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All - we have made some changes to our regular Thursday Uppercut and Highroller schedule
Introducing Superheavyweight Thursdays!

The following tourneys have an increase on the guarantees >>

·12ET / 17BST High Roller: increased $20 to $50K Gtd
·14ET / 19BST Uppercut: increased $50k to $100K Gtd
·14ET / 19BST High Roller: increased $50K to $100K Gtd
·16ET / 21BST High Roller: turbo increased $20K to $50K Gtd

Good luck at the tables!

Good job with the increased guarantees.

For the biggest nightly tournaments (mainly Uppercut) how about a turbo deadline satt going off 15 minutes before the UC starts, with say 50 seats guaranteed, and make it clear players are then put straight in the tournament. At the moment as far as I can tell there are only generic ticket satts.

Ok it's copying Stars but I think it's a good addition.

Guess the problem with this is having more than 50 players regged at start. Maybe at first have 20 seats guaranteed and see if can build it up

I think adding some "turbos" at 1am cet, see how popular they are, use them as tournaments for people to finish their sessions with. If popular, can ad a few more.


I think historically later tournaments that get low runners don't work well as 6m. I think we should make some proper 6max tournaments earlier in the schedule. A lot of the contender/uppercut/counterpunch late editions start with low runners so play short handed anyway.

hey, this doesn't happen overnight, we don't just say ah ok lets update the software for tomorrow. I wrote ITT about software, by November 25th we should hopefully have the next stage of improvements, including full size lobby, new buy in filters etc.

With which structure? Raked rebuys or not? Logically to me rebuys should probably be raked, otherwise you're playing a $60 tournament with $2 rake which is bad for the site. I think raked rebuys haven't gone down well in the community previously and 22 cubed etc have died elsewhere.

if doesn't get fixed lmk.

November 25th!

Hm didn't know about this. I think giving $215 tickets in $109 tournaments would be good addition, I'm not quite sure about this. Lets see how numbers do from it over next week and make quick adjustments if not popular.

Yes, think its good idea, in the new schedule they should be there.

Well so far it has been horrible , every 1$ mtt that usually breaks the guarentee has overlay now.

Also why would you ever think it's better to hand out a ticket instead of real $? it makes 0 sense these tickets are actually deducted from the prize pool.

Very very bad timing as well to scare away micro stake players just before monster series just a horrible horrible decision.

No way really? Awesome!

Will mac users be part of the party this time for software update?

Why there's no unregister allowed in certain live satellites even when paying cash for seat? Was really trying if I could get a 5,5$ ticket to my account from free 1,1$ sat which I could use later as I really didn't want to play next satellite but this seems just a major glitch.

Unregister should surely be allowed if registering with cash? Not much money, but if someone happens to mistakenly register to live satellite and they're unable to unreg it surely is bad.

love the recent changes (structures, gtds, new games, reverting back to old color scheme)

i cant wait for monster series

please improve lobby filters more though

You should add an ultra deep to the regular schedule. But make it start around 5 or 6 CET

Trying to implement raked rebuys would be waste of time imo. People stopped playing it, because PS started to rake rebuys. Just do it unraked or not at all.

I think that for start you should create just one nicely structured daily rebuy and this is really good suggestion. Make it $11+R [$10k GTD] on weekdays, $33+R [$30k GTD] on Sundays and $109+R [$100k GTD] during Powerfest. No need to implement cubed rebuys imo.

I remember about three years ago that daily $55+R was only reason I opened Party every day and registered just this tourney. And it should be a same goal for Party today. Rebuys are dead across all sites. You have a chance to attract new players, because there is still hunger for rebuy tournaments. Actually this thread started because people wanted that $55+R back. And I am surprised that three years later we dont have a single rebuy tournament on Party.

17:00 [CET] Middleweight: $5k Gtd Freezout
This daily $55 tourney works really great and it has a high potencial. Since new structures and late reg was introduced there is usually prizepool from 6k to 7k. Maybe you can make it bold and push it to 10k gtd? You can name it as Fifty Five Freezout or something.

All - Play the Highroller event or our Uppercut and earn double cash back points TODAY!

Simpy play either of the MTTs above and the bonus points will be added to your weekly total..

Good luck at the tables!

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With which structure? Raked rebuys or not? Logically to me, rebuys should probably be raked, otherwise, you're playing a $60 tournament with $2 rake which is bad for the site. I think raked rebuys haven't gone down well in the community previously and 22 cubed etc have died elsewhere."

2k$ Chips for Entry/Rebuy + 4k for Add-on.
Using high stakes structure like Uppercut [Obv this tournament would have shallower stacks, but I what I mean is nice slowly increasing blind structure], but making 10-minute levels, would be awesome.
About rake, personally, I wouldn't mind paying rake for rebuys/add-ons at all. I rather spend my rake money here on a party for these games then play some random tourney on stars.


Maybe adding only 11+R & Low BI Turbo [2x or 3x] for starters to see how players react would be good, and then go from there.

Thanks

Is this a troll?Pls dont rake rebuys!!!

Every site currently running which has started to rake rebuys have seen rebuys dead.

Only site I have ever seen which has successfully ran rebuys which have had rake was Entraction / IGT network. They took 9% out from initial buy-in as rake and 4% from rebuys and add-ons. Partial reason for raked rebuys were that they also had hugely popular Wild West tournaments with unlimited rebuys for first hour (no max chip count, turbo speed so people could decide how many chips they could play with), 500 chips per €0,25 which had 8k€ guaranteed which roughly never overlayed in a network which was otherwise very small. They also had 11+r 8k€ guaranteed and other tournaments.

This network which was quite popular along Nordic countries was mostly smaller than MPN nowadays so a fraction of Party's current player pool, so if successful it would be like Party would have daily Wild West tournament with 0,25$ buy-in with 50k$ guaranteed and daily 11+r with 50k$ guaranteed. With lots of 5,5+r and 11+r running with 5k$+ guaranteed. Most satellites were also rebuys, 2,2+r and 5,5+r being most popular and usually awarding 100 or 200 buy-ins. They had it so that 1st entry had to be used on target event, but rest of the entries were credited as cash. This resulted in popularity of satellites and very soft fields in high buy-in events.

Maybe this 9% / 4% system could be tried as a compromise, but I don't see any event how Party could run fully raked rebuys . They're just raketrap and rebuys are effectively more comparable to cash games than freezeout tournaments running rake with no cap for 9%-10% each pot as there's lots of flips during rebuy period. No-one would play cash games if they had 9% rake with no cap.

Their downfall wasn't raked rebuys that IGT bought them and virtually banned 80%+ countries for no reason and then shut down operations in one year.

There is no rebuys atm to rake and other sites DO rake rebuys. Which means you prob not playing these tournaments at all, so please stick to your games and don't share your 'whiny opinion' here as what Pads are saying about 2$ rake for 60$ tournament is def reasonable.


Edit: Also would be great to have an alternative for 'Favourite MTT's' as stars have it. That would eliminate some struggle and provide more comfort because of current lobby designs.

Why there are no rebuys accross all sites? Because people stopped playing it.

Why people stopped playing it? Because sites started to rake rebuys.

Once again. Trying to implement raked rebuys on Party would be waste of time. Very slow potential that it will grow in future. It will die sonner rather than later. On the other hand, if party creates nicely structured unraked rebuy, there is a huge pontential to generate a bigger prizepools and bring players who loves this format to the site (because they just simply cant play this format anywhere else).

Actually there is a My Favourite section on Party, but there is no way how to mark some tourney as your favorite afaik

The problem with $1 sat tickets is that they don't have any value and it is almost impossible to qualify for title tight starting from $1 step. If you ever play $1 sats they also take away focus from more important tournaments. It looks like an attempt to minimize title fight overlays at expense of micro players.

If party is ever going to make competitive micro stakes schedule you could add the Jab tickets to ft/top6/top3 at launch of improved schedule. The Jab tickets would have much better value for micro players.

it doesn't just look like it it IS an attempt to minimize title fight overlays at the expense of micro players.

the important part people are missing here is that it is not free tickets that are added it's tickets being part of the prize pool deducted from the $ in the prize pool. so they basicly give you a ticket instead of cash $. if you wanna bait micro players and abuse them to fill your gaps at higher stakes and satelites then hand them free tickets don't deduct it from the prize pool thats just disgusting and disrespectfull.

No ticket prizes please, except as an added prizes. They're super bad for tournaments, not least because they're hard to use if you already play Title Fight satellites since there's only Title Fight in Sundays, those tickets expire in 30 days and those tickets cannot be used even for Title Fight warm up. Money prizes only should be holy, unless it is satellite of some kind.

Anything been posted today?

Got the above email today, just logged in and I see the Uppercut is the usual 50k. Who missclicked?

hold on a sec, is it just me or have some monster series event structures changed from the last time i looked which was around 1 week or so ago? they are now all 30k starting stacks, i saw a few events which had 10k, 12.5k, 20k etc?

fingers crosed
litle rant about this isue
i just wonder how come we are all ok and and feel that is natural to pay 5$-9$-15$-30$ rake to play in online MTT?

what is difference between 10$, 100$ and 200$ mtt that playing in 10$ mtt will cost 1$ and playing in 100$mtt will cost 9$ and playing in 200 will cost 15$

the truth is that all those numbers (%) are made up "out of somebody ass" when the online poker industry was starting (copying from live MTTs rake scheme which have a lot of more cost for obv reasons) and we all act like thats the way it should be because it always was like that

so the argument of "playing a $60 tournament with $2 rake which is bad for the site" implying that the natural "correct" way is to pay x% of buy in for rake is just false imo


also if we want to go further/deeper with this false "true natural rake" concept we will realize that all this ****y rake back, loyality systems, leader boards are based on this false concept where online site is giving back $$$ to the players on that side from over charged rake
so for ex. instead of making MTT to be 100$+5$ or w/e poker sites are making it 100$+ 9$ and give you 35% rakeback or w/e and make you feel like they are giving some money to you where in reality that s your money

+100 to re8uz

wanting to rake rebuys is showing us who's side you're really on .

making $2 per entrant is bad ? might as well remove everything under $22 on your site lol.

online poker sites have far higher profit margins than live poker rooms cuz their overhead is only a fraction .