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07-02-2017 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mystic
As predicted, at least one of the accounts in the top two positions on the medium Leaderboard has played over 72 hours straight.

Party should switch back to Daily Leaderboards (with constant small amount of points for all non-itm as previously suggested, to avoid stalling) so non-cheaters have a chance.

Not sure why you were asking Pads what to do with the Leaderboards as pretty sure he has never attempted to win a Leaderboard nor has any of his stable.
What's frustrating is some of these guys won back-to-back 24h leaderboards as well and nothing was done.
07-02-2017 , 03:36 PM
Where is 500t HR?
07-02-2017 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by the4bettingmonk
What's frustrating is some of these guys won back-to-back 24h leaderboards as well and nothing was done.
At least then some other people had a chance.

Not sure how high roller out this week, but it's clear that low / mid leaderboards are a total and utter failure. If stucking at those for a while they would probably benefit a lot from far more flatter prize structure, like 1-5 getting 1050 tickets and 6-10 3x 109 or so.

I would vote to bring back earlier daily leaderboards with fixed amount of points for non-cash finishing positions.

E: I won't be playing this high leaderboard next week, possibly not for rest of the summer promotion. Partially other reasons, but risk+grind isn't worth of a reward as it's really hard to get top5 and other prizes are virtually nothing.
07-02-2017 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
At least then some other people had a chance.

Not sure how high roller out this week, but it's clear that low / mid leaderboards are a total and utter failure. If stucking at those for a while they would probably benefit a lot from far more flatter prize structure, like 1-5 getting 1050 tickets and 6-10 3x 109 or so.

I would vote to bring back earlier daily leaderboards with fixed amount of points for non-cash finishing positions.

E: I won't be playing this high leaderboard next week, possibly not for rest of the summer promotion. Partially other reasons, but risk+grind isn't worth of a reward as it's really hard to get top5 and other prizes are virtually nothing.
I actually decided to email the diamond club to try and bring back daily leaderboard - mentioned the cheating also. diamondclub@partypoker.com definitely worth an email! If enough people mention the cheating I think they may change it back.

edit: went with diamond club because they're waay faster

Last edited by the4bettingmonk; 07-02-2017 at 06:46 PM.
07-02-2017 , 08:01 PM
It's mindblowing to me that any leaderboard ever isn't based on best X scores. If you run weekly leaderboards: best 10 scores count. Such a simple fix, gives everyone a chance, incentivizes you not to stall and to just go for the win and if I play a bit better and get a bit luckier I can sometimes win a package over players who play 12+ hours every day. Or mabye even a non-professional player can play 3 nights in a week, run hotter than the sun and win a package!?

I don't know what's going on anymore. Even giving packages away randomly at the tables is miles kilometers better than this. I'm not touching any 109s with a guarantee <40k with a 10 foot 3 meter pole. Maybe I'm alone in that, but that can't be the idea behind giving away a metric ton of money.

Last edited by Soepgroente; 07-02-2017 at 08:13 PM. Reason: metric system
07-02-2017 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by the4bettingmonk
Can confirm the 72 hrs claims after looking at sharkscope.
Just to mention, screennames of the very suspicious accounts, which seem to dont need to sleep and therefor will win the low/medium leaderboards are:
ThatsSoSad
Tunaru88
mochalov13

Really hope, that the support will look into those accounts and will only reward the winners who actually deserved it.
Not sure for every of those accounts (lobbies for low and midstakes disappear pretty fast), but I think espacially for Tunaru88 its pretty obvious, that he grinded non-stop way longer than every single human could.
07-02-2017 , 08:55 PM
Hey, we are looking into everything.
07-02-2017 , 09:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soepgroente
It's mindblowing to me that any leaderboard ever isn't based on best X scores. If you run weekly leaderboards: best 10 scores count.
Basic problem would still be that some if not packages would go to major binkers: ME / TF winner would certainly got a package at high one. You win 50k so people don't feel so great about getting package in addition too, while getting great runs with lots of wins / deepruns at small / midfield tournaments with +10k week or so might not be enough.

If it's not possible to make fixed amount of points for non-cash finishing positions (there might be some software limitations) then I would probably see best alternative to make it so that only tournaments which start between 12:00 CET and 00:00 CET count for leaderboard. Weekly with cashes counting or daily with all results counting.

Whatever you do make a quick fix for next week if nothing else and make low / mid LBs far more flatter.
07-03-2017 , 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
Basic problem would still be that some if not packages would go to major binkers: ME / TF winner would certainly got a package at high one. You win 50k so people don't feel so great about getting package in addition too, while getting great runs with lots of wins / deepruns at small / midfield tournaments with +10k week or so might not be enough.
You could easily set it up so that 10 decent finishes will be worth more points than 1 win and 9 bad ones. And the whole point of my post was to encourage a system where the guy who plays 12 hours a day, lateregs and stalls or even cheats isn't rewarded, the average ME winner would be a better way to spend your promotional money.
07-03-2017 , 10:09 AM
+1 mtt schedule could be achieveing so much more
07-03-2017 , 04:39 PM
I brought up the issues with the weekly leaderboards and possible breach of terms and conditions with diamondclub@partypoker.com and received a prompt response from their management asking for further details. Hopefully a few people could pass their concerns onto them.

If anyone wants to post proof from sharkscope of the cheating that'd be good too. An investigation has been opened afaik.
07-04-2017 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by the4bettingmonk
I brought up the issues with the weekly leaderboards and possible breach of terms and conditions with diamondclub@partypoker.com and received a prompt response from their management asking for further details. Hopefully a few people could pass their concerns onto them.

If anyone wants to post proof from sharkscope of the cheating that'd be good too. An investigation has been opened afaik.
Please keep us updated, when they tell you, if their investigation came to the result, that these accounts did account sharing. I`m the guy, who reached a place behind the package places, so I am highly interested in updates about this issue. Btw only reason that i kept playing low and medium was, that I trust in the partypoker support to exclude players, when they come to the result, that there was account sharing.
07-04-2017 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mico93
Please keep us updated, when they tell you, if their investigation came to the result, that these accounts did account sharing. I`m the guy, who reached a place behind the package places, so I am highly interested in updates about this issue. Btw only reason that i kept playing low and medium was, that I trust in the partypoker support to exclude players, when they come to the result, that there was account sharing.
Well if you have the time I'd suggest copying any sharkscope data that indicates account sharing. I didn't provide evidence in my emails as I'm caught for time. Timestamps from sharkscope could help. At least email diamondclub so there aware it's a wide issue.

I think a fully compiled report with sharkscope data and timestamps would really help.
07-04-2017 , 06:00 PM
This week looks crazier not much of an effort being made to keep up appearances. Tunaru88 playing for 37 hrs so far and I can't make out too many breaks!
07-04-2017 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by the4bettingmonk
Well if you have the time I'd suggest copying any sharkscope data that indicates account sharing. I didn't provide evidence in my emails as I'm caught for time. Timestamps from sharkscope could help. At least email diamondclub so there aware it's a wide issue.

I think a fully compiled report with sharkscope data and timestamps would really help.
Already contacted diamond club skype via skype. I guess copy of sharkscope is not needed as the support should have their own database to look it up... thanks for the advice though
07-05-2017 , 12:46 AM
less PSKO's pls, esp these low guarantee ones. No incentive to late reg a psko other than leaderboard points -it's all a ponzi scheme, without leaderboards these would die fast. Big guarantee brawls at prime time are perfectly fine though and have potential to grow.
07-05-2017 , 06:23 AM
lol 37 hours
07-05-2017 , 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by the_bridler
lol 37 hours
Make that 53 hours now with no break longer than 35 mins or so.
07-05-2017 , 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by the4bettingmonk
Make that 53 hours now with no break longer than 35 mins or so.
Come on Party change the Leaderboards back to daily from next week, this is ridiculous.
07-05-2017 , 04:10 PM
Are the leaderboards there to incentivise pros to put in volume or to attract casuals to come and play ? Who ever they are for they seem to be doing neither as at the moment it's just a competition to see who can get 2/3 people to play on one account.

It would seem that top 5-10 results per day/week would work better as would the points system being made up only final table scores or top 5% etc as to not effect the games themselves too much.

I play a lot of mtts on party but I would say the leaderboard has left me pretty underwhelmed.

Also +1 to less PSKO's

I am a party fan and appreciate all the changes you have made but feel this needs looking at, have you thought about having 5 regs who play there a lot to give advice like the old pokerstars ( apart from Pads who is obviously qualified).

Cheers
07-05-2017 , 11:04 PM
Hi guys, tunaru88 here. I am ready to provide partypokers support any information about when and how I was sleeping if necessary. It is very easy to check. Sharkscope is not a good way because it doesn't track time of tournament bustout
07-06-2017 , 01:02 AM
Leaderboard idea: Top 10 weekly results and removing the top score (outlier)
07-06-2017 , 06:59 AM
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...hread-1674398/

for those who havent seen yet
07-06-2017 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by gausspoker
not sure if this was answered before. Is there a date for the launch of the new software?
Hopefully in the next few weeks
I will share more info when possible - first stage will be an improved lobby layout, functionality and darker theme


Quote:
Originally Posted by the4bettingmonk
Someone should make a post about why daily leaderboard is better and supporters just copy and send the post to support@partypoker. No point in sending different opinions etc. They're obviously not going to run a weekly leaderboard correctly.

Think emailing support is our only option now if Colette is gone for a week. If support gets a bunch of emails from regs all saying the same thing they may change the leaderboard.

Can confirm the 72 hrs claims after looking at sharkscope.
Hiya - all feedback regarding the current leaderboards has been noted and its currently under review with the poker teams
Any changes, news or updates I will be sure to share ASAP
I am back from my trek and will be back in the office Monday
07-06-2017 , 03:23 PM
22$ 4k from 13:00ET is crushing the GTD every day and gtd still de same, increase it and the pool will grow tgt

      
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