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04-13-2016 , 07:48 AM
Twenty Seven #10 is a 1 euro but I think it is supposed to be a 2 euro according to the webpage. posted in main thread in case you don't catch it in time.
04-13-2016 , 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by broken_jia
Hi UnibetRep,

Is your software capable of spreading other games? Specifically, Omaha hi/lo is a game that is just as popular as PLO on Pokerstars. If this game was spread, players including myself would consider moving some of our action to Unibet.
Hi Andrew,

It doesn't look like you answered the above question. Another poster also made mention of NLO8/PLO8. Should this have been posted in the thread in the Internet Poker's thread?

Thanks in advance
04-13-2016 , 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by OldBurf
Twenty Seven #10 is a 1 euro but I think it is supposed to be a 2 euro according to the webpage. posted in main thread in case you don't catch it in time.
You are right, has been changed! Thanks

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Originally Posted by broken_jia
Hi Andrew,

It doesn't look like you answered the above question. Another poster also made mention of NLO8/PLO8. Should this have been posted in the thread in the Internet Poker's thread?

Thanks in advance
At the moment we don't have it because the demand is quite low, but the required dev time is high. We'd love to have it, which means we will whenever we see room for it.
04-13-2016 , 10:14 AM
Why is the development time high? For PLO8 it's only the showdown logic which needs to change from PLO.

Back in the 20th century when I was a programmer, we'd have knocked something like that off before lunch ...
04-13-2016 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by LektorAJ
Why is the development time high? For PLO8 it's only the showdown logic which needs to change from PLO.

Back in the 20th century when I was a programmer, we'd have knocked something like that off before lunch ...
I'd say dev time covers more than just logic outcome and the time spent before lunch and takes prioritization into consideration. Best to discuss non-mtt related things in the main thread btw, so we keep it in one place.
04-13-2016 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by UnibetRep
Thanks Chuck, we had a lot of positive feedback about the 27 series and we like to hear negative feedback as well.
Main thing is that you find the 27 not attractive and prefer leaderboards.We will keep this in mind for future MTT promotions.
I am not going to focus too much on other providers, but did you realize they removed their best daily running game for the series and had this €20 game you mentioned instead, which give players no other option than playing that game instead. For our 27 series we didn't remove, but only added games.

What exactly did Ongame not run during the Nyx series? I saw they didn't run the 20€/100 GTD but they ran all the biggest guarantees imo. If I missed something then my apologies but I played there every day and couldn't think of anything relevant missing in that price range (5r-50fo).

Anyway I'm sure you get good feedback, you're giving away 4000€ of free money, DUCY? It's just that there would be a million better ways to give away that money, including many ways in which the money is significantly more likely to come back to circulation instead of being withdrawn forever by some freeroll winner. Just because people are happy you're giving away free money doesn't mean you're doing things optimally.

An additional annoyance besides what I listed regarding the 27 thing is that people don't like to plan many weeks in advance. How on earth are recs (who typically have full time jobs, families, etc) supposed to know if they can even play the freeroll in 2-3 weeks time? This is basically a promotion where the additional prize is a complete joke in many ways, whereas 4000€ worth of promotional budget is enough money to create 1000 different promotions where the prizes would actually be attractive. (To both recs and regs)

If you don't like the leaderboard idea, cool. Even just boosting the guarantees of some tournaments until you run out of the 4000€ would be better. Or running a weekend-long mini festival with like 2 special tournaments a day. Literally anything is better than that.
04-14-2016 , 03:25 PM
Might be me but I think Twenty Seven #15 has been missed out of the schedule.
04-14-2016 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by OldBurf
Might be me but I think Twenty Seven #15 has been missed out of the schedule.
Think it was at wrong time, If you check all MTTS it was already complete
04-20-2016 , 05:08 AM
Hey guys,
I personally am really missing an exciting MTT on Friday. On Saturday we have the SaturdayStack (tho i would love to see the Guarantee set back to 5K if possible..) and on Sunday the Entitled which always has a decent number of runners due to the amount of sattelites.
As a dude with a normal job I cant play alot during weektime but love doing so on weekends. On Friday however there's not really a tourney with a decent payday on top. Like a 50€ 1-2K GTD or s.th.
Here my second idea comes into play. Back in the day playing on PartyPoker I always loved the shootout MTTs and I think alot of recs would as well. There you would always play a 9-handed table down to 3players and advance to the next round getting a small price already if you finish top3 and taking your chipstack to the next round. This was always a lot of fun even if you have to wait observing the other tables when blinds were high was usually quite entertaining. This was always a reason for me to keep some dough on PartyPoker as not many other sites offered this format. If you were to introduce it you could have like two daily sattys running (+LastChance) and provide tickets for that via missions so that people realize a new tourney has been introduced.

Just take it into consideration, any other decently exciting tourney on Fridays would be appreciated as well. Regards,
Till
04-20-2016 , 11:05 AM
^ +1 to an exciting Friday MTT

I think the shootout format would be great too. It might take a bit of development time though. 6 handed 2 get paid, or 9 handed 3 get paid before advancing sounds good. I think its better for recs than the winner advances shootouts.
04-20-2016 , 12:20 PM
Just a thought, though you need rebuys to make this happen:

Friday Fight Fest

4€ buy-in
Starting time around 21:00 CET
1000 chips, unlimited rebuys (1000 chips, no cap at chips), 1 Add-on, 10,000 chips.
15 levels rebuys, 3 min each. After that 5 min levels.

3000€ prize pool (having unlimited rebuys eliminates chance of major overlay).

Winner gets something special as extra (could be smaller Friday Surprise version of Winamax Sunday Surprise). Not sure if you're able to send stuff, but like a bottle of fine champagne or cuban cigars or something like that.
04-20-2016 , 01:19 PM
+1 to rebuys.

Seems like something that is really missing from the MTT schedule. Even if it's just re-entry to boost GTDs a little
04-22-2016 , 12:04 PM
(Moved from General Unibet Thread as requested by Andrew)

Can the Jackpot tourneys be moved to a different day or ran more? They run on the same day as the Butler league currently which is kind of the same promotion (with a much smaller prize pool) and there is nothing like that for the rest of the week. I'm guessing that the payout for the promotion isn't particularly high so added a few extra days wouldn't hurt.

Also the website promo for the Jackpot tourneys is a little confusing. I typed 'Unibet poker jackpot' in Google (UK) and got these as the 1st three hits:-

- UK Promo page with no mention of the Tourneys https://www.unibet.co.uk/promotions/poker-promotions
- EU Jackpot page with correct info https://www.unibet.eu/promotions/pok...ot-tournaments
- Old? UK page for Jackpot Tourneys with different buy-in and prizes https://www.unibet.co.uk/2.2095/mtt-...ments-1.368394

P.S. Ignore the post above, I didn't realise the client didn't do Rebuys.
04-22-2016 , 02:39 PM
Is there any way to incorporate UO packages into the Jackpot MTT's?
04-22-2016 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Sect7G
Is there any way to incorporate UO packages into the Jackpot MTT's?
Easiest would be make Monday Jackpot daily and instead of money prizes offer "Win both, get UO package" imo... FT both, get 250€ UO ticket.
04-22-2016 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
Easiest would be make Monday Jackpot daily and instead of money prizes offer "Win both, get UO package" imo... FT both, get 250€ UO ticket.
That would be sweet.
04-22-2016 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
Easiest would be make Monday Jackpot daily and instead of money prizes offer "Win both, get UO package" imo... FT both, get 250€ UO ticket.
Think would be better to give a quartet of UK packages for winning both as the top prize, with an alternative in the small print to change to a UO if Uk not suitable for the player.

FT paying 2x100UK 2x25UK.(UO as alternative)

This would help promote the UK tour, Think the UO is well known already and would be nice to see the UK tour get a boost.
04-23-2016 , 01:55 AM
I've been playing virtually every MTT with 10+ buyin on most days for a couple of months now and I've come to the conclusion that there are three things that are legitimately terrible on Unibet vs competitors. These are all equally bad to recs and regs, I have a longer list of less important stuff but you should really fix these asap.

1) Your software - it crashes, lags, graphics freeze, it takes 3x more CPU power than anyone else. I know many of the guys who work with the software and I hope they won't get mad at me for saying this, but really it sucks how you still have all these glitches. I've played on Unibet on 3 different super-performance computers regularly as well like 8 different internet connections (traveling) for a long period of time now and regardless of what my setup is the client crashes 5-10 times mid-session every single time. I have literally never made a final table where I haven't sat out hands because of this. The worst thing is that the way it always crashes is by the graphics freezing and if you're playing 20 tables it will take some time to notice that it's not some guy timebanking, it's actually frozen, you have to force close it and it takes another minute to fire it again because your client is the heaviest thing ever, and when you've logged in it takes another like 30 seconds before the tables actually pop up. Judging by the amount of people sitting out in every tournament this seems to happen to everyone but at different times.

2. Add antes to tournaments before the late levels ffs. The structures are as ridiculous as 2007 Entraction. It's not a big fix at all but I can tell you how your tournaments currently play: First however many levels until the starting stack is ~12BB: No antes. Everyone on Unibet is super loose, no one ever folds to anything, so any reg who has half a brain cell will play super tight as a result. This is NOT good for recreationals. It's literally optimal to play like 12% of hands. You want to make it optimal to play more speculative hands so that it will make the game more interesting for everyone and not a nitfest. Currently your antes kick in at 120/240, so when you still have 3k start stack you're in pushfold mode in the first ante hand. This is just bad, you promised to fix this 5 months ago. Put antes at least from 50/100 onwards or additionally just make every startstack 10k or something.

3) ...and just fix the structures overall. Your tournaments are too turboey to justify the rake. For avg minutes played/rake paid ("experience value" or whatever you wanna call it) Unibet is the worst site in the world. You charge huge rake when your regspeed tourneys are almost turbos, and your turbos would be called hyperturbos anywhere else. And the lack of antes makes this worse. In your 3k starting stack turbos the blinds go up so fast you fold like 15 hands (which you should unless you get good hands given that there are antes), then you shove allin with your remaining 10BB, GG. And the nonturbos have tons of pointless levels (no antes) and then they become a massive pushfold festival wayyy too early. Every ft average in every regspeed tournament is like 15BB. Just open any regspeed ft and look at the stacks and you should be instantly able to tell something is not right. I'm not sure what exactly it is, but you probably are just missing levels. I don't think this would take that much tweaking even, but if you are gonna keep charging that rake then at least give us something to play with. Calling these ridic shovefests regspeeds and turbos when they really are turbos and hyperturbos with that rake is almost a scam, you don't wanna end up like Pokerstars.

Also one that I almost included: Note taking / color coding. Just let us label people with a red green or yellow ball. Note taking would be super great. That's super standard stuff that recs like just as well. You promised to look into that in like November too, any updates?

Also I feel like your answer for pretty much everything is "that's not top priority right now" but I wonder what actually is top priority given that your software still lags and freezes 2 years into existence (or however long it's been). How expensive can it be to hire a few more people since it seems you lack resources wrt everything from fixing your software to fixing structures? I don't know how much money Unibet makes, but I'd imagine hiring a couple of guys for 3000/month should be a drop in a bucket. You should at the very least be able to fix these structures super easily, I just can't imagine it being hard to add a few levels to tournaments, and I don't understand how this has taken so long no matter how low priority it is to you.


Again I'm very supportive of your site and hope you get this together, there are 100000 positive things I could make a post about, not the least your great forum activity, but it's just so frustrating when none of this ever gets fixed and it's been so long.

Last edited by Chuck Bass; 04-23-2016 at 02:02 AM.
04-24-2016 , 08:57 AM
Has Unibet reps noticed this? http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...t-rep-1605493/

Some private Unibet Open sats, maybe?
04-25-2016 , 05:54 AM
Is there a set day for the Butler League table to be updated? As much as I enjoy seeing my name in lights it's two weeks old

Is there any possibility of adding a monthly or quarterly table as well?
04-25-2016 , 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuck Bass
I've been playing virtually every MTT with 10+ buyin on most days for a couple of months now and I've come to the conclusion that there are three things that are legitimately terrible on Unibet vs competitors. These are all equally bad to recs and regs, I have a longer list of less important stuff but you should really fix these asap.

1) Your software - it crashes, lags, graphics freeze, it takes 3x more CPU power than anyone else.
I'll leave the tourney specific stuff to Robin, as that's his now. But here're the patch notes for the release on Weds. It fixes two freezing problems.

Our software is always going to require faster machines than our rivals. That's because ours was written in 2014 and theirs were written in 2001. That's the reason for ours looking much better than theirs, and it's also why we can make frequent releases while they can't.

But most of the problems come from Adobe Air. It's a wrapper program that we use so that we only have one codebase over several platforms (PC, Mac, browser, iPad & Android). The problem is that it's buggy and it's slow. It's the case of most of the crashes and a lot of the CPU requirement. We have a long term project to fix this, but we're talking months rather than weeks.

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Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
Has Unibet reps noticed this? http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...t-rep-1605493/

Some private Unibet Open sats, maybe?
Yeh, I saw it, but I already do stuff like this and that thread feels too much like buying your child's love or something. It's too desperate.
04-25-2016 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by UnibetAndrew
Yeh, I saw it, but I already do stuff like this and that thread feels too much like buying your child's love or something. It's too desperate.
True dat, but community tournaments are great way to promote forum spirit.

At least if you're planning some new special tournaments you could try them by making a private tournament for 2+2's and gather feedback. Win-win
04-26-2016 , 02:38 AM
can i download unibet and look at the cash game/tournament/sng without signing up an account?
04-28-2016 , 05:33 PM
Does Unitbet track mtts on sharkscope?
Also wondering if they accept Canadians?
Thanks for the help
04-28-2016 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by rodgethat
Does Unitbet track mtts on sharkscope?
Also wondering if they accept Canadians?
Thanks for the help
They really can't track players because you use an alias that you can change up to 5 times a day.
They do accept Canadians as I've been on the site for 9 months.

In general this is a good site. I say this because they are trying to grow and have been successful since they branched out as a standalone site. They are not looking to pinch players at every turn. If MTT's are all that you're looking for then you might be disappointed in the guarantees but Rome wasn't built in a day and MTT's are growing.

Cash games are in abundance 18 hours a day and same goes for SNG's. There are plenty of MTT's with low buyins but the guarantees range from $50 to $1500 throughout the week. On the weekend they have a 5k and a 4k guarantee. The latter you have to satellite into it to take part.

The promo's are where Unibet shines. Next month you get an extra 40 euros plus just for playing 5 days a week and see 10 flops. Basically free money. Best of luck with the site and if you have any questions Andrew, the site rep, responds to all questions in the main thread over in the internet forum.

      
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