So this is the Britney Spears appreciation thread now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YzabSdk7ZA

wow this thread has genuinely become pointless, literally none of our feedback and ideas have being used

I disagree - many points of feedback from this thread have been implemented over the last 6 months

Patrick and the team are working with a "think tank" team to implement many new ideas and suggestions and improve the current offerings etc
Change takes time - nothing was promised to happen overnight though you will disagree the team are making huge steps with regards to improvements across the board on the site - the players numbers prove this

overnight? 18 months later and still you cant put on a few $2 and $3 mtts, its pathetic

I'd like to add my 2cents into this discussion regarding low stakes MTTs.

Firstly can someone explain why should be 20 lvl ( 3-4hrs) latereg good for recs? There are possible reentries which most of the time will be advantage for regs who dont care and just make a reentry so tournaments in deep runs will become even tougher for recs. As you removed all 5$ MTTs from peak hours and replaced it with 11$, I would say there is enough lowstakes players who just sudennly cant afford to pay 2-3 entries in tournament which is 2x expensive than previous one, so if they want to play at least anything on party they can register once for 11$ jab instead of playing comfortably in 5$ jab. If you consider 11$ jab warmup, brawl and brawl at 9pm its at least 40-50$ for BIs without any reentries ( with reentries it can be over 100$) and sad thing there is no alternative to this. So this horrible latereg will be getting advantage for midstakes reg who can afford to take some variance spots because structure will allow them to enter again.

My another point is that 4 hrs latereg is insane long time, people who have to go to work next morning just cant play some random Jab/Contender until 5-6am. If there is latereg end at midnignt and bubble at 1:30-2am its sick.
I just checked Sunday million this sunday and there was money bubble after 4hrs of play.. and not just latereg end.

I would say that 12lvl latereg period was fine but 20 is makes no sense. How many of recs people you think will latereg at lvl 18 or just making reentry ?

As pads said there is plenty of 5$ tournaments but all of them finish at 17:30 and then starts only 11 to 22$ schedule until midnight and thats the issue most people reffers to.

My last question is: can you at least add some 1-3$ satellites into those Jabs/Brawls/ Contender MTTs? I guess people would appreciate that, when you removed all 5$ from peak time.

Thanks

So much THIS!

The name recreational player implements, someone plays in his/her freetime and has a job to do in the not-freetime. And most jobs include Mondays as well. Every rec hates 4 hour late reg for sure. Regs don't care, because its their job to play all night.

Everyone and their dog in the smallstakes world begs for some MTTs in a buyin range of 3$ - 16.50$ with let's say 2 hours late reg max, starting in the (early if it has to be) afternoon and ends around midnight. Why is this so hard to understand? Why is this so impossible to implement into the schedule? This tournaments don't even have to have extraordinary Gtds, they will succeed anyway.

Stars killed all Vanilla MTTs 1 1/2 years ago with their awful schedule f*** up, and look at them now.

Other than that I'm absolutely down with Chuck Bass, there are so many things to work on this site, it's shocking.

Hey

Here is a screenshot of Party vs 888 micro schedules:


Partys schedule looks like someone was very lazy and just copy pasted bunch of 5.50$ mtt-s for the whole day (till 18:30 EET)

888 Has some blue special tournaments like 1.2k GTD Blowfish and the 2k GTD 8-8-8 deepstack. If i start a session i like to reg for those "bigger and special" tournaments, and then just add few cheaper/regular MTTs before and after the bigger ones.

Imo all of the other rooms schedules also look like 888s - you can pick few bigger GTD "special" tournaments in your playing timeslot (Big 4.40, hot 4.40 +some micro bounty builder on stars for example) and then just add few "regular" tournaments.


I really dont care about the gimmick tourneys like bubble rush, win the button or 15min timed MTT-s. Its just about variety of different buy-ins and making some MTT-s "special/bigger"

And your bootcamp 0.22-1.10 is kinda pointless. You could probably just delete the 0.22 and 0.55 ones - Winner gets like ~7$-30$ in these in CET daytime, they are boring.

Your "prime-time" micro schedule is just LOL. You can pick between 11$ Jabs or 0.22-1.10 Bootcamp MTT-s. That doesnt make any sense.

+Your software is kinda bad/slow (hope the new one will arrive soon)
+Your MTT filters are terrible (hope this will change with new software)
+20level late-reg is too long
+Your promotions are boring. Always some Punta-cana or whatever leaderboards

Jambo227 and many others have told you these kind of things for more than a year in this topic and there are still literally no good changes for micro players. You always only "analyze" and "will look into things" and "make changes after summer" or "make changes after the powerfest".

I didnt even play the monster series because your regular schedule is so boring and i didnt want to deposit because of that.


My english isnt very good, so i hope that post still makes some sense.

Then how can you possibly defend what you guys have done/not done to the micro schedule? 11$ tournaments with 4 hours of late reg are not going to keep recreational and aspiring microstakes players on your site. You guys need to fix your structures and add a variety of 3/5/7$ tournaments. People have been saying it in here for months.

The numbers have improved because of the demise of other sites (stars), a great fix of the MS/HSMTT's and the implementation of straight rake back (both are good), but you have done absolutely nothing to develop and implement a healthy mtt and sng ecosystem for micro players.

I am sick of now much this guy moans and how negative he is but he does have a point here.

sure you skim the 888 thread but when we make suggestions he will sometimes post the next day and say yep good suggestion done. He literally can do things overnight seems you are more a public face without much say in policy or have the ability to make changes on the fly that benefit the schedule.

Seems like we have been giving feedback here for a long time and while things have improved slightly none of us care until you give us a stable smooth client. Still no updated client for mac has been months now its just poor to leave us out in the cold like this.

Those are dev issues that a rep really doesn't have the power to fix instantly. The issues like tournament structure and buyin levels have been suggested for months, and are within the power of a rep to get accomplished.

Sure he has and i truely understand the frustrating with comes when "nothing" happens.
Im frustrated myself too but i wont improve if you guys constantly bash people.

Party_Rep has nothing to do with the schedule/offering, so if you want to bash/blame people blame the right ones.

Instead of moaning with every post, which will lead to a toxic Environment you should focus and suggesting things.
How many Microstakes Games 1-4$ you thing could run every hour for example?



If you moan/bash all the time, no wonder why nobody wants to respond anymore.

This Thread is for suggestions, people owe you **** and if they take some suggestions then be happy.
Some of you behave that people are working for you and behave below respectful. Why should anybody wants to listen anymore?

Dont get me wrong i get it you are frustrated but its a free market, if Party right now is not offering your Games then you should move to a Site which does.

A somehwat more respectful handling would be nice.

What do you mean people don't owe you ****? The only toxic post I see is yours. The people in this thread are customers of Party Poker, and have been giving suggestions to them for months on how to improve their service offering to the....wait for it..... customers. If you think that, in the end, businesses don't owe their customers anything, then you don't really understand the relationship between these two entities, because one doesn't exist without the other.

I agree that people should be respectful, but people have been saying the same things in here for months and gotten nothing for it. Other than switching sites in an already dead/declining industry, what do you suggest they do if not keep asking/complaining in the thread that is designed for that very purpose?

fwiw i don't think i have attacked any reps personally, because yeah obv that is wrong, if i have then i do apologize. My frustrations have been towards the site and the lack of improvements for small stakes, despite our constant feedback. The amount of time passed without any improvement is now totally unreasonable.

How many posts have you read in the thread. Not many by the looks of things

Is that really the one sentence you're going to take from my reply? People have a right to call out Party is they are being incompetent (like they were with the main events in the monster series) or not listening to player feedback on obvious things like micro tournaments...

I agree that it should be kept civil and not directly attack reps for things that are beyond their control, but its absolutely ridiculous that this site is actually making micro MTT offerings worse when they have the potential to take huge amounts of business from Stars at the moment.

I’m also going to jump in about the micro schedule basically there isn’t one, was a big fan of the monster series thought that was great but for the $2-$8 buy in range there is nothing from 6pm to 5am UK the times I play, I don’t even open the client anymore. Please have a look at this asap, Appreciate all the other great changes ur making and the live events schedule and guarantees for next year look amazing

Please improve the Omaha Hi-Lo schedule, its only micros.
Im coming from Stars, and im sure more are too the way things are going there. But I play mainly 08, and its scarce on Party.
Even add some in the $11-$27 range for now

I think it could be a bigger mistake than they realise by neglecting the lower stakes for this amount of time. There must have been some recs that have made an account, logged on etc but haven't seen any tournaments they would like to play, this would make new players look for other sites/games etc and they may not return to the site. Waiting this long in the current poker climate doesn't seem like the smartest thing. For all we know online poker could be finished in a couple years or less, yet we have people dragging their heels trying to perfect things in a declining market.

Its just all very strange, i would guess partypoker have a ton of liquidity, yet the tournament schedule is among the worst of all sites, after many months of conversation, i still don't know what they could be thinking about.

I gotta say, playing some mtts on sunday after having not played since wcoop/powerfest, the structures are great. Perhaps they last a bit too long, and late reg is definitely too long, but starting at 100bb and having a lot of play and 0 meaningless levels is a breath of fresh air. But having some start with 30k, some with 50k and others with 100k is a major fustercluck. There is no actual significant difference between these structures and having no idea whether having 120k chips is a nice stack or starting stack without having to check the lobby is ridiculous. If there is some logical pattern on which mtts are 30/50/100k I've certainly missed it. Everything seems set up to have no functionality and confuse you as much as possible. Also, I think having a 100k starting stack on a 11$ tourney is just stupid. Having more than a 50k starting stack on any tournament is, honestly.

Agree wholeheartedly with the other feedback here. Having no NLHE mtts between 1 and 5$ is already too big of a jump, having nothing between 1-10$ at peak hours makes me wonder whether this is real life. Having no plo above 2$ buyin is insanity.

Having no specific filter options is super annoying too especially considering how tiny and how much of a mess the lobby still is. I want to see something like 11-215$ but if I want to see 11$ buyins I'm forced to see 0.01$ buyins as well. Clicking power series helps some, but then I might miss stuff. Not being able to specifically filter out satties sucks. Plus they just don't work well, Right now if I select Category "all" and buyin "high" I still get random 8.80$ satellites for example. Even if a custom buyin range is not a thing (no idea why it wouldn't be, stars has had this since probably 2007?) then at least allow us to tick every buyin level individually. It's not like that'd be a big job, you don't have many different ones.

Agree with all of this.

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Have an issue from the past year which still has not been addressed.

Here in Ukraine we have EET time, which is GMT+2.
However, after daysaving time changes, Party client somehow believes it's GMT+3, so that clock in the client is 1 hour ahead of the actual local time.

To be clear from my side - I manage these threads on behalf of partypoker and feedback to various departments
My main job is to ensure the feedback is relayed to the relevant teams regularly and reviewed
I provide a contact for the players directly with our teams on this forum and many other social media outlets including meeting with our players at live events

Correct I can not personally log on and change schedules/set up etc - this responsibility lies directly with the poker room team - however please rest assured I badger the guys daily regarding suggestions/feedback and the ongoing frustrations the thread brings to my attention

I can also help with other issues - software & product suggestions & issues/promotional queries/T&Cs clarification/account issues to some extent/ tickets etc etc which I believe offer some validity to the 2+2 community

Pads came on board some months ago and agreed to head up this particular thread - hence my lack of response to the more detailed feedback - please do not however take this is myself ignoring any comments
Pads has provided detailed information regarding recent schedule and structure changes etc and will continue to do so

The MTT schedule is a priority and is being dealt with - alongside an improved PLO offering

Regarding software comments and unhappy MAC users - the next release is planned for the end of November and a MAC update should be available alongside further lobby/software improvements
We clearly stated when we changed the look and feel of our software these changes would be implemented in stages

I do believe we are making changes in the right direction - the team are committed and on board to improving our site, offerings and the players WILL be listened too
If you look at the content of this thread and the main thread just two years its clear to see the massive turn around we have made already however there is still along way too go - though I am 100% this will be achieved

Thanks

Colette

Did you raise this with the customer service teams?
If so can you provide your username and I will find out why it has not been dealt with or shared

I will raise with product now and look into this

Thanks

Hey guys,

Like i said in previous post, important we add some "branded" and better smaller stakes tournaments alongside the "lower runner" ones. Over next day or two will see inclusion in the lobby of a bunch of micro variations of some of our most popular tournaments at 1/2/3/5$ buy in kind of range. We will adjust the times after they are in initially to be most optimal, but keep an eye out of them in next couple of days and will post in here when we have them all complete.