ok pads thanks for that info, sounds promising.

My biggest gripe has always been how long they kept this schedule for despite all the negative comments about it, and also how much feedback we have given but nothing was really listened too.

I think people here understand that revamping a whole schedule overnight might not be the smartest thing, but i am sure they could have added a couple more $11 mtt's for example. I believe the schedule was so poor that party could have made many changes that would have been instantly better. Some of the low stakes were overlaying, so i'm not sure how bad it could have been to make some changes long before now. Infact how did the schedule become this poor anyway? Must have only been a couple years ago it was much better, what changed? and why did everything become so repetitive like the buy in's and tournament types etc?

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This will be updated and corrected at some point today I believe - its been raised and its with tech

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Colette

Hey Mr Jambo!

I know you said previously you don't actually play on Party but since last month have 30+ posts on this thread, I think I said it previously, but what kind of tournament would entice you back onto the site? My goal is to now get you to play 1 tournament/day on the site!

Ok, so this will be announced officially later, but some pre information to you lovely guys here about some new changes coming up from next Sunday that should be good for everybody.

The Weigh in ($50k gtd) will now be rebranded as the Main Event Warm Up and double the Guarantee to $100k

The main event ($150k gtd) will now increase to $200k (it got $185k in prize pool last week)

The Title Fight warm up ($100k gtd) will now increase to $150k

The $530 High rollers ($100k and $150k gtds) will now increase to $150k and $200k

The Drago ($40k gtd) will now increase to $50k

The $2600 Super high roller ($100k gtd) will now increase to $150k

The $109 PLO (5k gtd) will now increase to $10k

The Apollo will increase to $10k

The Rocky will increase to $20k

The $5k PSKO will now increase to $10k

The $22 contender will double its guarantee to $50k

The $55 counterpunch will increase to $30k on Sundays

The $11 brawl will double to $10k

The big brawl will increase to $55k

The contender and counterpunch will increase daily (likely $20k)

Thanks

just copy and paste the monster series into the daily schedule and i'm good. I am posting because i used to like playing on party and would like to do so again. But seriously i would like lots of buy in levels, $3.30s 4.40s 7.50s 11s 16.50s, 33s all a mix of 9 handed, 8 max, 6 max and some 4 max also. Would also prefer if every tournament wasn't 30k starting stacks, would like to see some 5k, 10k, 20k starting stacks etc with varied blind structures. Party used to have really good rebuys, low stakes like 3r 5r 10r with good gtd's, would be nice to play those again.

That's nice but I fear u will get a lot of buts as replies mainly bc as I mentioned the focus on solely improving Sunday's is wrongly put imo. But hey it's a change I like so I will shut my face now. Nice changes cheers

Unless u mean the 109 psko that runs x times daily gets guarantee doubled that would be quite big

The Sunday schedule doesn't need revamped thus the changes are easier/quicker to do, but ofc we could wait until November to implement them with the other tournaments, but we understand there will always be people who won't be happy with a change so its better for majority of players to change them from this week.

Pads, if you guys are re-vamping the entire schedule (again) in a few weeks time, why wouldn't you have just left it as it was previously until then? Doesn't make much sense.

Also, once revamped, it sounds promising that it will include a good mix of different NLHE variants. Turbo's, PSKO's, etc. as someone who played a lot of the 6-max games, are they on the docket to return in any way? Powerfest proved they were very popular and I've been suggesting for a while to run a daily major 6-max across a couple buyin levels maybe 1.5-2hrs after the prime time trny's have already started, and have a better gtd on them and make it special, compared to running the same, small one every hour (previous to the changes)

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I think you should go with the unique daily specialmtts everyday approach that other sites has. Just very boring to have the identical tournaments everyday on Party. Thats atleast my reason for not opening the client until Uppercut starts when I do grind mtts.

Variety with tournament names, buyins, colors, formats, startingtimes actually means alot.

Less re entry tourneys, lots of benefits with freezeouts, value your tournament life more, amateurs find it boring and disadvantage that pro players has 3 times to survive, alot tougher field deep in the tournament etc..

Less PKO's.

Also if you plan to have daily/weekly/monthly/yearly tlb, please announce it more clearly in the lobby with rankings/how it works.

Huge +1

What time/buy in would you suggest for "daily specials"?

It sounds good in theory, but running a 215/320 which we don't currently have satellite feeders to and running it (I assume) at same time as the uppercut just doesn't seem like it would work to me and the uppercut is performing amazingly strong atm (guarantee is now $100k on Tuesdays fwiw) so changing that doesn't seem gto.

We have recognised tournaments and they are getting bigger and bigger, Uppercut is 50k every day now, $100k on Tuesdays and effectively $200k on Sundays. Big 109 prize pool is less than uppercuts today for example, sure there is reentry, but for a Monday we have really come long way.

Cannibalising the uppercut would be pretty disastrous to the sites growth.

If you were going to make daily specials Mon-Sat what would you make them? What format, what buy ins, what guarantees?

The thing with daily MTT's everywhere is you can play lots of different kinds of formats all over and then you can play a good amount of "normal" tournaments on Party, the numbers are literally going crazy crazy high from their previous ones and both pros and recreationals do like the offer. Obviously it is not for everybody and definitely needs to be reworked and redone in some ways, but "pure poker" good structures, decent guarantees, 8 handed with strong satellite system is very evidently working atm.

The challenge (which should be the easy bit, getting the player pool from zero to a lot was the tough part) is now to just tweak it in lots of good ways to make the player experience as optimal as possible.

To dberglin and to anybody else, we really are all ears, what 3 tournaments would you really love to see daily that would really massively impact your daily grind and make it a lot more pleasurable logging in and playing a session? We're committed to making that schedule for everybody, so please give actual suggestions on stuff you'd like to see and we will see if its logical to put it in.

Here's what I would love to see

There's two idiot 55$ mtts that are really boring with 3k and 5k gtd.

Make one 6max pko reentry and the other (the early one) freezeout Ultra deepstack with long late reg and single reentry

The Million of 22$ 8max freeze and pko all are both too abundant and too small to bother. Remove some, increase guarantee of some and give them a brand. People love mtts with a name, devise some theme for the pkos and another for the freeze and just make them fewer and more special. Turn some of them into $33s. Turn some 109s that have small pools into $44s

I m sure you didn't mean in ur earlier post that ALL the 109 5k pkos during the week will get a 10k guarantee. If that's not the case then def reduce some of their buyins and make them more attractive, and increase on the weekends

Thanks for fast response Pads. I will try to figure out some suggestions.

What comes to mind is that on Tuesdays/thursdays should be the days to promote the more expensive buyins a bit more.

For example change the early daily 530 highroller (18.00cet) into a blue daily "$215 MiniHighroller" 100k gtd.

You can keep the 20.00CET 530 highroller on all days except on tuesdays/thursdays, where you make it a $1050 Super Highroller 500k gtd (Freezeout!!)
- finaltable of the 215 daily minihighroller each receives a ticket to the $1050 super highroller. (taken from the prizepool obv) but this way the 1k highrollers gets 50+ qualifiers just from this tourney each week and overall much more exciting to play!

so u guys gonna still take a shot with overlays, but wont spend money improving the software?

can u please at least explain us? Is it because its too expensive? To tough to improve?

I think that mostly at the high stakes new structures are quite good. Overall high stakes Texas Hold'em MTT schedule feels ok too. Guaranteeds are easily met and can be raised. Although it is not right to compare it with summer or one week after WCOOP / Powerfest which saw most regs and recs tired from playing it still looks promising.

Only problem I've got are PKOs... even smallest ones with 50 players fields can last for 8 hours, and since registering late gives huge disadvantage in those tournaments really take too long for small field tournaments which really play like top7 paid with 4rd place getting like 3x buy-in.

For variety there could be like one 11$ / 109$ tournament with every day @19:00 CET different structure or even game running. One day it is turbo deepstack PLO bounty with re-entries, another day PLO8 regular tournament, third day Texas Hold'em hyper speed with 100k+ starting stack, fourth day PLO8 33% PKO turbo etc. It takes just one slot and allows you to test new formats too. Call it like a "Game of the Day".

And I won't even repeat my "more PLO8, more PLO, rebuys back" etc. here since it's clear there's demand for them.

I haven't played on Party for a while. But I will come back for Monster Series. Regarding regular schedule I would like to see:
* $11 FO/re-rentry tournament with 3-4k gtd.
* $2 and $3 tournaments with 180 player cap during peak hours (probably at :15 and :45 each hour). It will help to increase my overall volume (180s is the only reason I still play on Stars).
* Replace your $1+r 750 gtd with $3 1k gtd. When I started at your site $1+r was the first tournament I dropped from my schedule because $1+r have very shallow stacks (usually 12bb on money bubble, 15bb on FT). I would much rather invest my $3 in FO/re-entry with decent structure.

Flyweight/bootcamp: your $1 FO/KO/re-entry usually get 2x or 3x of their GTD during peak hours. Be more ambitious with their GTDs! New micro players will not register at your site when they will see $1 100gtd, $1 150gtd etc. (it will give them impression that micro games are dead on your site). For example, your $1 400 KO usually get 900 players (if re-branded as mini-brawl/micro brawl it will get 1k+ players at time slot of brawl/big brawl).

soooo this, basically every tourney in the lobby should feel unique from the rest, there is a lot to be said by having daily specials like "deep stacks" or whatever it may be, but i think you have to vary the starting stacks and structures for tournaments to have a different feel. I think it's worthwhile to bring some 9 handed mtts back also, i like 8 max but its too much of it right now.

FWIW i dont mind the 'repetitive' nature of the current schedule - makes it simple for everyone which i think is great. Schedule is decent and sounds like its only gna improve post-Monster Series. Keep up the good work.

The high-stakes mtts are spot-on imo, however agree with blakkman there are too many $5/ $22 freezouts/ pko atm - could cull a few and increase gts on remaining ones. More is not necessarily better - its important mtts dont cannibalise each other.

Whilst I can understand why people would like a greater scope of buy-ins, this risks undermining the current satellite system which is working pretty well. The satellite system is capitol to an mtt ecosystem - especially as mid-high stakes mtts on Party are already reg-infested - so I'd love to see abit more invested in that regard.

Always nice to see some gtee increases aswell !!

Would love to see some 8/9 handed hyper mtts in the schedule aswell. Obv party specialises in 'pure' poker atm but this risks alienating people who dont want to spend 2/3+ hours on a mtt (even your turbos have a very long structure). + they are fun and a good way to get the gamble out of your system!!

Long shot but a couple of HU hyper mtts is always fun aswell. Unlike regular/ deep HU mtts, hypers can be played easily alongside regular schedule. Stars use to run some $10.20s that were very popular.

+1 I really think in the long run daily special mtts are the best choice, you can start "slowly" and make special tuesday and thursday or whatever and you can monitor it. You can do it in two bi levels in 530/215 and 55/22

I can see that 6-max tournaments was removed completely from party schedule (except satellites to some live events). Now it seems like a good time to make daily 6-max major with a decent gtd. You can start with a freezout (since most of mtts are reentries) and add reentry option later if there will be troubles reaching gtd.

Huge +1 for finally pushing gtds on $55s and making major friday mtts non-pkos.

Hi Pads, that looks promising.

I would like to mention once again that there is a lack of micro buyins there are no 2$ 3$ 4$ 7$ mtt's the gaps are too big it's either 1$ 5$ or 11$ but nothing in between.

My suggestion would be a PKO or just normal KO 2$ or 3$ (the 1$ KO at 19:00 always reaches double its guarentee).

A 2$ or 3$ deepstack somewhere at 18:00 possible?

a solid 2$/3$/4$ turbo around 21:00 maybe?

I'm pretty sure these would do very well and are very low risk for party to implement.

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+1, find it hard to believe its so hard to create a FTP/Stars/Winamax/ACR-kind of software (as all of them are/were somewhat legit).

Id take 2007 stars client over 2017 party every day and twice on sundays. Genuinely confused why they are so backwards in this area. Everyone hates stars you have the high ground in regards to where people would rather play if given a choice between similar clients. Hurry up and sort it have been promised SOON for ages. Really hope this end of year client update is all that has been promised.