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08-13-2018 , 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by xLAGERTHAx

The MTT's you mentioned are equal in quickness to other sites 'Hyper turbos' and your saying that "these are no way fast/turbo"...What do you consider to be 'fast' then?
You really can't compare them like that. No other site has such meaningless blind levels like "1,87K/3,75K/425".

Party has about 2x-3x more levels than any other site, so effectively 3 min blinds of party are like 6 min-8 min blinds on any other site. And 4 min levels are roughly as fast as regular tournaments on other sites.
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08-13-2018 , 10:25 PM
Yes other sites turbo structures are a bit longer. The issue though is partypoker levels are very slow. Why are the levels going from like 1000/2000 to like 1150/2300 etc?


These fast/bounty hunter fast tournaments take 5.5 hours to complete. A Hot tournament on stars with 2000+ players take even faster than a party fast tournament with a lot less players.


I did not know that reentries were removed. That does make sense.
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08-13-2018 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
You really can't compare them like that. No other site has such meaningless blind levels like "1,87K/3,75K/425".

Party has about 2x-3x more levels than any other site, so effectively 3 min blinds of party are like 6 min-8 min blinds on any other site. And 4 min levels are roughly as fast as regular tournaments on other sites.
Fair point...my bad.
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08-13-2018 , 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
You really can't compare them like that. No other site has such meaningless blind levels like "1,87K/3,75K/425".

Party has about 2x-3x more levels than any other site, so effectively 3 min blinds of party are like 6 min-8 min blinds on any other site. And 4 min levels are roughly as fast as regular tournaments on other sites.



100% correct. 3min equals 6min mpre or less... so fast = turbo, not hyper
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08-13-2018 , 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulyJames200x
Yes other sites turbo structures are a bit longer. The issue though is partypoker levels are very slow. Why are the levels going from like 1000/2000 to like 1150/2300 etc?


These fast/bounty hunter fast tournaments take 5.5 hours to complete. A Hot tournament on stars with 2000+ players take even faster than a party fast tournament with a lot less players.


I did not know that reentries were removed. That does make sense.

They think it s the future of poker. To bore the player base as much as they can trying to put what is great in a live setting to online.... Guess why the amount of loyal customer never improves....
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08-14-2018 , 03:59 AM


i love your Humor mangeTaSuer! and the mostly truth in it.

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...and not every bountyhunter should be without re-entry.
my idea : 1 day with 1 day without.

sometimes it's nice to have 1 re-entry!...from my view:

i Play at first with bigger risk...and if i bust i can make a break...go to kitchen etc....overthink my game...and come later back with a second Chance...i like that!(and the prizepool is bigger...!big Point FOR re-entry's.)

not endless re-entrys!.....but 1 or maybe 2 is fine.

without re-entry is cool too , but a different game.

i want both- changing from day to day is perfect.

Last edited by florianger; 08-14-2018 at 04:10 AM.
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08-14-2018 , 04:17 AM
to the structures:

starting stacks: 3k 5k Standard 10k for some Special's and 15k or 20/25k for main Events- this would be nice! but it's said, and the discussion is over, i believe.
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08-14-2018 , 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by florianger


i love your Humor mangeTaSuer! and the mostly truth in it.

-----------

...and not every bountyhunter should be without re-entry.
my idea : 1 day with 1 day without.

sometimes it's nice to have 1 re-entry!...from my view:

i Play at first with bigger risk...and if i bust i can make a break...go to kitchen etc....overthink my game...and come later back with a second Chance...i like that!(and the prizepool is bigger...!big Point FOR re-entry's.)

not endless re-entrys!.....but 1 or maybe 2 is fine.

without re-entry is cool too , but a different game.

i want both- changing from day to day is perfect.
What meals do you cook during your sessions Mr Florianger?
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08-14-2018 , 05:34 AM
...i know you are trolling me

...but for the fun i answer

mostly Pasta...everything in it fresh...(fast done, many different variations and healthy-mostly).sometimes chicken with Rice and such things.
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08-14-2018 , 08:06 AM
Did partypoker remove the 1k?
It's not in the lobby today.
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08-14-2018 , 08:43 AM
I thought Party + Patrick Leonard promised us that tournaments wouldn't be changed, at least within few hours notice. But for some reason (we all know, to combat overlay) early edition tournament was changed 55$ -> 109$ buy-in this morning.

Last night:



Now:



Unethical imo. Untrustworthy as well.
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08-14-2018 , 10:23 AM
You highlighted different tournaments, the Early Edition-M and -H.
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08-14-2018 , 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by vvtinu
You highlighted different tournaments, the Early Edition-M and -H.
They are the same tournament. I did check all "high" buy-in tournaments which nowadays show all 55$+ which counts for high leaderboard.

They just changed buy-in and there's no 55$ event running at that spot anymore. I guess software automatically assigns -H and -M depending on old limits when 109+ was high event and 22-55 medium.
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08-14-2018 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
They are the same tournament. I did check all "high" buy-in tournaments which nowadays show all 55$+ which counts for high leaderboard.

They just changed buy-in and there's no 55$ event running at that spot anymore. I guess software automatically assigns -H and -M depending on old limits when 109+ was high event and 22-55 medium.
Do you actually believe that they changed the buyin of a tournament, changed its name from -M to -H, not just today but for the rest of the week to avoid paying a couple of thousand (at worst case scenario) of overlay? Like, in your ****ed up, damaged, conspiracy theory filled brain, do you truly think this happened to avoid paying today's potential overlay as opposed to a pre-thought decision of just keeping early editions at 33/109 buyins? Also, you do know that when a change is decided to be made and is implemented, there will be a point in time when it first shows up in the client where it will appear "sudden", right?
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08-14-2018 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Alexo
Do you actually believe that they changed the buyin of a tournament, changed its name from -M to -H, not just today but for the rest of the week to avoid paying a couple of thousand (at worst case scenario) of overlay? Like, in your ****ed up, damaged, conspiracy theory filled brain, do you truly think this happened to avoid paying today's potential overlay as opposed to a pre-thought decision of just keeping early editions at 33/109 buyins? Also, you do know that when a change is decided to be made and is implemented, there will be a point in time when it first shows up in the client where it will appear "sudden", right?
Of course they did it as a last-second decision to prevent overlay.

And that earlier print screen from tournament schedule was taken 13 hours (checked timestamp) before tournament started (55$) and it was changed to after that to 109$, so it wasn't pre-thought decision or at least wasn't implemented as so. E: And it was done probably under 7 hours notice since I didn't notice it last night.

Learn to read and understand and you really should learn how to behave if you don't like to appear as a complete fool. Although it is certainly hard if you haven't done so already.
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08-14-2018 , 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Alexo
Do you actually believe that they changed the buyin of a tournament, changed its name from -M to -H, not just today but for the rest of the week to avoid paying a couple of thousand (at worst case scenario) of overlay? Like, in your ****ed up, damaged, conspiracy theory filled brain, do you truly think this happened to avoid paying today's potential overlay as opposed to a pre-thought decision of just keeping early editions at 33/109 buyins? Also, you do know that when a change is decided to be made and is implemented, there will be a point in time when it first shows up in the client where it will appear "sudden", right?
Might I also add a site that has more than willing to splash out on overlays time and time again as well....
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08-14-2018 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
Of course they did it as a last-second decision to prevent overlay.
Of course they did. You're just delusional. Pre-thought doesn't mean they planned for it 2 months ago, but rather they saw how it was performing and decided to change it. You're even saying it yourself that it happened a significant number of hours before the tournament started - it wasn't a last minute change because general participation was down. Since it is a daily tournament, then whenever the change was implemented would obviously be close to the next day's starting time, wouldn't it? But yeah, I certainly appear like a complete fool.
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08-14-2018 , 12:26 PM
I dont think they're changing them last minute for any reason in particular. They've changed a couple of the off-peak 55s to 109s in the new schedule. It's just poor planning that they can't get the schedule changed in the lobby further in advance. The 1k bounty wasn't in the schedule last night either.

America's main event plays a lot better as a 109 with the faster structure (i think). I hope it doesn't get changed back to a 55 because it overlayed the first couple of days. I imagine a lot of people who might play it ended their sessions early the past couple days when stars went down.

On another note, I think the 6max early bounty hunter would get a better field if you swap it for one of the other bounty hunters. A lot of people want to late reg the early stuff with it being 6-max, more of the field is busted when people are logging in, discouraging people from regging a BH
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08-14-2018 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tl65\
It's just poor planning that they can't get the schedule changed in the lobby further in advance. The 1k bounty wasn't in the schedule last night either.
You're right, I didn't notice 1k PKO before you posted. Proves my point even more.

If schedule would be properly executed I would switch Early rebuy (13 CET) which was overlaying with 6-max deepstack (15 CET) which launches 2 hours later. Most people would like to latereg first one at the same time as they launch their session, but now that late registration is very short (1,5 hours).
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08-14-2018 , 04:44 PM
Did they really change all the structures to smooth? I stopped playing PKO's because they were all smooth structures. What was wrong with your regular structures? Changes every month. It's beyond ridiculous now.
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08-14-2018 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by -UBetIFold-
Did they really change all the structures to smooth? I stopped playing PKO's because they were all smooth structures. What was wrong with your regular structures? Changes every month. It's beyond ridiculous now.
Sadly yes, wonder what's their reasoning.
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08-14-2018 , 08:07 PM
@party
wtf is the point with those 9% increment of blind lvl every 6 minutes in all mtts and 100k starting stacks???

i really cant understand the logic and reasoning behind it.
like seriously you think that is cool "thing"?? who come up with that idea??
do you really think is fun for somebody to calculate how many BB and how much "M" his 124580 stack is at 39k/78k/9.35k lvl???
do you realize how absurd, ******ed and confusing stack sizes and blind lvls look like???

can someone explain to me please what are the benefits of using those structures and what is the reasoning behind it??? i really cant understand it.

i think most multi sites/multitabling reggs hate this, and from discussions i have with some fun players the reasons they all dont like to play on party is ****y software obv and this confusing weird blind lvls
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08-14-2018 , 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Re8uZ
@party
wtf is the point with those 9% increment of blind lvl every 6 minutes in all mtts and 100k starting stacks???

i really cant understand the logic and reasoning behind it.
like seriously you think that is cool "thing"?? who come up with that idea??
do you really think is fun for somebody to calculate how many BB and how much "M" his 124580 stack is at 39k/78k/9.35k lvl???
do you realize how absurd, ******ed and confusing stack sizes and blind lvls look like???

can someone explain to me please what are the benefits of using those structures and what is the reasoning behind it??? i really cant understand it.

i think most multi sites/multitabling reggs hate this, and from discussions i have with some fun players the reasons they all dont like to play on party is ****y software obv and this confusing weird blind lvls

Yes, Leonard thinks it s cool, hum. It s really ridiculous. Smooth increases i get it in a live tourneys, for online i don t see any benefits....
Second, there were promises of seeing stack per BB in february, but as for schedule, there are clueless in software development, so all incompetency combined, we have this piss poor 2018 schedule.... sad
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08-14-2018 , 11:13 PM
These party poker tournaments are ridiculous with those blind levels. Did they even had this previously for their regular tournaments?


Calculating even raise size is stupid because of this whether you want to make it 2.x or 2.5x etc.
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08-15-2018 , 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulyJames200x
These party poker tournaments are ridiculous with those blind levels. Did they even had this previously for their regular tournaments?


Calculating even raise size is stupid because of this whether you want to make it 2.x or 2.5x etc.
Other thing is it flatten the overall strategy. No point to be aggro at early stage with so much chips and meaningless jump on blinds
= boring games
= waiting to be shallow for 3hrs
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