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Old 11-13-2017, 10:18 AM   #6001
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

Hey, just out of curiosity.

When should the Uppercut ideally finish?
It starts @ 20:00 CET.

1)[ ] 2CET 6h of play
2)[ ] 3CET 7h of play
3)[ ] 4CET 8h ..
4)[ ] 5CET 9h ..
5)[ ] 6CET 10h...
6)[ ] 7CET 11h...


General Questions:
What do you think about Games length in general ?

1) 530$ Games reg speed
->[ ] take to long
->[ ] long long enough
->[ ] just perfect

2) 530$ Games turbos
->[ ] take to long
->[ ] long long enough
->[ ] just perfect

3) 215/109$ Games reg speed
->[ ] take to long
->[ ] long long enough
->[ ] just perfect

4) 215/109$ Games turbos
->[ ] take to long
->[ ] long long enough
->[ ] just perfect

5) 55$ Games reg speed
->[ ] take to long
->[ ] long long enough
->[ ] just perfect

6) 55$ Games turbos
->[ ] take to long
->[ ] long long enough
->[ ] just perfect

7) 22$ Games reg speed
->[ ] take to long
->[ ] long long enough
->[ ] just perfect

8) 22$ Games turbos
->[ ] take to long
->[ ] long long enough
->[ ] just perfect

9) 11 and below$ Games reg speed
->[ ] take to long
->[ ] long long enough
->[ ] just perfect

10) 11 and below$ Games turbos
->[ ] take to long
->[ ] long long enough
->[ ] just perfect
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Old 11-13-2017, 11:51 AM   #6002
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

New schedule is amazing, ty!

Adding micro stakes games increases the player pool and participation rates in low-mid games grow as well. Good job naming and bolding most games during peak in the otherwise cluttered lobby.

Please consider branding a flagship early off-peak MTTs for daytime Europe - perhaps just naming some of the existing games and making them must play.
Instead of having 3-4 22$ 2k gtd make one of them 5k daily 6 max special or w/e.
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Old 11-13-2017, 12:22 PM   #6003
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

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Originally Posted by schmette View Post
Hey, just out of curiosity.

When should the Uppercut ideally finish?
It starts @ 20:00 CET.

1)[ ] 2CET 6h of play
2)[ ] 3CET 7h of play
3)[ ] 4CET 8h ..
4)[*] 5CET 9h ..
5)[ ] 6CET 10h...
6)[ ] 7CET 11h...
I personally don't think any tournaments should take more than 10 hours total (I guess that's 9 hours of 'play'), unless there's a million dollar prizepool. Then at least it should be final table after 10 hours total. And mid-stakes should be 8 hours total. Although recently all tournaments are too quick for me, but that's for a different reason

You really need to reduce the level of late reg when there are re-entries though, it can be very annoying for people who could only afford to enter once...
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Old 11-13-2017, 12:26 PM   #6004
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New schedule is amazing, ty!
Please consider branding a flagship early off-peak MTTs for daytime Europe - perhaps just naming some of the existing games and making them must play.
You could call it the Sunday Spar, start it at 3pm CET and make it a $25 buy-in so it stands out from the others
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Old 11-13-2017, 01:44 PM   #6005
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

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Why did you increase the rake, then ?
The rake on the 5k really needs to be addressed. I don't know how party can justify HIGHER rake in a 5k (6%) than their 1ks (5%); esp. when the 5k has 3 day 1s plus re-entries.
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Old 11-13-2017, 05:07 PM   #6006
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

When I played one of these new micro turbos we where in the money after 4 hours of play with 3 hours of late reg. I was expecting something faster. I think they started around 10pm and for me they finish way to late even as a turbo.
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Old 11-13-2017, 06:11 PM   #6007
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

all,

we have added 12+ PLO tournaments to the schedule.

Thanks for the feedback.
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Old 11-13-2017, 07:40 PM   #6008
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

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The rake on the 5k really needs to be addressed. I don't know how party can justify HIGHER rake in a 5k (6%) than their 1ks (5%); esp. when the 5k has 3 day 1s plus re-entries.
Who cares? 1k runners on $5300 event is very ambitious and effective rake will be lot lower if they don't get 1k+ plrs.

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Is it possible to win more then one seat/ticket into you're 5300$ online Millions? For an eventual re-enter? What happens if you win more then one seat/ticket but u don't have to re-enter? Does the ticket expire at the end of the year? Seems pretty silly since there is not an other option before the end of the year to play an other 5300$ mtt on you're site.
This.


Also, was 2-tier auth. supposed to come today?
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:26 AM   #6009
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Who cares?
EVERYBODY should care ! This sets a precedent, and rake increases will gradually come to high > mid > lower stakes eventually if the changes are not opposed.

Also PS is watching, and they can't wait to increase their rake to the new "industry standard". Who knows, maybe competition from Party is the only thing holding them back!

This should not be treated lightly IMO.
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:34 AM   #6010
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

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Originally Posted by schmette View Post
Hey, just out of curiosity.

When should the Uppercut ideally finish?
It starts @ 20:00 CET.

1)[ ] 2CET 6h of play
2)[ ] 3CET 7h of play
3)[ ] 4CET 8h ..
4)[ ] 5CET 9h ..
5)[ ] 6CET 10h...
6)[ ] 7CET 11h...


General Questions:
What do you think about Games length in general ?

1) 530$ Games reg speed
->[ ] take to long
->[ ] long long enough
->[ ] just perfect

2) 530$ Games turbos
->[ ] take to long
->[ ] long long enough
->[ ] just perfect

3) 215/109$ Games reg speed
->[ ] take to long
->[ ] long long enough
->[ ] just perfect

4) 215/109$ Games turbos
->[ ] take to long
->[ ] long long enough
->[ ] just perfect

5) 55$ Games reg speed
->[ ] take to long
->[ ] long long enough
->[ ] just perfect

6) 55$ Games turbos
->[ ] take to long
->[ ] long long enough
->[ ] just perfect

7) 22$ Games reg speed
->[ ] take to long
->[ ] long long enough
->[ ] just perfect

8) 22$ Games turbos
->[ ] take to long
->[ ] long long enough
->[ ] just perfect

9) 11 and below$ Games reg speed
->[ ] take to long
->[ ] long long enough
->[ ] just perfect

10) 11 and below$ Games turbos
->[ ] take to long
->[ ] long long enough
->[ ] just perfect
late reg is too long at all MTTs imo

i think that any (daily/weekly) MTT should
-not have more then 2 hours late reg,
-not take more then 4 hours from start to ITM,
-not take more then 7-8 hours from start to FT and
-not take more then 10 hours from start to finish
(talking about 1k+ runers, obv lower number of runners then 1k should be = lower runing time of that MTT too)
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Old 11-14-2017, 04:02 AM   #6011
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

Generally I agree with the above but games <$5.50 should be shorter than that. Staying up in the night even for 1-2k 1st prize is worth it and exciting for many people, whereas staying up for a shot at $300 I imagine doesn't feel all that great. Especially if you ft bubble for $20.
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Old 11-14-2017, 06:31 AM   #6012
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

All -

Today we have added an extra leg to both the Title Fight ($500K GTD) and Main event ($200K GTD) as per players request

The new Day 1Cs will start at 15:00CET / 2pm UK with a 12 min clock...
This will be followed by the Day 1D Turbo for both at 18:00CET /5pm UK

Day 2 for both start at 21:00CET / 8pm UK

Good luck at the tables!

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Old 11-14-2017, 07:04 AM   #6013
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The new Day 1Cs will start at 15:00CET / 2pm UK with a 12 min clock...
This will be followed by the Day 1D Turbo for both at 18:00CET /5pm UK
Thanks, this is a nice addition !

In the future would you maybe also consider starting Day 1D 1 hour earlier, and making 8 minute levels instead of 6 min ? Your standard for turbo is 8 minutes, and given the $215 buy-in I think it would be more appropriate.
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:00 AM   #6014
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

The New Schedule is a monster *** IT!!! Some lowstakes rebuy both NLH and PLO and we are perfectt!! I come back to Party and kick some ass!!!
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Old 11-14-2017, 01:43 PM   #6015
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

I like the new additions to the schedule! Please add some normal R/A tournaments, vanilla and maybe add one "special tournament" every day with big GTD and different color, like "Super Tuesday", "Thursday Thrill" on Stars! A few more changes + software upgrade and you'll probably pass Pokerstars
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Old 11-14-2017, 01:46 PM   #6016
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

I didnt specify what kind of R/A tournaments I would like to see, but for instance a couple of $5.50+R, $7.50+R, $11+R, $22+R throughout the day (with 5K startstack, 15K addon). 90 min latereg, 120 min rebuy-period. Alternatively add some 1R1A, which were super popular on stars back in the days! And maybe make a few of them "Sunday Edition" on Sundays with bigger GTD and bold text in the lobby. What do you guys think?
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Old 11-14-2017, 02:12 PM   #6017
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

Logged in today for first time in a month, schedule looks good, wide variety of games across lots of buy in levels.

Can you PLEASE add some 6-max games!!! Not everything needs to be 8-max.


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Old 11-14-2017, 02:36 PM   #6018
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

I heard some rumours that Jambo started to play on Party he is owning the field on the Jab Micros
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:26 PM   #6019
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I heard some rumours that Jambo started to play on Party he is owning the field on the Jab Micros
We'll best they make the most of it whilst they can because from tomorrow i'll be playing on PartyPoker and it will be me who owns the micros, before moving up to own the low-stakes, then the mid-stakes, then the high-stakes, before finally taking over ownership of PartyPoker as a whole - including 'Jambo'.

# Obviously the above is just a bit of light-hearted banter and the bit about owning PartyPoker/Jambo isn't true - although the rest is! LOL
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Old 11-14-2017, 05:00 PM   #6020
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

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EVERYBODY should care ! This sets a precedent, and rake increases will gradually come to high > mid > lower stakes eventually if the changes are not opposed.

Also PS is watching, and they can't wait to increase their rake to the new "industry standard". Who knows, maybe competition from Party is the only thing holding them back!

This should not be treated lightly IMO.
$100 rake increase on once a year tournament affects your yearly total rake by basically nothing. However overlaying 5M guarantee too much will affect Party's ability to run it next year.
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Old 11-14-2017, 05:29 PM   #6021
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$100 rake increase on once a year tournament affects your yearly total rake by basically nothing. However overlaying 5M guarantee too much will affect Party's ability to run it next year.
I guess you missed the whole point. Main problem is not a single tournament, but if people swallow 5000+200 -> 5000+300 we'll soon have 1000+100, 200+20 and 100+10 tournaments in our hands.

It shouldn't really be raked as other live tournaments when it is played solely online.
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Old 11-14-2017, 05:48 PM   #6022
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

Hi,

Imo day 2 of the title flight plays a bit too fast. Usually the 12 minute structure is good to me, but it seems the low average stacks from the turbo flight + perhaps people late regging more than average have an impact for quite some levels after the bubble barst. I think last weeks finishing time (3:50 am) is good. But while only 100 players or so are left the avg stacks keeps dropping towards 28/29bbs. Hence I think it might be a good idea to start day 2 at 20:30 and roll 2 levels back so it starts a bit deeper. The new day 1c ends at 20:20 so that won't conflict and day 1d turbo could be moved to 17:30.

edit: disadvantage from rolling back might be bit extra stalling in day 1s. But given it's around the bubble that's already happening a descent amount anyways. Another option could be to increase level times to 13/14 minutes but I don't know how much later it will end then. Anyways I think it would be good to move it to 20:30 and to utilize +-30 minutes to improve the structure while maintaining finishing time in that 3:45-4am CET range. Slight disadvantage for UK time that when they have to work till 17:00 uk time they have to late reg a bit if they want to play day 1d and the 1c flight doesn't have a 40 minute break anymore, but most players in this flight are likely regs anyways (playing other tables). I think this would be a trade off favoring the overall playing experience but would be good to hear other opinions on this matter.

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Old 11-14-2017, 06:17 PM   #6023
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

Also, I think considering to change the $109 Main event back to a 1 day event could be a descent option. Having a 8 o'clock 1 day sunday major with the $109-$215 buy in range would be good imo. And asking people to reserve 2 days might be less worthwhile for the $109 buy in. I don't mind too much, but I think for players that have sports/events/student associations that like to play on sunday but can't on tuesday it would be nice. Also I believe the votes between making the major a flight with day 2 on tuesday or keeping it a 1 day event with shorter structure were pretty close? So would be reasonable to have 1 flight event and 1 a 1 day event.

And +1 on descreasing the late reg in majority of tournaments.
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:16 PM   #6024
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

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Also, I think considering to change the $109 Main event back to a 1 day event could be a descent option. Having a 8 o'clock 1 day sunday major with the $109-$215 buy in range would be good imo. And asking people to reserve 2 days might be less worthwhile for the $109 buy in. I don't mind too much, but I think for players that have sports/events/student associations that like to play on sunday but can't on tuesday it would be nice. Also I believe the votes between making the major a flight with day 2 on tuesday or keeping it a 1 day event with shorter structure were pretty close? So would be reasonable to have 1 flight event and 1 a 1 day event.

And +1 on descreasing the late reg in majority of tournaments.
Hey, we are really trying to push the 6pm cet time slow for the 1 day tournaments. The 215 got $200k+ prize pool (same as title fight before summer) people don't want to play 1 day tournament till 8am etc so this way is perfect, 6pm cet naturally finishes earlier and then theres the 2 day for people who want to play that.
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Old 11-15-2017, 04:19 AM   #6025
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Re: ****Official PartyPoker/Bwin 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

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Who cares? 1k runners on $5300 event is very ambitious and effective rake will be lot lower if they don't get 1k+ plrs.


This.


Also, was 2-tier auth. supposed to come today?
Re: new RSA alternative - players who were currently using an RSA have been contacted via email
Further details will be shared in the coming months regarding the new option and availability for all

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The New Schedule is a monster *** IT!!! Some lowstakes rebuy both NLH and PLO and we are perfectt!! I come back to Party and kick some ass!!!
Welcome back!


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Thanks, this is a nice addition !

In the future would you maybe also consider starting Day 1D 1 hour earlier, and making 8 minute levels instead of 6 min ? Your standard for turbo is 8 minutes, and given the $215 buy-in I think it would be more appropriate.
I will share the feedback - however I do think the team have nailed it with the current set up and feedback has been very positive
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