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09-24-2017 , 10:25 PM
i also agree that phase MTTs on party are joke

how can phase MTT will be actualy phase MTT when you are allowing players to directly buy in into final phase with 100bb + option to reenter, lol

plus in phases 1 people play extra 4 or 6 lvl (?) and then final phase is starting/roled back those 4-6 lvl, so guess when you get last lvl in phase1 and you have like 20-30bb corect strategy should be to use use time/stall as much as possible and big stacks should abuse this and play like satelite and is very hard/unlikely that you will get 100bb stack for final phase (so i dont see any fun and motivation for someone top play phase one)

Last edited by Re8uZ; 09-24-2017 at 10:35 PM. Reason: btw I am always buying directly in final phase because is absurdly stupid to grind phase 1 imo
09-25-2017 , 05:28 AM
I did make the money in the $11 championship and the structure did get a lot better. The median stack after about 3 or 4 hours was around 25bbs (average 30bbs) which is just too low, turns into a crapfesty.
09-25-2017 , 07:44 AM
i feel like the large starting stacks of 30k and 50k is too much, especially in the large fields where players have million chip stacks still with thousands of players left, it doesn't look or feel right to me. I think the larger stacks work better with live poker but not so much with online.
09-25-2017 , 09:26 AM
-1 big chips are awesome
09-25-2017 , 11:28 AM
I love the phases and big starting stacks. Would love to see a weekly 1k phase and monthly 5k phase. I also think tuesdays and thursdays could use something special, a 1k or 2k would do great I think. Make it 8max/6max every other week
09-25-2017 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ORLY???
I love the phases and big starting stacks. Would love to see a weekly 1k phase and monthly 5k phase. I also think tuesdays and thursdays could use something special, a 1k or 2k would do great I think. Make it 8max/6max every other week
Are you playing phase 1 or buying into final phase with 100bb directly???
09-26-2017 , 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
About PLO8, a quick suggestion:

$11 PLO8 @19.00 CET 2 re-entry, 10 min blinds and $1000 guaranteed for a start (maybe $2k for Sundays)
$109 PLO8 @19.00 CET 2 re-entry, 12 min blinds and $3000 guaranteed for a start (maybe $5k for Sundays)

If $109 launches it'll never overlay. Just keep it try, it's effectively a freeroll for you. To tell the truth I would never early register but always late register it, like O8 but don't like playing it very deepstacked. That's why I am not actually personally against hyper speed / turbo speed O8 but daily main event could be regular speed.

+++++


do some more o8 and finally add nlo8! do some 11/22/55 nlo8 pko- start with smth like 500grd and u ill see it getting big pretty fast.
and some more 11/22/55/109 plo8
and a weekend special

even 888 has a saturday 55 plo8.

some o8 regs ill join party finally. o8 cashgame traffic ill also be more then.

on sites like stars o8 mtts are even bigger than plo and there are way more o8 mtt regs then plo.
09-26-2017 , 09:10 AM
More Freezeouts and less re-entry events for the next series please and no copy paste identical mtts everyday. Stars series are much more exciting because there is a new unique big event everyday.

More variety of buyins.

Lobby is a huge mess on Party, the major events doesnt feel as special as they should because of all these random stuff in the lobby.

Last edited by DBerglin; 09-26-2017 at 09:18 AM.
09-26-2017 , 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by DBerglin
More Freezeouts and less re-entry events for the next series please and no copy paste identical mtts everyday. Stars series are much more exciting because there is a new unique big event everyday.

More variety of buyins.

Lobby is a huge mess on Party, the major events doesnt feel as special as they should because of all these random stuff in the lobby.
+1
09-26-2017 , 01:01 PM
Think the phases are pretty good and give everyone a chance to play in these big events. Prefer having phases over satellites as the phase 1's play out much more interestingly than a satellite.
And good job on powerfest, great to see that the tournaments are growing so fast and can hopefully compete with stars soon obviously some things should still be improved, like more diversity in formats and buyins but it's already a huge improvement compared to a year ago imo.
09-26-2017 , 01:31 PM
I think major problem with phases is that if you play it from phase 1, only like top1-2% reaches the money and bubble is like 25x your original buy-in. It's like worst nightmare from bankroll perspective.
09-26-2017 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by firgli
Think the phases are pretty good and give everyone a chance to play in these big events. Prefer having phases over satellites as the phase 1's play out much more interestingly than a satellite.
And good job on powerfest, great to see that the tournaments are growing so fast and can hopefully compete with stars soon obviously some things should still be improved, like more diversity in formats and buyins but it's already a huge improvement compared to a year ago imo.
Hmm so u prefer to play phase to a MTT where someone can directly buy in with 100bb and after playing for 5-6 hours or w/e of that phase and outlasting like 80-90% of field you will qualify for that MTT with 20-30bb
instead of playing satellites where when you win ticket/qualify for the target MTT you start the target MTT with same stack/amount of BB that player who directly buy in will start

[ ]smart
09-26-2017 , 04:50 PM
who's idea was it to run the 25k high roller on tuesday after wcoop and powerfest? obviously people will be burned out at this point, currently has 1.000.000$ in overlay. maybe should have put that money towards improving the daily schedule instead
09-26-2017 , 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Azoxy
who's idea was it to run the 25k high roller on tuesday after wcoop and powerfest? obviously people will be burned out at this point, currently has 1.000.000$ in overlay. maybe should have put that money towards improving the daily schedule instead
Unlikely that there's any overlay, it still has like over 2 hours of latereg left.
09-26-2017 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
Unlikely that there's any overlay, it still has like over 2 hours of latereg left.
do you think 40 people will late reg a 25k ? hmm, time will tell but i doubt it.
09-26-2017 , 06:15 PM
Looking tight but might make it. Can register with 16 bigs just keep getting the players with more money than sense onto the site should do fine!
09-26-2017 , 07:50 PM
Made it.

But either someone screwed up big time or Party has started to relabel tournaments which on other sites would fall on "deepstack" category as turbos:



Please fix it with 6 min blinds for tomorrow. I really need to get some sleep. Or if you insist on keeping 8 min blind levels please move it 1 hour earlier, there's no tournament starting at that slot.
09-26-2017 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Re8uZ
Hmm so u prefer to play phase to a MTT where someone can directly buy in with 100bb and after playing for 5-6 hours or w/e of that phase and outlasting like 80-90% of field you will qualify for that MTT with 20-30bb
instead of playing satellites where when you win ticket/qualify for the target MTT you start the target MTT with same stack/amount of BB that player who directly buy in will start

[ ]smart
If you don't like playing the phases just buy in directly yourself.
09-27-2017 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ORLY???
If you don't like playing the phases just buy in directly yourself.
Wtf. There was no hint in the lobby of the Phase 1's that this isnt a normal phase like you would expect it. If I had known that this will become essentially a 55$ mtt I wouldnt have played it. I was looking for a micro with a potential huge prizepool. A 55$ where all the regs can reg into and get a 100b starting stack is another ballpark. But since you are asking for a weekly 1k or 2k mtt you probably dont care about small/microstakes players.
09-27-2017 , 05:29 AM
I mean it does say so in the lobby innit ....???
09-27-2017 , 05:35 AM
It didnt or I am dumb. On Stars you also can directly click on the mtt in the phase 1 lobby you are playing for. After I finished day 1 I looked for phase 2 and couldnt find it at first because there was no 5$ phase 2. I only found it when I saw a 55$ mtt I was registered for. Not ideal.
09-27-2017 , 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ORLY???
If you don't like playing the phases just buy in directly yourself.
of course i am buying directly at final phases that i want to play (i can imagine that u do the same and that obv is best approach)

i was just saying that phase MTTs @party are not actually phase MTTs but just bad gimmicks (mix of worse attributes of phase MTTs and satellites)
09-27-2017 , 07:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Azoxy
who's idea was it to run the 25k high roller on tuesday after wcoop and powerfest? obviously people will be burned out at this point, currently has 1.000.000$ in overlay. maybe should have put that money towards improving the daily schedule instead
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Originally Posted by Azoxy
do you think 40 people will late reg a 25k ? hmm, time will tell but i doubt it.
There was sound reasoning behind moving the SHR to the 26th and it surpassed guarantee


All - regarding the feedback above mostly concerning phased/PLO I have shared comments with the relevant team for review
09-27-2017 , 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
Made it.

But either someone screwed up big time or Party has started to relabel tournaments which on other sites would fall on "deepstack" category as turbos:
[...]
Today the Uppercut II and Eliminator II even have over 4 hours of late reg. Cant really understand, why you make the structure of the night tournaments that slow. I guess a lot Players from Europe will skip it now. Would make much more sense to make the night tournaments faster than the day tournaments. Please Change it back.
09-27-2017 , 09:08 AM
It's not for European players, you ever think of that?

      
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