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10-20-2017 , 07:19 PM
Hi party I will use a lot of time to write his and considering I m probably the biggest volume grinding reg with a working brain leftnin his skull to write such a thing please take note bc this is a very unique spot for u to grab a ton of market share that will become available this upcoming month.

With Stars adding a million reentries to their non flagship and on Sundays eben to those mtts this is what's going to happen in the mid term:

Their non branded tournaments will in most cases get reentries while their flagships remain vanilla. This will very likely cause recs to play more flagship and fewer nonbranded mtts bc those look more expensive and as such logically get regs to reenter more than recs. On Sundays this effect will amplify even more bc then literally everything Is reentry when a FKTON of ppl regs and recs alike like a good old vanilla freezeout. They are killing or have already killed any and all rebuys as well so based on that The following Is a list of tournaments that you should remove and he second list is a list of suggestions you should replace them with:

REMOVE

22$ 2k turbo pko
22$ 2k fo
22$ 2k pko
55$ 5k
109$ 5k pko

ADD:

22$ 3k fo
22$ 4K pko
22$ 3k turbo

- slightly more aggressive guarantees definitely have done wonders in growing your mtts, your non branded mtts def deserve that treatment as well and they should strive to attract the same people that look to flee from the reentry infested Stars so keep them pure but at least increase their gtd to 3k it works wonders

ADD

$44 25% pko 6max (instead of two micro 22s)
$55 7.5k pko(instead of 5k fo)
82$ 6max 6k (instead of the 109$ 5k pko)
22$+r 5k (instead of another)
33$ 6max turbo 4k
11$+r (10k instead of the last medium sized 22$ before the contender, give it a catchy name and make it special on Sundays, huge potential)

Yes I m being very optimistic and maybe your numbers don't support it but I just can't imagine you being not able to attract players like myself who are loooking for a good vanilla treatment and will soon be facing reentry only mtts on stars

Amen and gl
10-20-2017 , 07:48 PM
Blakk do u realize that party have unfortunately re-entries on EVERY flagship tournament?
10-21-2017 , 03:15 AM
Counterpunch doesn't have them I think and does just fine no?
10-21-2017 , 04:56 AM


Am I using filters wrong? I just want to see Monster series events and not a million satellites.
10-21-2017 , 06:54 AM
i want to know why monster series structures have changed right before the series starts?
10-21-2017 , 07:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steamy Kangaroo


Am I using filters wrong? I just want to see Monster series events and not a million satellites.
+1111
10-21-2017 , 08:22 AM
I though the point in the monster series was to try some different things, now everything is the same structure again? either this is a mistake or total incompetence, i wonder what bryan thinks of this after working on all of the different structures, i'm so sick of the stupid stuff you guys do
10-21-2017 , 08:33 AM
https://gyazo.com/c26d41fc41789ee47646ddcae2f6401b

Event title says 33% PKO but the tourney info states 50%?

which one is it gonna be?
10-21-2017 , 08:40 AM
33 of buyin then u get 50 on top of own and 50 cash of theirs when u kick em
10-21-2017 , 10:11 AM
Cross-posting this here, especially 109+ MTT players should check. Really could help if some people could find more possible members of this collusion ring.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...poker-1693383/

And I know how that topic sounds. But just read it before shooting the messenger.
10-21-2017 , 10:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blakkman08
Counterpunch doesn't have them I think and does just fine no?
counterpunch is reentry fella
10-21-2017 , 11:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryan - Party
[INDENT]
The structures are being custom-written for this series. I've been working on the structures, starting stacks, late registration times, etc for over a week. While the full details would be a bit much to post here at the moment, I can tell you that within each stakes level, the starting stacks vary by buy-in.

I initially had higher starting stacks planned than are currently in place, but especially for the micro-stakes events, I have to account for the possibility of running out of available registration slots due to exceeding the maximum number of chips in play... so, I've modified them a bit and still retained a system which I think will work out very well. Here's an example of one option (three written at present) for non-rebuys in the micro stakes level:
$1.10 Standard: 5,000 starting chips
$2.20 Standard: 7,500
$3.30 Standard: 10,000
$4.40 Standard: 12,500
$5.50 Standard: 15,000
$11 Warm-Up: 20,000
$22 Main Event: 25,000
$any Ultra-Deep: 50,000
Suddenly this has all been changed???
10-21-2017 , 01:24 PM
great changes to the low-midstake tourney offerings on sunday

why cant you guys do something similar to the rest of the schedule ?

get rid of these bland middleweight names and come up with something creative .
10-21-2017 , 01:31 PM
Hey, all Monster Series stuff please post in its dedicated thread, myself/Collete have nothing to do with it and can't answer queries regarding it, I'm sure Bryan will reply in due course over there.

What we have been working on is in two areas:

1) Backbones of the schedule

To me this is most important way to shape our schedule. Important is that every hour there is good tournament for at least 2 levels of players. Its important to plan this well so tournaments don't cannibalise each other. Right now we have:

https://gyazo.com/810e28e1527348d37ac8ac43f5c4f31c.jpg

(it doesn't load properly, could mod do this please)

Please give us some feedback on this, remember this is just the "main events" rather than the smaller guaranteed/turbos etc.

Times are UK.

2) The nitty gritty of the schedule. LG is looking extensively at the data here, finding under/overachieving tournaments, it will take longer to do this, but they will be strategically improved/removed/guarantees increased when necessary etc.
10-21-2017 , 03:30 PM
Hi guys,

Will the promised software update coming in November affect bwin as well? Or is it only planned for the partypoker skin?
10-21-2017 , 03:39 PM
hey pads can we have 8$ or 11$ rebuy or 1r1add at like 16h-17h CET time slot i remember those mtts were really great on stars

like 1 hour late reg 1:30 rebuy period
10-21-2017 , 03:54 PM
Pads:

10-21-2017 , 03:59 PM
Sparring match as a new name suggestion?

Really glad the 33$ timbey is going to happen, just please add some and flesh out some stuff before peak time there s too much of the same stuff that s not st all exciting. Do like some cheaper erosion of the daily specials around midday or 2 pm for example. Yes it's Stars like but that idea is the one thing that's not dumb they have done in last four years

Overall great start look forward to more
10-21-2017 , 04:20 PM
make one of the $11 psko "brawl" tournaments a 6 max
10-21-2017 , 05:44 PM
If your keeping the boxing theme id go with the following titles

Flash knockdown or Flash - 9pm turbo and add a $22 version aswell

Journeyman - A boxer whos been in the game for years, this tournament kicks off around lunchtime and is slow paced.

Hall of fame - Monthly special tournament with 2 different buy in levels at the end of every month.All final tablelists of main and mini main are awarded one ticket to this hall of fame tournament.

The combo - Undecided what kind of tournament this would be but probably something for earlier on in the day as mornings and early afternoon is dead on your site currently.
10-21-2017 , 10:52 PM
Hey guys,

Quote:
Originally Posted by milennial
Hi guys,

Will the promised software update coming in November affect bwin as well? Or is it only planned for the partypoker skin?
I'm not 100% sure, I assume so.. Colette will confirm for us.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Re8uZ
hey pads can we have 8$ or 11$ rebuy or 1r1add at like 16h-17h CET time slot i remember those mtts were really great on stars

like 1 hour late reg 1:30 rebuy period
Will look into rebuys for sure once we cemented the "core" tournaments, will be definitely interesting points about them.
Quote:
Originally Posted by blakkman08
Pads:

thanks sweetie

Quote:
Originally Posted by blakkman08
Sparring match as a new name suggestion?

Really glad the 33$ timbey is going to happen, just please add some and flesh out some stuff before peak time there s too much of the same stuff that s not st all exciting. Do like some cheaper erosion of the daily specials around midday or 2 pm for example. Yes it's Stars like but that idea is the one thing that's not dumb they have done in last four years

Overall great start look forward to more
The $33 today unfortunately wasn't as successful as planned, around $20k+ overlay, will try and make sure the other ones during monster series run at right times etc and I really hope they are successful. Early version of the event seems like nice idea.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jambo227
make one of the $11 psko "brawl" tournaments a 6 max
I like this because psko should be about being aggressive and trying to gamble etc which 6max encourages, later on in the schedule you have less tables too so its easier to manage. Will def strongly consider this.

Quote:
Originally Posted by the_bridler
If your keeping the boxing theme id go with the following titles

Flash knockdown or Flash - 9pm turbo and add a $22 version aswell

Journeyman - A boxer whos been in the game for years, this tournament kicks off around lunchtime and is slow paced.

Hall of fame - Monthly special tournament with 2 different buy in levels at the end of every month.All final tablelists of main and mini main are awarded one ticket to this hall of fame tournament.

The combo - Undecided what kind of tournament this would be but probably something for earlier on in the day as mornings and early afternoon is dead on your site currently.
i like some of these a lot, especially flash and journeyman.
10-22-2017 , 05:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by milennial
Hi guys,

Will the promised software update coming in November affect bwin as well? Or is it only planned for the partypoker skin?
Look and feel - partypoker only

Improved software/ tools etc - both bwin and party I believe
10-22-2017 , 09:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
I like this because psko should be about being aggressive and trying to gamble etc which 6max encourages, later on in the schedule you have less tables too so its easier to manage. Will def strongly consider this.
Also I think it's a bit dull to name a tournament 'xxxx 2' at peak time. When they both have a slightly different design (6max and 8max) you can maybe look to use this in the name to distinguish the tournaments. Like naming them the 6max brawl and brawl. Not 100% sure about this but could be something to think about.

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10-22-2017 , 11:58 AM


What is actual reason for keeping all these tournaments at the same time, instead of spreading them out like 5pm-6:30pm? Or even like 4-4:30pm.
10-22-2017 , 12:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OzzyM


What is actual reason for keeping all these tournaments at the same time, instead of spreading them out like 5pm-6:30pm? Or even like 4-4:30pm.
They were initially scheduled to start very early, for example $55 80k guaranteed which is an amazing tournament that everybody would love to play. It was supposed to be at 1pm, but most people will log on to play sessions in Europe 4 hours later, and we have big Canadian and Brazilian market that wont be able to play it. We just moved forward a few tournaments that makes sense logically. Downside is that theres heaps of tournaments starting at same time, but I wasn't initially involved in Monster Series and just trying to make some logical decisions, but whatever the resolution is there will always be some downside. F/e on Saturday we had two "decent" sized tournaments and both overlaid $20k+ and a few of the others overlaid $10k, thus the initial expectations about response to lower stakes tournaments earlier in the day, and being 2 day etc were probably a little bit unrealistic, but guess you can't know unless you try.

      
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