Thought I'd start an MTT thread for Unibet as they've just updated the MTT lobby and a new schedule is going to be announced next month.

Please post anything MTT related here and Andrew (the site rep) on 2+2 will be able to answer your questions/suggestions. If you haven't played on Unibet please refer to the Unibet thread in the Internet Poker section of 2+2.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...hread-1452899/

Things I like are:

The weekly low stakes Jackpot tourneys (no extra rake) that give low stakes players a chance at a big prize. 1k for finishing in the top 3 in both tourneys and 5k for winning both.

The butler league which is a one day leaderboard with the 3 tourneys streamed on Twitch with a Unibet rep. Nice way to chat with players.

Unibet Open Live MTT satellites which run similar to a steps program and have great structures the higher the buy in.

The flexibility of players to convert MTT tickets to lower buy in tickets or merge them into a higher buy in.

Things to improve on:

Higher guarantees.
Rake isn't scaled down for the higher buy in MTT's.

Hey,

Just a couple points for now.

- Should try to build an offpeak traffic by offering more speedy games. (i.e. Deep Crazies, Speeds)
- The filter system needs flipping or changing in some way atleast. The current way is that you have everything shown by default, then you click a type and only that "Type" pops up. IMO it should be made so that default has all the "Types" are turned on, then if you click one it will remove that type from the list.

For example if I want to exclude UO stuff I just select UO off the filters. You could then extend the filter system to have some saved presets once more games are introduced in the future.



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Anywhere I can get info on the new schedule?

Thought unibet was dead.

Dat microgaming network in the past tho

Might not be a bad idea afterall to start a thread here Sect7G, might reach some more people here that never come in the internet poker section.

Previous post proves it and sure (Unibet-)Andrew will have a decent information post/answer. Unibet is far from dead and not related to the microgaming network anymore.

For additional info, unibet internet poker thread:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...hread-1452899/

Gl with the mtt's

how many mtts above 100$ they got per week? whats their gtd?

Unibet only has a 100euro Saturday Stack which is 5k guaranteed. There was a reason for this I remember Unibet Andrew write about it but it was months ago now. Somewhere along the lines of trying to stop people just coming in and winning the MTT then taking the winnings away I think (I could be wrong though).

Most MTTs are small field (25-250 players), which imo are better anyway but to make up for that I do think there should be a few more higher buyin games(risky to meet guarantees though if there isn't enough liquidity).

There is currently only 3 different 25euro tourneys and 1x50euro tourney daily (not including Unibet Open stuff).

With the new upcoming schedule and the MTT promos next month hopefully it should improve things .

who's in antwerp atm and going to the welcome drinks? anyone at the lindner hotel as we speak?

if you would add earlier antes (start at 50-100) to your satelites for Unibet Open I think more people would try to qualify via online.

Shouldn't this be titled "Unofficial Unibet MTT players" thread if it's not one that Unibet are paying for?

Current draft for what'll go up on Monday. UO isn't added yet but should be soon:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...3Kuc1Aja6vTsa4

I don't know how 2 + 2 want it.

What's the motivation behind having a 90eu price point? Do like the guarantee on it though.
I get that it forces people to sat into it... but if someone has 90eu and wants to spend it... shouldn't he be able to?

I'm not sure what the 2 + 2 rules are on this kind of thread, but I'll deal with it as I do the main one unless told otherwise.

Edit: Sounds like a few tournaments are missing from the schedule I posted above, including the Saturday Stack. They're the ones that run once per week. Robin will updated shortly.

I think this is mostly due to our scale. PS are probably more than 100x our size in MTT, so we aren't going to be competing on that any time soon. We tried doing "build it and they will come" with high(er) guarantees when we launched, and all it did was lose us money for several months in a row without improvement.

I'm fine if this is up for debate, but I prefer raking a similar amount in percentage terms across every stake. That's the approach we have in cash games, it's just more visible in MTT.

Hopefully 2 + 2 let us post here as I do in the normal thread, as then I can ask Robin to reply to this kind of post. He's on my team and is in charge of the schedule now. I prefer to let him have final say on as much of this as possible.

We're going to change the filter system a bit by having it remember if you want to see closed reg tournaments or not. We don't plan any other changes after that yet, but mostly just because I want people to get used to what we have for a couple of weeks first.

For those of you who aren't already Unibet regs, the new tourney lobbies came in on Mon 23rd.

This is what'll be up from Monday: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...Kuc1Aja6vTsa4/

Nope. We're standalone. By peak traffic we're a similar size to the whole of MPN now, but our traffic is more concentrated around European peak hours than theirs. On the other hand, we're growing faster than they are (and they're having a good time right now, looks like +25% or so in the past year, that's more than anyone except us can say as far as I'm aware).

None except for two Unibet Open satellites. The "big" Sunday tournament is going to be a €90 "buyin" that you can only enter by satellite.

Our aim isn't to attract the Sunday grinders, our aim is to keep new players alive for longer. I'm not that interested in players who come over for a handful of tournaments, probably win a lot, and probably withdraw when they do. That's not much good for our site or our players.

MTT revenue is up about 40% in the past three months, and hopefully new lobbies, promo + new schedule will improve it more. But we are never going to be competing with PS on tourney scale. Instead I think of it more about us having tournaments you can actually win, and tournaments you can finish in a few hours instead of a day.

For what reason?

Right now, all of our tournaments have the same blind structure. We vary level times and starting stacks. This is because I want to keep things as simple as possible for casual players, which is the philosophy that underlies most of the site.

It just comes from satellite ratios and feedback from things like the Norwegian Championship. I'm not wed to it if anyone particularly prefers something else.

This stops people who come and play once per week on our site. They're worth nothing to us and make it harder for us to do MTT promos etc. It also means that casual players have a much better shot at actually winning something.

I would love to add Unibet to my routine but the table takes half my screen and I can't find a way to make it like every other site I play on. I see how that is great for keeping winning players away though.

Sounds good, I hate the ridiculous 3 hour late reg and 9+ hour MTTs with 2000+ players.

Game 107 in the spreadsheet you can buyin for 50k stack? :O

I think the name for game 88 should be switched for game 52.

Can you make Deep Crazy Bounties? If so I think game 89 would be good to switch out for 10euro Deep Crazy Bounty. There is already a 4 bounty that start exactly same time with same structure and I think that tournament at that time could have potential to build to a big guarantee in future.

Schedule looking good though, good mixture of stuff and I am more interested in playing the Sunday Entitled than the Saturday stack because of the better satellite system.

More tournaments, I'd say. Still waiting for rebuys, they'd be great way to make medium-sized guaranteeds with little risk (like daily 10+r for 3k€ is a no-brainer easy). Rake is too high as well as it's still at same rate and in some tournaments even higher than in French sites which actually pay more license fees and additional taxes.

Many sites which are in par with Unibet has about five times larger guaranteeds daily (like MPN which has devolved otherwise thrives with MTTs). With those around, they would also bring people to play other tournaments. Rebuy satellites would be easy way to get some recs to 25€-250€ tournaments you already have.

I'm not going to post much in this thread over the weekend, but the schedule is a bit more updated now. It's missing non-UO satellites.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...Kuc1Aja6vTsa4/

Since you updated the spreadsheet.
Referring to the 23:15 speed holdem.
Referring to the 20:00 early 4 bounty name being switched with four bounty at 16:00.
Referring to the Ten Bounty at 20:00.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=0&vpid=A2 has every global tournament on now I think.

+1

Before Unibet I was a reg-speed MTTSNG player, with those you get done in about 2 hours, so the smaller MTTs on Unibet ought to be right up my street, but I open them up and you see they still have an hour of late registration to go, by which time the starting stack will be less than 10 BBs, after which I just load a SNG or cash game.

It's not just the unibet open qualifiers then. I really don't understand why ante's come in to play that late on unibet. I've never heard anyone say that they enjoy playing tournament poker without ante's. It makes everyone play really really tight wich makes for a less enjoyable playing experience. You don't have to change the structures just add ante's to the early levels. Big ante's and ante's from level 2 like the live unibet open events is a lot more fun.

Pretty good promo for the month. I think any player that plays 20 mtts is going to get a prize.

https://www.unibet.co.uk/promotions/...-mtt-leagues-3

Otherwise sweet, but I hate tournaments that are deepstack. I want action, not meditation

Might play some of the others anyways. Hard to get decent prizes by just playing turbo / bounty ones

I think you should strongly consider lowering rake at the 1min tournament structures. Your sngs have a very reasonable 5% rake, any structure in mtts that's faster (in this case, a LOT faster) should have 5% or less imo. Just slapping 11% rake on every mtt is not going to do you any favors. The current rake for deepstacks, just under 10% for normal structures, somewhere between 6-7.5% for turbo's and about 2% for hypers would be a lot healthier.

Promo looks fun though, may splash around a bit