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Old 05-16-2018, 08:22 AM   #1676
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

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Hey, I have used a 109 Dollar-Ticket to register for a tournament on Sunday....sadly, I won't be able to play on Sunday for personal reasons. How can I change the registration to e.g. a tournament on Friday? As the ticket is expired by now I think I would lose it by simply unregistering...
Can you PM myself username please?

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Old 05-16-2018, 09:13 AM   #1677
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If this were the only issue wt replayer ......
When you say "replayer" do you refer to the antique text hand history viewer ? Cause that's not a replayer to me. (Mac user here)


Otherwise I'm delighted to see the field sizes, even though I can't really play myself because of tournament length and because of the lack of nice prize pools at the $215 level. I know you offer a 500k gtd on Sunday, but that's a PKO. And seeing how many of the championship events are PKO, I didn't even feel like trying to qualify - that's a really bad result you've achieved, as you had me playing to qualify (and playing either way) for your normal weekly schedule not long ago, and now you turned me away for a series !

But I guess you'll just ignore this, since you got the fields you wanted. Maybe that's even the correct thing to do

Anyway, I can just hope that PP will ride the wave and offer again a big gtd $215 vanilla tournament on Sunday.

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Old 05-16-2018, 09:27 AM   #1678
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

Pads himself was saying there's definitely room to improve the pko format and I definitely agree - problem is any change has to be very simple and straightforward.

Hopefully after powerfest structures will be faster again - 10/12 min blinds for low stakes stuff is a bit mad
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Old 05-16-2018, 09:36 AM   #1679
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I can't send PMs yet...
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Old 05-16-2018, 05:57 PM   #1680
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Is it allowed to use other pokertable themes from other sites or do i have to use your original pokerthemes which you offer ?
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Old 05-17-2018, 03:57 AM   #1681
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I can't send PMs yet...
I cant assist without a username
Can you reach out to the customer service teams?
All contact details can be found on the webpage

https://www.partypoker.com/contact-us.html
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Old 05-17-2018, 04:45 AM   #1682
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I cant assist without a username
Can you reach out to the customer service teams?
All contact details can be found on the webpage

https://www.partypoker.com/contact-us.html
They did not really understand my problem...

My username is ******

Thank you very much for your help!

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Old 05-17-2018, 08:37 AM   #1683
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They did not really understand my problem...

My username is ******

Thank you very much for your help!
This has been resolved
I un registered you manually and re-added a ticket to use FRIDAY

Thanks and Good luck!

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Old 05-17-2018, 08:42 AM   #1684
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This has been resolved
I un registered you manually and re-added a ticket to use FRIDAY

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Thank you for the great service! Keep up the good work
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Old 05-17-2018, 09:49 PM   #1685
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

I'm getting pretty bored of hearing that everyone and his mum had a free roll from party/brs in x tournament. What the hell is going on with this? It's shady beyond description.
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Old 05-18-2018, 04:04 AM   #1686
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I'm getting pretty bored of hearing that everyone and his mum had a free roll from party/brs in x tournament. What the hell is going on with this? It's shady beyond description.
Was the exact relationship between the two ever cleared up by a party Rep, and if not maybe Colette could address it here?

I went through the lobby for the 25k and at least five people who qualified in 2,6k hyper sats are affiliated with that stable. There isn't anything wrong with that in itself but it seems so peculiar given that none of those satellites that I looked at were overlaying. Also seeing staked players with abi of 90$ firing three $2600 hyper sats in a row is pretty uncommon when they were playing a $33 Bounty Hunter the day before, at least from any stable I have ever seen.

I can see several other ones I strongly suspect are with that stable played $2600 hyper sats as well without qualifying. From what I can see the common denominators are:

1) their most common game types are satellites by far
2) when sorting through most common opponents there seems to be a fair amount of overlay
3) their ABI is usually $100 or less (maybe more after yesterday) so firing $2600 hyper sats into one of the toughest tournaments of the year sticks out, even if they are satellite specialists.

I don't really want to draw any conclusions and i'm sure all the regs in the 25k didn't mind but it seems odd that such a big tournament that was relatively close to overlaying (I assume number of re-entries has a decent amount of variance) had one organization of players firing so hard.
Some more transparency from Party Poker on what exactly is or isn't going on here would be very much appreciated.
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Old 05-18-2018, 07:53 AM   #1687
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

how can i get in on that sweet freeroll into super high rollers deal?
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Old 05-18-2018, 09:04 AM   #1688
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how can i get in on that sweet freeroll into super high rollers deal?
The day one of your post is more than 20 words. Cheers
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Old 05-18-2018, 09:17 AM   #1689
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

I was actually quite serious. Who doesn’t wanna be put into 2k+$ buyin mtts for free?
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:46 PM   #1690
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

Mentioned it to Patrick recently but after he added rebuys the leaderboards have not been scoring them correctly.

Obviously, buy-ins for a $11 rebuy is something like $30 to $40 on average. Since the rebuys are not re-entries they should be part of the buy-in for points.

This error has gone on for over a month at least.


Regarding the stables thing that's all done through an affiliate apparently - someone like dusk til dawn. Party doesn't deal with the stables directly and with good reason.
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:50 PM   #1691
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

One thing I don't understand is how more horses haven't come forward if there are "shady" deals. Have they signed NDAs with the stables or something? Seems strange how it's never a primary source that has the info.
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Old 05-18-2018, 02:08 PM   #1692
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

cmon u have to find a way to make more clear when a tournament is 6max, just registered a 6max bounty from the start cause i see thr "bounty" icon and now i have to play a 6max that i'd late register from the start while having lot of tables
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Old 05-18-2018, 02:45 PM   #1693
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One thing I don't understand is how more horses haven't come forward if there are "shady" deals. Have they signed NDAs with the stables or something? Seems strange how it's never a primary source that has the info.
I personally know a handful of people who get these deals. Some of them do play for brs, and some just have contacts within the stable and get offered free rolls for only the biggest events. Of course they don't come out and speak about it because its obviously shady (the whole brs stable is), and why would they want to risk losing all of that free money?

Good post mement. I noticed Patrick said on twitter that party didn't put anyone in the 25k, but I guess he didn't consider the satellite free rolls worth mentioning. From the information you provided it sounds very likely that this was indeed the case.
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Old 05-19-2018, 05:05 AM   #1694
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

Fair point - also I shouldn't have put "shady" in quotation marks wasn't trying to be snarky.

That is interesting RE twitter. Remember it doesn't rule out an affiliate putting someone in the 25k (although that would be a pretty strange business arrangement)
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Old 05-20-2018, 10:11 AM   #1695
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

The final day of Powerfest and we have only 2 $55+ vanilla tournaments, all the rest is PSKO. If you wonder why I've played 90% on Stars during Powerfest/SCOOP, look no further. Just before the series it was the other way around.
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Old 05-21-2018, 02:45 PM   #1696
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Was the exact relationship between the two ever cleared up by a party Rep, and if not maybe Colette could address it here?

I went through the lobby for the 25k and at least five people who qualified in 2,6k hyper sats are affiliated with that stable. There isn't anything wrong with that in itself but it seems so peculiar given that none of those satellites that I looked at were overlaying. Also seeing staked players with abi of 90$ firing three $2600 hyper sats in a row is pretty uncommon when they were playing a $33 Bounty Hunter the day before, at least from any stable I have ever seen.

I can see several other ones I strongly suspect are with that stable played $2600 hyper sats as well without qualifying. From what I can see the common denominators are:

1) their most common game types are satellites by far
2) when sorting through most common opponents there seems to be a fair amount of overlay
3) their ABI is usually $100 or less (maybe more after yesterday) so firing $2600 hyper sats into one of the toughest tournaments of the year sticks out, even if they are satellite specialists.

I don't really want to draw any conclusions and i'm sure all the regs in the 25k didn't mind but it seems odd that such a big tournament that was relatively close to overlaying (I assume number of re-entries has a decent amount of variance) had one organization of players firing so hard.
Some more transparency from Party Poker on what exactly is or isn't going on here would be very much appreciated.
Good post and it deserves some answers... which you likely won't get.

From what I've gathered it seems that Party has a relationship with BRS (and perhaps other staking groups) where they get a ridiculously high rb% and perhaps a % of the buyin back under the agreement that their horses will fill up tourneys that are impending overlays.
The same agreement extends to Live Events as well... as John Duthie even stated on a podcast that if it looks close to an overlay they will pick up the phone and call people to play. The question was in line with questions about staking deals.

These types of relationships by Party are mainly due to setting ridiculously high guarantees on MTT's that their player base can't sustain long term. Party doesn't need gimmicks to grow and become market leader. They need good solid advertising and decent product offering and delivery.

Right now Stars is sitting on the sidelines waiting for Party to burn through their promotional spend and let themselves implode. They aren't firing back fighting for this player segment that is interested in 40 million Powerfest guarantees.
The reality is this player group isn't loyal. They are loyal only to the point that it serves them. If Party were to hold a shareholders meeting and the plug was pulled and Party reverted back to how they were 2 years ago would there really be player outrage? I don't think so, and certainly not to the extent that that there was dedicated towards Pokerstars during the Amaya years as cuts kept coming. The difference is players had brand loyalty to Stars and it hurt them on an emotional level when Stars started trimming the fat/cow. The same wouldn't occur with Party.
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Old 05-22-2018, 12:51 AM   #1697
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

Two things from Monday:

1) First 55$ tourament of the day was once again changed within few hours of beginning without any notice. Blind levels were changed from 12 min -> 15 min (not sure if other changes).

2) There is still no hand-for-hand for tournaments which pay for 9 players. Just playin Amuricas second chance 10 left no hand-for-hand, but there will be when we are all at the money for FT (8-handed).

There's lots of thing at wrong side @ Party MTTs currently, but there's one simple solution to start how to fix them:

- REMOVE PADS FROM MTT TEAM!
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Old 05-22-2018, 03:21 AM   #1698
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Good post and it deserves some answers... which you likely won't get.

From what I've gathered it seems that Party has a relationship with BRS (and perhaps other staking groups) where they get a ridiculously high rb% and perhaps a % of the buyin back under the agreement that their horses will fill up tourneys that are impending overlays.
The same agreement extends to Live Events as well... as John Duthie even stated on a podcast that if it looks close to an overlay they will pick up the phone and call people to play. The question was in line with questions about staking deals.

These types of relationships by Party are mainly due to setting ridiculously high guarantees on MTT's that their player base can't sustain long term. Party doesn't need gimmicks to grow and become market leader. They need good solid advertising and decent product offering and delivery.

Right now Stars is sitting on the sidelines waiting for Party to burn through their promotional spend and let themselves implode. They aren't firing back fighting for this player segment that is interested in 40 million Powerfest guarantees.
The reality is this player group isn't loyal. They are loyal only to the point that it serves them. If Party were to hold a shareholders meeting and the plug was pulled and Party reverted back to how they were 2 years ago would there really be player outrage? I don't think so, and certainly not to the extent that that there was dedicated towards Pokerstars during the Amaya years as cuts kept coming. The difference is players had brand loyalty to Stars and it hurt them on an emotional level when Stars started trimming the fat/cow. The same wouldn't occur with Party.
Yo Sect, I usually really value your posts, but I think you're wrong here.

I don't know when you started playing poker, but when I started (pre2006), PartyPoker was the biggest site. They had unlimited reload boni, the highest played games (FLHE back then) etc. There definitely was brand recognition and people were suuper upset when UIGEA hit and Party deliberately withdrew from the US market.

The main difference is that a) time has passed and people have forgotten, and b) back then, people had good alternatives! (namely Stars and FTP who did not withdraw)

Looking back, what happened? Stars was sold to a locust company who is turning this once great brand into trash the same way they did with OnGame (google it), first draining profits and afterwards the assets. Eventually the now-empty shell will be sold. And FTP went completely bankrupt.

Maybe withdrawing was actually the right decision, even when people back then hated it. Now Party sees an opportunity and found new owners/managers who are willing to spend some money going after it. Ofcourse loyalty and brand recognition is not yet what Stars had - but that's the point! You won't be able to take over market domination without spending some money first. Stars did the same thing with their SNE loyalty program around the time UIGEA happened.

It's insane to me that you people think there isn't enough capital behind those decisions - have you ever looked up what kind of capital bought into Party recently?

Also, Stars is not waiting things out. They simply don't care about the poker segment, and they have publicly said so. They're effectively a casino/sportsbetting site now, by design. Even if/when Party is gonna be successful and take over huge market shares from Stars' poker segment (and let's be clear here, that's what they're, quite successfully so far, attempting), Stars will not change or counter-attack. It's not in their mission statement.


We should be glad that another company with long-term vision (see UIGEA) sees the (again, long-term) opportunities presenting itself with other companies slacking off or deliberately abandoning this part of their product.

Once/If PartyPoker takes over domination over Stars again - which as things are going is just a matter of time - the loyalty and name recognition will automatically come with it.


You're oldschool, you should know to be patient and let things run out with some perspective.
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Old 05-22-2018, 03:31 AM   #1699
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With that amount money which is being pumped into promos and gtds you could really fund a nice software, surprising it's not priority.
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Old 05-22-2018, 03:39 AM   #1700
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Again, may I remind you that during the early poker boom days we played on tables like this:



No 4color deck, no customization.. and people were still willing to play because there was huge money to be made.

Maaaybe you're crying on a very high level and promo money is actually better spent than making cosmetic changes for you OCD people.
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