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Old 05-04-2015, 06:38 PM   #76
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

to my surprise, it still got 39 entries, imagine if it was on a really good day and some better sats.

the payouts are bs tho

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Old 05-04-2015, 07:21 PM   #77
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

37k prizepool 39 players let's look at better options than today's payout structure which you def need to implement next week. Nobody wants to have online pokers biggest tournament bubble on Mondays in a 40 player sng

1) flat payouts:

14.8k
9.5k
6.3k
4.1k
2.3k

2) yolo payouts

17.2k
9.8k
5.6k
2.8k
1.6k

Think the majority of players (ie minus the four or five monsters that are winning the most) would prefer either of those structures. There rly is no need to make the bubble of this mtt bigger than the bubbles will be in 2.1k SCOOP events on stars. I personally prefer a mincash to be 2x the buyin esp at high stakes but I m sure 1.6x would be a dedent compromise
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Old 05-04-2015, 07:22 PM   #78
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+10000000
without qualifiers this is not gonna work!

Make at least two main qualifiers close to prime time to attract the recreational players, e.g. 18:30 CET, 109$ satty to 1k, guarantee 2 seats, reevaluate in case there is overlay, make at least 1 hour latereg so it will attract more players, start another 109$ turbo satty around 20:00 CET and guarantee 2 seats as well.
Reevaluate after 2-3 weeks, possibly run a 20$ Rebuy satty on some other days for the 1k, and start having one afternoon satty ~16:30 with 1 seat gtd make it 50$ reentry or 20$ rebuy
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This guy understands how to get more runners into a 1k.

Ahh but you're forgetting the $5 dollar sats to the $109's that fill the 1k.
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Old 05-04-2015, 08:47 PM   #79
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This guy understands how to get more runners into a 1k.

Ahh but you're forgetting the $5 dollar sats to the $109's that fill the 1k.
Haha in case your being sarcasted, I think the playerpool is small, they will never guarantee 10 seats or something in a satellite


Played the 1k HR today and won it for good measurements #flex#joppa

Still have a few things to note:

- I lateregged late on the phone and would like to say the app is really good. Its even better than you desktop software if you add a total pot feature and make it possible to enter exact bet amounts (btw i love the betting slider). Why dont the players blurr in the desktop version when they fold? thats a very good feature for visibility and would help A TON !!! The app is definitely among the best out there if you fix these two problems, the tournament lobby with different info tabs is by far the best system, i really like the quick settings as well! Also you need to fix the bet sliders in the app and in the desktop version, who needs a 4BB and 8BB raise button ?????

- The payout structure is not good as mentioned above. 4,8 buyins mincash is way too much. I prefer paying out one more seat at least and make the other payouts steeper (lol @ the payjump from 5 to 4). Its also better for the recreational players when more players cash. If you dont want to increase paid players make the payout steeper,~ 3k mincash up to 14k for first. I like blakkman08's first payout structure suggestion!

- The structure was really fine in early and midstage however the FT got really crappy. 5 and 4 handed the avg was like 23-24BB. possibly add one or two levels in latestage and remove them in early. would makes this tourney a lot better to play and i guess HR's are supposed to have good structures!

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Old 05-04-2015, 10:07 PM   #80
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

Basically kranke's last remark applies to every tournament and is something which should be looked into asap. No one cares when they are a gazillion bb deep in 10/20, but a lot of people care when stacks get really shallow when it matters the most (endgame ofcourse)

While I am at it, if you bring back the 50r, could you please consider having 15 min levels starting from blinds 500/1k or something in that neigbourhood. That tournament used to be so good, but became - here i am again - a pretty big crapshoot in the end whith the avg stack hovering around max 20 bigs.
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Old 05-05-2015, 02:49 AM   #81
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

+1 to adjusting the structures. I usually don't even login to party on non-sundays till around 21:00 CET because I can easily late reg most interesting timbeys around that time when I have enough table space. First few levels are incredibly boring and not worth playing.
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Old 05-05-2015, 06:41 AM   #82
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

Kranke,

Congrats on the win and I certainly wasn't being sarcastic. The satellites that u suggested are what Party needs if they want that tourney to grow.
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Old 05-05-2015, 08:57 AM   #83
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

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Kranke,

Congrats on the win and I certainly wasn't being sarcastic. The satellites that u suggested are what Party needs if they want that tourney to grow.
THanks , and I am absolutely on your page, the satellites need to kick in asap!
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Old 05-05-2015, 09:16 AM   #84
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******Hot topics for week 2****
- Highroller MTT's :
1)-1k on Sunday with 100k?
2)- 500$ On tuesday 40k?
3)- 500$ SuperKO on Thursday 40k?
4) -350$ ones on Mo-Wd-Fr-Sat?

-100$ 10k/15k 1RE?`who wants to see this one? timespot : same time as B109 19:00CET ? other opinions?

-Majors on Sunday:
1) Structure too deep at the beginning?
2) Structure too shallow in the end?
3) 2day-Majors for 200$/500$(or1k)? after 7h for the 200$ 6h for the 500$?

-Structures:
1) fewer levels in early, more levels in late?
2) maybe after 500/100 increase minutes of level duration?

added the structure topic
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Old 05-05-2015, 11:24 AM   #85
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

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added the structure topic

Thanks Schmette

I will feedback on Week1 topics tomorrow and send Week2 Hot Topics for review.

Kind regards,

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Old 05-05-2015, 12:29 PM   #86
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

good job on adding back the 50r and having earlier antes but 3k+3k+6k addon might be a bit too much
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Old 05-05-2015, 12:32 PM   #87
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good job on adding back the 50r and having earlier antes but 3k+3k+6k addon might be a bit too much
its only back cause its tuesday, its prob still the same 100 RE on other weekdays
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Old 05-06-2015, 11:37 AM   #88
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

Hi all

Some feedback from our poker team -

**Hot Topics**

- 50r- 25k needs to comeback daily - - Its back on Tuesdays. We feel the $100 FO is a better offering for the daily headline MTT

- earlier Ante from latest 50/100 +10 - This is still in discussion however we have added an early ante structure to the current 200K event and have taken some recent feedback into consideration.

- Sunday Majors take to much time, maybe #2 day Major? - We will not implement a 2 day structure for our Sunday Majors – this has been discussed and is not an option.

- new MTT-Shed, with 10r 10k 20r 10k (new structures) - We have no planned changes at this time though this may change in the near future.

- 100 10k needs a comeback - This is now the $25k, $100

- less reentry tournaments - Feedback noted, but again we have no current plans to change the current schedule however we plan to provide options for all our players and will try and ensure a balance with re-entry options and FO, rebuy etc…


Our new high roller event has gone well in week 1. We do not currently plan to offer satellite options to this event however we will review and may reconsider in the future.
As stated before, CS issues and software issues are best addressed on the other thread under Internet Poker

Kind regards,

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Old 05-06-2015, 11:57 AM   #89
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

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Hi all

Some feedback from our poker team -

**Hot Topics**

- 50r- 25k needs to comeback daily - - Its back on Tuesdays. We feel the $100 FO is a better offering for the daily headline MTT

- earlier Ante from latest 50/100 +10 - This is still in discussion however we have added an early ante structure to the current 200K event and have taken some recent feedback into consideration.

- Sunday Majors take to much time, maybe #2 day Major? - We will not implement a 2 day structure for our Sunday Majors – this has been discussed and is not an option.

- new MTT-Shed, with 10r 10k 20r 10k (new structures) - We have no planned changes at this time though this may change in the near future.

- 100 10k needs a comeback - This is now the $25k, $100

- less reentry tournaments - Feedback noted, but again we have no current plans to change the current schedule however we plan to provide options for all our players and will try and ensure a balance with re-entry options and FO, rebuy etc…


Our new high roller event has gone well in week 1. We do not currently plan to offer satellite options to this event however we will review and may reconsider in the future.
As stated before, CS issues and software issues are best addressed on the other thread under Internet Poker

Kind regards,

Colette
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I have no reason to really open your client at the moment

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Old 05-06-2015, 12:08 PM   #90
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

Why can't you run both 50r and 100fo on the same day? Do you guys really don't understand anything? Basically you said no to all the suggestions, and are clearly not having the slightest intention to change anything, if it wasn't for your crappy decisions.

Oh well, we gave it a shot. Take a look at the 888 thread, and see how rapidly that site is growing because it actually listens to their customers.

What a dissapointment...
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Old 05-06-2015, 04:26 PM   #91
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

Not really a suprise though, party has had the worst software and costumersupport for years. I don't even get why adding earlier ante's needs to be discussed in the first place, let alone for more than a week. I challenge you to find one mtt players that likes to play no-antelevels more than antelevels. I get that not every idea mentioned here can get implemented but there is so much wrong that can get fixes pretty easy and it just looks like you guys aren't even trying.
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Old 05-06-2015, 06:22 PM   #92
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

lol wow that response...

and those payouts in the 1k... eww



the daily 50r used to be the only reason i would open up the party client in primetime, and then i would fire other MTTs when i busted it. now that theres a bunch of re-entry MTTs I don't even bother with it.
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Old 05-06-2015, 07:00 PM   #93
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

I just don't understand. You make a new 1k, you put it on one of the least popular days, and most strangely of all, you decided you don't want to have satellites. How on earth can that be a good idea?

There used to be a really nice 20r starting peak euro time. You got rid of it, I have no idea why and there is nothing to replace it.

Also if the 25k 100 re-entry is replacing the 100 (10k gtd) then what is replacing the 50r, or have you just axed it for no reason?
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Old 05-06-2015, 08:36 PM   #94
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

Thanks Colette for your response.
If your MTT-Team will like it or not, they are just wrong keeping the 100 FO 25k.
Except Pokerstars and Pokerstars.fr there is not a sigle Site which can offer a big 100$ game. I have no clue why your Team wants to keep this MTT, esp while its producing overlay every day. The only days where it prob has no overlay is on Tuesdays and Thursdays, on Tuesdays you brought back the 50r which is a joke at all, cause it would be one day where the 100 wouldnt create overlay?!

Ealier Ante is a trend which some sites figuered out, every players likes to have ante from the first hand.

2day-major: its okay to not have a 2day-Major, the structure is still bad as hell. Beginning is way too deep and in the end its to shallow + its taking way too long for recs from europe. Europe should be the biggest market for you. Make it 5k starting again and cut out some early levels and install some levels in the end or increase minutes. Everything else is just bs.

Your highroller worked fine, but you should create an environment whre its working for a longer period.
Satelites are not working for this game, but the day is just a bad one for this game. Make it tuesdays and all sickos would play it regardless if theres no rec in it.

Its dissapointing to all of us that your teams seems to give a **** about the customers.
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Old 05-06-2015, 10:13 PM   #95
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wp party make a thread say your going to do everything do nothing and make changes for the worse lol

sure you arent run by politicians?
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Old 05-07-2015, 12:44 AM   #96
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Yeah lol hf paying out overlays, when is the last time the sunday major hit it's grtd?
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Old 05-07-2015, 01:33 AM   #97
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wp party make a thread say your going to do everything do nothing and make changes for the worse lol

sure you arent run by politicians?
Not sure who runs Party but it's clear they have no clue about poker. I'm not a MTT players but was just following this thread with interest. Sadly, it seems Party is following the same pattern (with their decisions on the cash game side and everything else) of asking for feedback and then ignoring most of it and telling they know better.

Good example was when people were complaining about seating scripts, their solution was to remove the player info for tables in the lobby... which has nothing to do with seating scripts and doesn't even prevent table scanners from getting the info from some back process.

Like I already said, I'm not a MTT player but even I know about Stars' tuesday big tournaments. WHY ON EARTH would you not put yours to start the same time? Do you really think you can somehow compete with Stars with this? You already have people playing huge volume of tournaments on sundays and then you think they will rather play the high roller tournament on a monday when most sites run their big ones on tuesdays.

Regarding satellites, I'm guessing they think that if they run satellites, then people (even regs) would try to win their seats cheap and wouldn't buy-in direct. I'm not saying they are right (judging by the feedback from this thread they aren't, surprisingly) but I'm just guessing what they are thinking. As a SSNL cash game player I'd never play $500-1000 buy-in MTTs buying in directly but if there was a a decent satellite to it, I'd at least consider it
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Old 05-07-2015, 03:17 AM   #98
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

Satties= more rake

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Old 05-07-2015, 05:39 AM   #99
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if they sattelite in they pay the rake on 1k buy in + satty game rake party are just retarded whos gonna risk 1k for 10 buy ins in prob the toughest field ever so dumb rip party
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Old 05-07-2015, 08:52 AM   #100
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wow, not a single idea will be implemented.

gg party
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