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Old 05-22-2018, 05:29 AM   #1701
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

It's not cosmetic changes mate, the software is hard to use at times for many. Main lobby is a mess hard to navigate. Tournament lobbies break from time to time. 2-day tournaments if I'm not mistaken are nowhere to be found due to technical difficulties. You can't post a screenshot from 2007 and claim that it was enough. It was enough 10 years ago and was probably functional.
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Old 05-22-2018, 08:54 AM   #1702
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

It's official!
Our next series is just around the corner kicking off on June 3rd with $10 Million up for grabs in our new KO Series...

https://www.partypoker.com/blog/part...10th-june.html

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Old 05-22-2018, 10:47 AM   #1703
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

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Again, may I remind you that during the early poker boom days we played on tables like this:



No 4color deck, no customization.. and people were still willing to play because there was huge money to be made.

Maaaybe you're crying on a very high level and promo money is actually better spent than making cosmetic changes for you OCD people.
There's a lot of nonsense on this forum, but this stands out. You're basically saying you're OCD if you'd prefer a new iphone or galaxy s382 or whatever the newest thing is instead of a phone that looks like this



Yeah, if it's that phone or nothing I'll use that phone. Tech is advancing rapidly though, and there's not much of a reason to not use a better phone. I gave my 5 year old galaxy S4 away to my mom when I got the S7 and even the phone I gave away for free is much better.

In this metaphor, the 2007 party software is like this phone. The 2017 software is obviously better but still kinda like the 2007 phone. Why would a guy who plays poker for fun play poker with mediocre software instead of hearthstone or something else? Literally the only reason is money. The absolute best advertising you can do is have a shiny and smooth product with lots of interesting features and giving players a great experience. This means you have a software that is on par or at least somewhat close to competition from other fields and then the real money gambling part will put it over the top. Just like in 2007. Party certainly has the budget for it, but it's currently being spent to give some 500$+ buyin regular his 7th 10k package.

And yes, people who play poker for a living care much less on a personal level. They much more frequently use third party apps to make their playing experience better (hotkeys, improved looks) than the random 50 year old restaurant owner who likes to kick back and play poker once a week. It's that guy who you want to impress, he'll tell his friends and then and only then will party outgrow pokerstars.

As I wrote earlier in this topic, even if we don't care about eyecandy at all and go for something super basic but functional, the software is slow, buggy and lacks many features I would consider to be extremely basic/standard 5 years ago for a site the size of party poker.

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Old 05-22-2018, 12:35 PM   #1704
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

Please be aware we have planned maintenance between 09:00CET - 10:00CET, Wednesday 23rd May

All services will not be available during this period, and you will notice a change in our regular schedule prior to the downtime

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Old 05-22-2018, 04:09 PM   #1705
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

why 530 are 6 max pko and 1k are 9 max smooth?? https://www.partypoker.com/blog/part...10th-june.html
why dont make it :
one week 530 6max 1k smooth
and other week 530 smooth 1k 6 max???
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Old 05-22-2018, 04:30 PM   #1706
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

I really don't want anything to be smooth. You should get rid of these pointless structures.
Also these 200BB starting deepstacks are atrocious. It just takes so long to get ITM and afterwards you are playing 30BB avg, because the structure is exactly the same as regular tournaments. Payout structures with 1/25 buy-in jumps aren't the best either.
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Old 05-22-2018, 04:51 PM   #1707
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

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Two things from Monday:

1) First 55$ tourament of the day was once again changed within few hours of beginning without any notice. Blind levels were changed from 12 min -> 15 min (not sure if other changes).

2) There is still no hand-for-hand for tournaments which pay for 9 players. Just playin Amuricas second chance 10 left no hand-for-hand, but there will be when we are all at the money for FT (8-handed).

There's lots of thing at wrong side @ Party MTTs currently, but there's one simple solution to start how to fix them:

- REMOVE PADS FROM MTT TEAM!
Yeah those are bad problems. Pads not going anywhere tho after how well Powerfest went - guarantees beaten handily enough. KO tournament will be a success too with the lower rake. And in between those leaderboards will be running so less drop in the volume for players in summer.

Hopefully Party can continue to experiment with PKOs. There are some inherent problems with the format imo. Lowering the rake helps a lot however.
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Old 05-22-2018, 05:32 PM   #1708
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

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There's a lot of nonsense on this forum, but this stands out. You're basically saying you're OCD if you'd prefer a new iphone or galaxy s382 or whatever the newest thing is instead of a phone that looks like this



Yeah, if it's that phone or nothing I'll use that phone. Tech is advancing rapidly though, and there's not much of a reason to not use a better phone. I gave my 5 year old galaxy S4 away to my mom when I got the S7 and even the phone I gave away for free is much better.

In this metaphor, the 2007 party software is like this phone. The 2017 software is obviously better but still kinda like the 2007 phone. Why would a guy who plays poker for fun play poker with mediocre software instead of hearthstone or something else? Literally the only reason is money. The absolute best advertising you can do is have a shiny and smooth product with lots of interesting features and giving players a great experience. This means you have a software that is on par or at least somewhat close to competition from other fields and then the real money gambling part will put it over the top. Just like in 2007. Party certainly has the budget for it, but it's currently being spent to give some 500$+ buyin regular his 7th 10k package.

And yes, people who play poker for a living care much less on a personal level. They much more frequently use third party apps to make their playing experience better (hotkeys, improved looks) than the random 50 year old restaurant owner who likes to kick back and play poker once a week. It's that guy who you want to impress, he'll tell his friends and then and only then will party outgrow pokerstars.

As I wrote earlier in this topic, even if we don't care about eyecandy at all and go for something super basic but functional, the software is slow, buggy and lacks many features I would consider to be extremely basic/standard 5 years ago for a site the size of party poker.
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Old 05-22-2018, 07:20 PM   #1709
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

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Please be aware we have planned maintenance between 09:00CET - 10:00CET, Wednesday 23rd May

All services will not be available during this period, and you will notice a change in our regular schedule prior to the downtime

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Are you going to answer the questions about the dodgy deals that some stables have? I learned of one other smaller stable that has a similar deal with party tonight. This is clearly a very big issue that requires some transparency.

Myself and many other regs that I know have some serious trust issues with party at the moment for various reasons, this being the main one by far.

I really hope that other regular posters will keep bringing up this issue until we get a proper answer.
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Old Yesterday, 01:33 AM   #1710
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

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I really don't want anything to be smooth. You should get rid of these pointless structures.
Also these 200BB starting deepstacks are atrocious. It just takes so long to get ITM and afterwards you are playing 30BB avg, because the structure is exactly the same as regular tournaments. Payout structures with 1/25 buy-in jumps aren't the best either.
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Old Yesterday, 04:08 AM   #1711
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

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I really don't want anything to be smooth. You should get rid of these pointless structures.
Also these 200BB starting deepstacks are atrocious. It just takes so long to get ITM and afterwards you are playing 30BB avg, because the structure is exactly the same as regular tournaments. Payout structures with 1/25 buy-in jumps aren't the best either.
At least the smooth structures are something different, what i don't understand is having "smooth deepstacks" and "deepstacks". If they are going to have deepstack tournaments they may aswell give all of them the smooth structure, you are right that there is no point having a deepstack tournament with the same structure as the standard tournaments, it is just delaying the tournament by a couple hours, no difference.
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Old Yesterday, 05:58 AM   #1712
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

hello,

without any worries....but i want to know the things about the stables!

how many "horses" i must expect in a lets say 1000 Player field?
thats really important for me to know!!!


i see many many Players from colombia at the Moment...stable? i see NOTHING alarming but see that many Players from this Country come from out from the nothing.

brazil is another thing- nothing really alarming but many Players with nearly exact the same strategy...same bets...same check/raise/fold Play...

one Thing to this: NO ONE can tell me "horses" wouldnt Play together or help or discuss Hands etc...I MEAN WE SPEAK ABOUT POKER...!

TO BE FAIR: in the few game i Play i see /feel nothing shady, absolut nothing!!! i still enjoy the games -but again..we speak about poker.

quick Feedback regular schedule: if i dont work my partypoker day starts at 17.00 german time!if i work my partypoker day starts at 17.00
theres NOTHING good before in the micro sector!

no one Need this smooth xxxx ! i say only in hyper Turbos (which we not get/have) this would make sense- for 8max and ESP. 6max EVERYTHING is to slow...and with the smooth structure it become to a Tortur.

-the idea/solution to bring 1 series after the other is a good Thing...(thanks for the few days break till 3.6 ko series )

what can we expect in the next patch/update end of the month?

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Old Yesterday, 11:37 AM   #1713
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

"It become to a Tortur"

Coming to a theatre near you in IMAX this fall

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Old Yesterday, 06:24 PM   #1714
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

These structures are absurd. 109 PKO easily taking 6 hours for bubble to burst, 55 deepstack 300 runners, 15 left after 9 hours of play and less than 4 buy-ins guaranteed. Smooth tournaments with 9-10 minute blinds equaling 20-30 min blinds on any other site.

No rec want to spend 10+ hours at a tournament and receive 4x mincash. Most even can't play some 12+ hours sessions. Actually one thing I think almost all recs have in common (at least those who can afford to play 55+ tournaments) is that they don't often have time for long sessions expect on maybe weekends but even then most people want to spend some time with family or friends after long week at work.

On other hand, late 55$ turbo PKO with 5 min blinds (without some stupid smooth structure) seems very nice tournament to play.
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Old Yesterday, 09:33 PM   #1715
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

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These structures are absurd. 109 PKO easily taking 6 hours for bubble to burst, 55 deepstack 300 runners, 15 left after 9 hours of play and less than 4 buy-ins guaranteed. Smooth tournaments with 9-10 minute blinds equaling 20-30 min blinds on any other site.

No rec want to spend 10+ hours at a tournament and receive 4x mincash. Most even can't play some 12+ hours sessions. Actually one thing I think almost all recs have in common (at least those who can afford to play 55+ tournaments) is that they don't often have time for long sessions expect on maybe weekends but even then most people want to spend some time with family or friends after long week at work.

On other hand, late 55$ turbo PKO with 5 min blinds (without some stupid smooth structure) seems very nice tournament to play.
all from 1pm CET till late is a pain, low stakes isn t better (7.5-22), even more absurd as the deepstack are ITM after 5hours for peanuts. Nobody plays and waits the blinds to go up to shove at 25bb deep, useless then to have a deepstack, play 6hrs and get 3x buy in . PKO s with smooth also too slow (ITM 4hrs).

PLO8 structure wrong also, no one has ven bothered to anwser to that as it s a pool of 200 players max
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Old Today, 06:13 AM   #1716
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

3.5 hours to make the money MAX shud be the standard.
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Old Today, 06:32 AM   #1717
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Yes every daily is too long
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