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05-17-2016 , 02:01 PM


Please put the buyin in front of the tournament title. Except for the starting stacks there is no way for me to know which one is the $109 and which one is the $530.
05-18-2016 , 06:11 AM
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05-18-2016 , 09:31 AM
$8000 package for a $2750 seat lol. #JOKE


The hotel is $600/night or what?

Last edited by gettym; 05-18-2016 at 09:36 AM.
05-19-2016 , 04:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gettym
$8000 package for a $2750 seat lol. #JOKE


The hotel is $600/night or what?
1 x buy-in
2 x return flights
Hotel for 7 nights - all inclusive
Player party and off the felt daily activities
05-19-2016 , 09:33 AM
Hi all

We have made some changes to our rebuy offerings following recent feedback

Non-Turbos Rebuys:
Blinds remain the same: 12 minutes
However - late registration has been reduced from 12 levels to 7 levels
The overall Rebuy period has also been reduced from 12 levels to 9 levels

Turbo Rebuys:
Again - blinds remain the same: 8 minutes
Late registration has been reduced from 12 levels to 7 levels
The Rebuy period has been reduced from 12 levels to 9 levels


We hope these changes provide an improved structure for our rebuy tournaments

As always your feedback is welcome

Thanks

Colette
05-19-2016 , 09:48 AM
-so you make a good change (bigger prize pools) by aligning the rebuy and late reg period.
-then you make an even better change reducing the rebuy period to 9 levels
- then you go and mess it all up again by separating the rebuy period and late reg period.

participation is going to go down hugely again thanks to that change alone.
05-19-2016 , 10:03 AM
Aligning the rebuy period and late reg period just makes it easy to get in for 2 bullets with way higher roi than gambling it up. I would always do that myself if the option was there so its better for me, clearly not better for the ecosystem or the prizepools.

Seems like a good change overall.
05-19-2016 , 10:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Party_Rep
** partypoker Returns To The Caribbean > Caribbean Poker Party 19th- 26th November **

Qualifiers for the partypoker Million start this coming Sunday - 22nd May
Up for grabs are packages worth $8,000 - these include two return flights and all-inclusive accommodation, one $2,750 buy-in for the partypoker Million plus a host of off the felt activities to make it an unforgettable trip to the Caribbean.

For all the info - check out the website >

https://www.partypoker.com/caribbean-poker-party.html

Good luck!
Colette

The satellites dont show up in the lobby. Under CPT filter, 0 tournaments so far.
05-19-2016 , 12:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Party_Rep
Hi all

We have made some changes to our rebuy offerings following recent feedback

Non-Turbos Rebuys:
Blinds remain the same: 12 minutes
However - late registration has been reduced from 12 levels to 7 levels
The overall Rebuy period has also been reduced from 12 levels to 9 levels

Turbo Rebuys:
Again - blinds remain the same: 8 minutes
Late registration has been reduced from 12 levels to 7 levels
The Rebuy period has been reduced from 12 levels to 9 levels


We hope these changes provide an improved structure for our rebuy tournaments

As always your feedback is welcome

Thanks

Colette
Only in Party. You make one successful and good change and then revert it back to overlaying crapshoot. After most people thanked for the change and few players complained (who don't even play them but just want to kill rebuys).

My participation rate with 5-22$ rebuys just collapsed from 100% to 0%. And I know many other players as well who will do that. After I have used my tickets I probably make a final cashout, as satellites lost their interest as well with recent change.
05-19-2016 , 12:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by U shove i call
Aligning the rebuy period and late reg period just makes it easy to get in for 2 bullets with way higher roi than gambling it up. I would always do that myself if the option was there so its better for me, clearly not better for the ecosystem or the prizepools.

Seems like a good change overall.

Exactly.

Will numbers go down? Sure they will. But it won't be recreational players who stop playing. It will be pro's that only play the rebuy format due to a larger ROI based on the format with the add-on and not by edges due to their play.
05-19-2016 , 12:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Party_Rep
Hi all

We have made some changes to our rebuy offerings following recent feedback

Non-Turbos Rebuys:
Blinds remain the same: 12 minutes
However - late registration has been reduced from 12 levels to 7 levels
The overall Rebu6y period has also been reduced from 12 levels to 9 levels

Turbo Rebuys:
Again - blinds remain the same: 8 minutes
Late registration has been reduced from 12 levels to 7 levels
The Rebuy period has been reduced from 12 levels to 9 levels


We hope these changes provide an improved structure for our rebuy tournaments

As always your feedback is welcome

Thanks

Colette
Very happy about this!

Thanks Colette!
05-19-2016 , 12:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Party_Rep
1 x buy-in
2 x return flights
Hotel for 7 nights - all inclusive
Player party and off the felt daily activities
Curious about return flights? Is Party giving us money in our accounts as in a set amount or are you really paying for flights on a person to person basis? The latter would be strange.

Where can I get info about how much it would cost for kids to come along as well.
05-19-2016 , 12:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
Only in Party. You make one successful and good change and then revert it back to overlaying crapshoot. After most people thanked for the change and few players complained (who don't even play them but just want to kill rebuys).

My participation rate with 5-22$ rebuys just collapsed from 100% to 0%. And I know many other players as well who will do that. After I have used my tickets I probably make a final cashout, as satellites lost their interest as well with recent change.
Totally agree with that
05-19-2016 , 01:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sect7G
Exactly.

Will numbers go down? Sure they will.
thats all that needs to be said. look at how many people enter in the final minute of rebuy period of rebuy tournaments on all sites, its sometimes as high as 30% of the field (im in the group) there are plenty of 1 bullet recs, 2 and 3 bullet pros. you are killing the field size with no upside.

-making this change does not force a 1 bullet rec to to cave in, it kills their participation and their dream of getting a huge return on their buyin (this is essential to the rebuy format since the inception of online poker)

-it doesnt force me to gamble it up either as i simply fill that tile slot on my screen with a tournament on another site.
05-19-2016 , 01:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by U shove i call
clearly not better for the ecosystem or the prizepools.
expand on this statement you just made up, because it makes no sense at all.
05-19-2016 , 02:17 PM
just open raised 15k at bb600 cause i wanted to make 1.5k but the softer doesnt let me click in a 2.5x btn or even let me use the bar to increase by small blind instead big...

I know its my fault, but i'd never make that mistake if the softer was better, and it creates a bad experience
05-19-2016 , 03:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Party_Rep
Hi all

We have made some changes to our rebuy offerings following recent feedback

Non-Turbos Rebuys:
Blinds remain the same: 12 minutes
However - late registration has been reduced from 12 levels to 7 levels
The overall Rebuy period has also been reduced from 12 levels to 9 levels

Turbo Rebuys:
Again - blinds remain the same: 8 minutes
Late registration has been reduced from 12 levels to 7 levels
The Rebuy period has been reduced from 12 levels to 9 levels


We hope these changes provide an improved structure for our rebuy tournaments

As always your feedback is welcome

Thanks

Colette
I don't like this. This structure forces stalling, which nobody likes. Also without lateregging these are a lot slower on average making them:

-unexciting because low guarantee
-low value because slow play and small field
05-19-2016 , 03:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by coinflipper
thats all that needs to be said. look at how many people enter in the final minute of rebuy period of rebuy tournaments on all sites, its sometimes as high as 30% of the field (im in the group) there are plenty of 1 bullet recs, 2 and 3 bullet pros. you are killing the field size with no upside.

-making this change does not force a 1 bullet rec to to cave in, it kills their participation and their dream of getting a huge return on their buyin (this is essential to the rebuy format since the inception of online poker)

-it doesnt force me to gamble it up either as i simply fill that tile slot on my screen with a tournament on another site.
Why do you do this? The answer is also why they changed their policy.
05-19-2016 , 04:33 PM
Because he wants to play a 5% rake freezeout where a bunch of other people added bonus money to the prizepool. We all know this. No reason to leave it an open question.
05-19-2016 , 04:53 PM
the only way to fix this is to have the rebuy period determined by # of hands

or at least the post registration period should have a set # of hands, or a time to finish by (whichever comes last)

without that, you will always have single bullet-late reg-stallers, who in actual fact, do not really want to play rebuy mtts. they just want to nit it up during the rebuy period and exploit the system.
05-19-2016 , 08:21 PM
Hi,

I'm playing a scheduled $22 sat to a 215 main event ticket and its on the bubble but not hand for hand. Please fix this in the future.
05-19-2016 , 09:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DoGGz
Because he wants to play a 5% rake freezeout where a bunch of other people added bonus money to the prizepool. We all know this. No reason to leave it an open question.
i prefer a standardized investment in said tournaments day in and day out with no variation, and low rake. nothing about staggering benefits the recs, pros or party, everyone loses. you've got 10 regs who thinks its good because it prevents people like me from gaining an imaginary advantage, so well done. shoot yourself in the foot and force a smaller prize pool that will eventually dwindle to nothing

or maybe ive missed something, has the meta changed and the deepest pocketed regs playing the most hands (from start) no longer have the biggest advantage?

its also really weird that you make that statement as if its a bad thing, its what rebuys are all about. people like DN dropping a bazzilion rebuys in the wsop 1kr, and jo schmo truck driver giving it a shot on 1-2k for a massive roi thanks to his donations. or elky and anette shipping blind every hand for an hour in the 100r, then andres from venezuela seeing the prize pool blowup and take a shot. why would you EVER be in favor of eliminating ANY participation at all is just headasplode

Last edited by coinflipper; 05-19-2016 at 09:39 PM.
05-20-2016 , 12:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paklu
I don't like this. This structure forces stalling, which nobody likes. Also without lateregging these are a lot slower on average making them:

-unexciting because low guarantee
-low value because slow play and small field
+1
05-20-2016 , 05:26 AM
Well played Party. As anyone has been telling you, you just destroyed your rebuys. Overlay is clear sign that people don't want these ridiculous 7 / 9 levels rebuys. Yesterday 18:00 (EET) rebuys just barely got their guaranteeds filled, 21:00 overlayed very much and 23:00 one got overlay and another got barely over its guaranteed.

Why are you still throwing money to the garbage? 12 levels latereg / rebuy-time structure was awesome and just killing it,saw only once overlay (very small one) but you seem to try to get rebuys killed.
05-20-2016 , 09:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelvin Kerber
just open raised 15k at bb600 cause i wanted to make 1.5k but the softer doesnt let me click in a 2.5x btn or even let me use the bar to increase by small blind instead big...

I know its my fault, but i'd never make that mistake if the softer was better, and it creates a bad experience
happens once every session

      
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