Exactly. I've highlighted the last bit because, I think it would be fair to say that this applies to most pokersites. The difference between most pokersites and PartyPoker is the fact that, most pokersites recognize this fact and cater accordingly.
If you have a look at a lot of other pokersites MTT schedules, you will see a large selection of games available in the $1-$11 buy-in range on a daily basis and as part of a regular schedule throughout the day and night. The difference being in the GTD's which lower during off-peek and increase during peek times.
PartyPoker on the other hand go about things a completely backwards way and instead put the buy-ins up (and out of reach for a large portion of there player base), whilst offering no alternatives during peek times and then offer some lower buy-in games during non-peek times.

I've said this previously and i'll say it again, lower stakes players aren't going to log-in during peek times, see most of the games on offer are $11+ and decide o'we'll i'll just deposit lots more money and take shots at these buy-ins. They will instead deposit elsewhere on all the other pokersites who do cater for them and offer the buy-ins that PartyPoker don't.

From the outside looking in on PartyPoker, it seems as though the site is for mid-high stakes players and that they purposely discourage and show that they don't want lower stakes players by, leaving them out and pretty much not catering for them at all.

It reminds me of a 'country club for the wealthy' who frown upon those aren't in the same league so to speak.

I don't know whats going on behind the scenes or who's making these decisions or for what reasons but, if you wan't the site to flourish IMO your going about it the wrong way and shooting yourselves in the foot by catering for some and not for everyone like other pokersites do.

Yeah, I LOL when I read that too. Players aren't asking for 'monster series GTD's' on all games on a daily basis, there just asking for some games similar to the monster series and with similar buy-ins to be put into the regular daily schedule.
Games at $2.2, $3.3 and $4.4 don't have to have $10k GTD's attached. You could start with $200,$300+$400 GTD's whilst word gets out and player numbers increase, then increase GTD's accordingly as you go along, with maybe a couple of special ones each week with bigger GTD's.

It's all pretty simple and logical stuff - we'll it is in my mind anyway...

I never said that a 3$ had to have 10k gtd thats something Chuck wrote and everyone just jumped on it. I said its quite hard to fill a 10k gtd with a 3$ buyin for PP. Stars can do that.

I just think its a touqh question nowadays and I might be wrong. If I was a pokersite and my option would be offering 1-5$ mtts where I only get 300-500 runners each time and half of them are regs(positive ROI) is that a good scenario for the site. Or is the money just leaving the system that way.

I assume that over 90% of the posters in this thread are regs and not losing recs. Even if you are playing just once or twice a weak but actually make money you are not recs who bring money to the system.

I agree that recent weeks have been a disaster with the constant changing of mtts and schedules and I would love to have a better offering from PP on the micros. But if it was a choice between longterm and shortterm health of the games I would opt for the longterm rather the shortterm even if I dont play midstakes right now. It would be less of a problem if players actually would move up once their bankrolls get bigger but too many stay in the micros and make their steady money. Its good thinking by players to judge their ability etc but with the current situation of segregation, gambling bans and a fragile world economy I dont think that sites can afford that anymore.

You also have to make a plan for weekdays and weekends in the micros. I think in mid to highstakes its less a problem because the amount you can win will always attract players even if they have to work next day. On Saturday I finaltabled a 5$ on 888 with a little more over 300 runners and around 300 for first. It took 8hrs. Do you think enough recs will turn up monday to thursday for that? I dont ask for turbos but I think 5-8 years ago a mtt on Stars with 3k starting stack was itm after 3,5hrs, reached finaltable around 6 hrs or so. What was wrong with that? Nowadays everyone tries to overdo structures.

New schedule today?

Remove the 20 level latereg and we don't need 50k or 100k chips. Make the structure more normal for low stakes players.

ahh ok, but my ticket still disappeared, i dont have it anymore. it has expiration date so i guess when they unregistered me from the tournament the ticket date was already expired. i registered into the tournament few days ago when my ticket wasnt expired. now what?
ofc i wouldve used it before if i knew there will be no tournament on sunday

As someone who had to withdraw majority of my roll recently and is trying to rebuild it seeing the lobby makes me miserable and want to withdraw and move the funds back to stars (yeah, stars ). $5.50 tournaments are not appealing at all and there's nothing lower. SNGs are miserable as well.

Not very professional to unreg everyone and change the buy in.
Ask refund for your ticket.Still no new schedule.

A wider buyin range is a MUST!
You need to add
Micro: $1.10, $2.20, $3.30 and $4.40
Low: $7.50, $16.50, $33
Mid: $44, $82
If you can make this happen in the Daily schedule and more variety of games (PKO, rebuys, vanilla, etc..) then you have huge potential, but as of now PartyPoker is mostly for mid-highstakes players

once again frustrated with you guys, promised a new schedule on the 6th of November and absolutely no change and no word from any rep, its a joke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EScLmWJs82I

in case you need some music till a new schedule is coming

Hi

Monster series daily fixing was priority for previous weeks.

Everything on this side of the desk looking very logical, first thing is to fix the quick fixes that need to be changed rather than adding things.

Things like:

1- Logical guarantee increases
2- Looking at time bank in turbos
3- Looking at clocks in all the tournaments (some turbos had 8 mins for example)
4- Reducing late reg in some tournaments
5- Moving some tournaments to new times (:15 etc)

I know everybody wants everything to be changed at 100 miles/hour and get all emotionally involved in it, completely get that and I was like that for long time and still am to some degree.

We will work on the above and other related things and make things all logical first.

For people who assume we are not listening ITT that isn't true, it is more selective, there is million people wanting a million different things, from my POV there is 9 people taken from ITT who are all very clued up, play a range of stakes, have a range of expertise etc, people like blakman is included in there now too, voices get heard don't worry.

For people who assume I just played super high rollers all my life I was a losing microstakes player and then was a poker ecologist for 4+ years working under Dominik Kofert (the initial end boss of poker ecology) we actually went around the inter webs for years speaking solely on behalf of amateur and low stakes players.. I understand the importance of lower stakes tournaments helping the chain. There is also a lot of other things that need to be taken into account too for the bigger picture.

Regarding low stakes, whilst it is on the agenda to improve, currently there are 30 $5 games/day with a large frequency of them being smaller stakes games very similar to say the 180 mans from PS. They run very frequently, have between 150-300 runners typically. Increasing the volume of these or spreading them out to later in the day would be a logical step, however when the lobby is currently cluttering up at 6pm/8pm cet having such a high frequency of these is not going to be GTO. Once the lobby comes out it will help this problem a lot and then the logical thing is to add more tournaments. If we added a bunch more now it would be extremely hard for beginner players to find which tournament they actually want to play.

If you want to see micro stakes ($1-$2) you can go to the bootcamp tab. They are flyweight tournaments and again have low runner fields meaning that amateur players can get an introduction to tournament poker, they can have more taste of going deep in tournaments and they don't last forever. For example the $1.10 tournament that started 3 hours ago is approaching the bubble and average stack is around 35bbs.

From an ecology pov the following things happen

1- People come to the site and are able to play games that don't last too long
2- Players play in WAY lower variance fields than others sites and thus their "life" is longer
3- Players get experience playing deeper in tournaments, have the thrill of being in the final two tables, getting to the final table etc
4- They are able to build their bankrolls in a more steady route.

What should be added relatively soon is 1/2 "mains" each day that have the larger field.

People asking for a 300 runner $3.30 tournament to be added, I mean sure that is OK, but we currently have $1.10, $2.20, $5.50 and $11 tournaments with those field sizes, I don't think adding a $3.30 is really that critical right now.

Just to reiterate for those who read but don't actually play on the site and for those who post at a very high volume but don't actually play on the site, there IS a lot of micro tournaments on the site, some previous

Anyway, this week and next week will be busy. I just got the new software and will be giving feedback on that and hopefully fully beta testing it over the next week. I am sure people will like the new software, it should come in two instalments, this month (lobby) next month (table)

I'll post itt over the next week or so if/when there are slight quick fixes implemented.

Good luck at the tables.

p.s adding this in at the end so you don't have to read if you don't want to.

In terms of calling people ******s, crayon eaters etc, whilst it may be funny to people and its fun to jump on a bandwagon and be in the cool internet forums haters group (i have been there as you all know!) and whilst it really doesn't bother me personally, its this exact mob mentality/very aggressive tone of voice that is why there is so little dialogue between poker sites and poker players these days. Remember no matter if 95% of people are happy the 5% will always be a lot louder, but as long as its done in a constructive way with a solution (I've said this a lot but suggesting something like "I think a $5.50 called the Mike Tyson are 7pm cet with prize pool of $10k would be really good because xyz") people are going to listen and communicate and feedback etc. Once it just gets so aggressive and using names like ******s and crayon eaters, like I said previously the mob will laugh but the staff will just run away/avoid coming to forums/be scared to come and check what people are calling them etc, its happened on 2p2 a lot and right now in some other threads.

How many times have you heard people call 2p2 the place of trolls? The worst place to go to? Full of haters? Etc etc, I've been involved with a bunch of different companies, I consulted as an ecologist for stars/tilt/ipoker and the general consensus whenever 2p2 came up was it was a very toxic place. This is actually really sad as there is so many bright people which so much constructive things to add and definitely know more than the people at the sites because they're playing every day, getting a feeling etc. Right now in most companies if somebody who is responsible from the thread writes "hey 2p2 are going crazy, all moaning about xyz, they really don't like it" either 1) Senior staff will come on the site, see very horribly written messages and just instantly think this kind of person can't be smart enough to understand or help or 2) They won't even go to the site because they think its toxic. I'm telling you this as 100% fact, take from it however you like guys.

My goal of you playing on the site is unfortunately not looking great, I know you want diversity, but I want you to just start playing something! I will give you a tournament ticket for every post you've made in the thread over the last 2 months (38 if i am counting correctly, your contributions and feedback to the thread are very welcome! PM me your username and we will get you started!

what about my ticket which went to trash into space after unregistering me from a tournament which was deleted

Yes there are 30 5$ tournaments but there are NONE of them between 18.30-03.30 EET

I noticed that I could register to the Title Fight even if I already passed in the Day1A, is it a mistake or the tournament is stack choice?

It says in the tournament info even that you can play how many flights you want and take the biggest stack to day 2.

there are no $2.20 mtt's not sure where you get the idea there are $2.20 mtt's available. it's either 1.10 or 5.50 nothing in between. also why does it hurt to just run 3$ mtt's with low gtd's ? what is the problem?

all there is is 1.10 or below that is the reason people are asking for 2$ or 3$ tourneys. even if you give them super low gtd's, just having them in general won't hurt will it?

also once again why do you deduct 35$ from a 1$ rebuy prize pool and hand it out in $8.80 title fight tickets instead of cash, what makes you think this is right?

No thanks, i am boycotting purely out of principal now. I am done with this, i wanted to play on your site but there is nothing to play, its bemusing.

you can play as often you like, biggest stack will "play" on day2

the eliminator is no longer a prog mtt?

It doesn't seem like we are getting heard to be honest. You have a large number of players saying a similar thing recently and yet, you seem to have dismissed the issues raised (including mine).

It somewhat seems like you have a fixed agenda that only caters for certain things and aren't open or willing to step outside of that.

For the record, there are no $2.20 MTT's on your site. 'Bootcamp/Flyweight' offers games up to $1.10 - the next buy-in level is $5.50.

FYI: The buy-in levels currently look like this : $0.22, $0.55. $1.10, $5.50, $11.

There are big gaps once you hit the $1.10 buy-in amount, hence why large numbers of players are asking for more buy-in levels.

If you had $2.20 buy-in games like you stated, then I would agree with you that it's not critical to add for example a $3.30 buy-in but, the fact is that you don't and therefore IMO it perhaps should be a priority that you add in these buy-ins.

If you read my previous posts, you will see my reasoning behind this and the fact that PartyPoker isn't in line with the majority of other pokersites who do offer these buy-in ranges and that you are losing a large number of players to those other sites because of it.

I read and play on the site; and I disagree that there are a lot of micro events on the site. There are a number of events up to the $1.10 mark - yes. But, micros (IMO) cover buy-in ranges up to around the $5 mark and you have nothing between $1.10 and $5 to call a micro event. IMO I wouldn't call what you have now a 'micro schedule', I would in fact call it a 'mini-micro schedule' because you have the majority of micro buy-ins missing.

# Just so your aware, i'm actually a new player to PartyPoker and came in during the 'monster series'. My opinion's are based on the viewpoint of a new players perspective and what has been highlighted in my mind from my short time on the site.

I can tell you that since the monster series finished, I haven't played a single MTT on PartyPoker and have instead played on other sites. Why? Simply because the majority of other pokersites offer the buy-in ranges that you don't.

I would be quite content to play the majority of my online poker on PartyPoker and not play on other sites but, not until you sort out your buy-in ranges and offer what I would deem to be a 'real micro/low-stakes schedule' (just like the majority of other sites have).

There are a few 2$, however those are PLO it seems so you guys are right party is definitely lacking in that regard. Currently we are reviewing the points pads mentioned first. The truth is monster series didn't go down exactly as planned, so instead of coming up with fixes/new tournaments as initially planned we had our hands full with monitoring monster series.

I have a honest question, what did party expect from the monster series?

did you expect the site with the worst micro schedule to suddenly get a mass increase in micro players just for the series to reach every single guarentee?

and ofcourse even if that did happen they will just fade away afterwards because there is NOTHING to play.

i cannot believe you are letting this oppertunity slide.

atleast make use of the money invested in overlays and give the new players that came just for the series something to play or do you want them to jump into your title fight sats?

i'm just so shocked that there is no efffort to even try and keep the players that came just for the series, it can't be that hard to run some very small low gtd 2$ and 3$'s while creating a new schedule they don't even need big gtd's as long as there is something to play.

it's not even my site and i get mad even thinking about watching all these players leave that we got onto the site with the series.

The thing is if you can't do a step forward at least don't do a step backwards.
Before Monster Series there was a micro-low schedule.Not perfect but still instead of now.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean, yesterday at $11 buy in range (around average of monster series:

$11 1469 runners
$11 2569 runners
$11 2358 runners

Today there is also 2 $11 1500+ runner fields, a 700 runner field still in late reg etc.

At $22 level we have a 1000+ runner field a few 500+ runner fields and at $55 the brawl and counterpunch are very popular.

In terms of the micro stakes there was a 7pm event with 1000+ players ($1.10) and smaller fields around it including 500+, 350+ and 300+ runner fields.
We have some great games and want them to grow more and more and are already saying we will add more games in the near future.