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05-05-2018 , 08:07 AM
Yea - having a $120k leaderboard while having $55s/$109s overlay is pretty indicative of a poor marketing campaign and weak communication between different teams.

Between overlays and leaderboard Party will gain $500k+ of liabilities on MTTs in May.

How GVC have the money to buy Coral bookmakers for $3billion+ is a headscratcher - sportsbetting and casino must be an ATM!
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05-05-2018 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by fragglerock45
Yea - having a $120k leaderboard while having $55s/$109s overlay is pretty indicative of a poor marketing campaign and weak communication between different teams.

Between overlays and leaderboard Party will gain $500k+ of liabilities on MTTs in May.

How GVC have the money to buy Coral bookmakers for $3billion+ is a headscratcher - sportsbetting and casino must be an ATM!
Overlays are well deserved when you look at what they came too just before 2 series.... deepstacks with waaay too much chips and bounty builder with a mega slow structures. Nothing else so who really play that **** all day long ?

Monster series same thing with ALL EVENTS 12min blinds leading to ITM 5hr++. Day after day all feels exactly same, the bigger 33$ are overlaying big time = Half the rec don t want that painful grind and don t launch them = overlay
It s so obvious that a monkey would see it and correct it....

All that money spent last month vanished for nothing, the core product was never stable and is worse now, no wonder and no mercy. some heads must fall ...
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05-05-2018 , 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by MangeTaSueur

All that money spent last month vanished for nothing, the core product was never stable and is worse now, no wonder and no mercy. some heads must fall ...
Doubt it. Otherwise pads would've been fired over a year ago.

And same problems started out of nowhere again bit after I started my session. And no reply from Party anywhere, skype, e-mail or here. Sitting out every tenth hand or so as these are going on, yesterday lasted for about one hour. No problem with Stars or anything. Casual day as HS MTT reg at Party.

Stay away from Party if you care about your money. They won't offer any help, be it collusion, server problems (or crashes when too much overlay is threatening) or any other problem at their end, they usually just ignore you and they never fix their mistakes afterwards and offer any reasonable refund.
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05-05-2018 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
Doubt it. Otherwise pads would've been fired over a year ago.

And same problems started out of nowhere again bit after I started my session. And no reply from Party anywhere, skype, e-mail or here. Sitting out every tenth hand or so as these are going on, yesterday lasted for about one hour. No problem with Stars or anything. Casual day as HS MTT reg at Party.

Stay away from Party if you care about your money. They won't offer any help, be it collusion, server problems (or crashes when too much overlay is threatening) or any other problem at their end, they usually just ignore you and they never fix their mistakes afterwards and offer any reasonable refund.
It s well know that the software is a major set back to seduce new player but that s even another topic by itself> Imagine if you new and the it takes literally 3 min to reach the log in page. u feel you are back to 56k modem era
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05-05-2018 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by LittleGoliath
More negativity please, that will help us all
I definitely think some of the frequent posters could phrase things more constructively but to say that a Discussion Thread is not inherently going to be about problems or trying to censor something just because it's negative seems counter-productive to the whole point of this thread.

And while it's about annoying people are posting about local disconnects and compensations i'm pretty sympathetic to that as well. I was unable to log properly in to my Party Account for five years and tried contacting support countless times with no luck. As soon as I posted it here Colette got someone on the case who fixed the issue for me in a few minutes.

I'm relatively new to the site and couldn't find the promotions page for all these leader boards everyone is talking about, could someone please point me in the right direction? (Might be a good idea to make those more visible if you want people to chase them)
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05-05-2018 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mement_mori
I'm relatively new to the site and couldn't find the promotions page for all these leader boards everyone is talking about, could someone please point me in the right direction? (Might be a good idea to make those more visible if you want people to chase them)
From main lobby -> Promotions and there's box "Powerfest Leaderboards" and separate boxes for results. Occasionally it doesn't load properly and occasionally it shows up empty @ my computer but now it is working. Showing 20 different promos for me right now, some are casino / sportsbook.

Or just this: https://www.partypoker.com/powerfest...derboards.html

Last edited by FarseerFinland; 05-05-2018 at 12:04 PM. Reason: wrong link
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05-05-2018 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by LittleGoliath
More negativity please, that will help us all
If there's one thing I'd ask from the player panel, it's to empathize with constant disconnection issues over having silly forum feuds. Negative feedback always being more vocal is not specific to 2+2 or Party but rather standard in any client-provider relationship, it's the life you've chosen.

If hearing this helps you guys sleep better then I think a fair bit of my concerns have been dealt with over the past year or so: games seem softer, schedule is better, deep stack poker is prioritized(fully aware of being biased here and I'll pour one out to all the turbo-bros), minor improvements to the software. Reducing rake by 50% for a significant part of the schedule will help too.

Most of you guys here on Party's side seem very open and helpful but I still haven't noticed a coherent response as to why you're taking all that money and sticking it into leaderboards. Like does any "secret data" support it? That you'll get more deposits as a direct result of it than you're paying out? It just seems counter-intuitive to me and I suspect that handing it out to recs would be a much better use of the promotional money(Deposit Prize Draw seems brilliant for example so props). It's very tempting to conspiratard about this. Pads' involvement may very well be a dumb idea but perhaps it has some benefit to the companies accounting side? Just some rogue higher-up who is infatuated by the idea of leaderboards for whatever reason? Idk man, I'm just looking into it.
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05-05-2018 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mement_mori
I definitely think some of the frequent posters could phrase things more constructively but to say that a Discussion Thread is not inherently going to be about problems or trying to censor something just because it's negative seems counter-productive to the whole point of this thread.

And while it's about annoying people are posting about local disconnects and compensations i'm pretty sympathetic to that as well. I was unable to log properly in to my Party Account for five years and tried contacting support countless times with no luck. As soon as I posted it here Colette got someone on the case who fixed the issue for me in a few minutes.

I'm relatively new to the site and couldn't find the promotions page for all these leader boards everyone is talking about, could someone please point me in the right direction? (Might be a good idea to make those more visible if you want people to chase them)
I was mainly talking about the same 3-5 people who are/phrase things overly negative. Yes their feedback/critic sometimes is valid, but it’s just their general tone in every single post which is super annoying. If anything, it will rather work against you and what you are trying to accomplish.
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05-05-2018 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by LittleGoliath
More negativity please, that will help us all
Do you know how many pro players have reached out to me bringing up even more concerns? Many don't post what they think because they want to keep sponsorship doors open.
Not many including yourself call a spade a spade because there's something in it for them. I'm not one of those people.
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05-05-2018 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Sect7G
Do you know how many pro players have reached out to me bringing up even more concerns? Many don't post what they think because they want to keep sponsorship doors open.
Not many including yourself call a spade a spade because there's something in it for them. I'm not one of those people.
Everyone is always welcome to post their concerns, but is it so much to ask do this in a somewhat respectable manner? I understand and sympathize with everyone’s frustrations but name calling and whatever else is not going to help your case.

Pads quit this thread because things got wildly out of hand, and this was mainly due to a select group of people who ruined it for the others. I guess you indeed reap what you sow.

Also connectivity issues, as much as they obviously suck, are not part of the player panel and should actually be mentioned in the general thread here. This thread and the panel were created to mainly deal with mtt concerns and everything that is somewhat related to that.
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05-05-2018 , 01:39 PM
Pads quit this thread because he's too sensitive for his position and he kept ignoring some part of the constructive feedback leading to frustration.
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05-05-2018 , 03:02 PM
no more ****ty no content whiny posts you guuuuuuuuuuuuys
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05-05-2018 , 03:41 PM
" It's very tempting to conspiratard about this. Pads' involvement may very well be a dumb idea but perhaps it has some benefit to the companies accounting side? Just some rogue higher-up who is infatuated by the idea of leaderboards for whatever reason? Idk man, I'm just looking into it. "

Leaderboards are a great marketing idea in principle for a poker site because
1) You're hitting the exact target market as opposed to the usual 18-35 or whatever male audience
2) You're cutting out middle-man fees and social media resources
3) It's a comparatively small percentage of the overall marketing budget

Afaik the main reason it was done was for efficiency and positive PR. Where they screwed up was compiling it incorrectly and making zero adjustments in spite of data indicating recs were not winning anything.
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05-06-2018 , 04:25 AM
I asked pads about adding 180 mans in between the main games, he said the traffic wouldn't' support this, but now i see the fast mtts back at :15 every hour with multiple buy in's of the same tournament, this makes me wonder why a 180 man wouldn't work but having all these fast tournaments does? I'm also not sure what sense it makes to have a $0.55 $50 gtd when 15 minutes before you have a 10k gtd powerfest, gl with powerfest btw

I'm all for seeing new things on the schedule but i really hate seeing the same tournaments deployed hour after hour. If you are going to add things in between i would love to play something different each time. Also why :15? seems :30 makes more sense no?

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05-06-2018 , 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by jambo227
I asked pads about adding 180 mans in between the main games, he said the traffic wouldn't' support this, but now i see the fast mtts back at :15 every hour with multiple buy in's of the same tournament, this makes me wonder why a 180 man wouldn't work but having all these fast tournaments does? I'm also not sure what sense it makes to have a $0.55 $50 gtd when 15 minutes before you have a 10k gtd powerfest, gl with powerfest btw

I'm all for seeing new things on the schedule but i really hate seeing the same tournaments deployed hour after hour. If you are going to add things in between i would love to play something different each time. Also why :15? seems :30 makes more sense no?

The :15 are to take like Sit n Gos anyway, they will get 50-100-180 people, but it s not ashame at all, it s really a balance to the over too long tourney they put in place so they are key to please everyone or just to make the deepstack tourney grind enjoyable.
It s so basic i don t even know why it s a discussion here. FOr the MTT team they seem toxic because they potentially damage their stupid bigger GTD topurney, but hey when you get the structure right, they will succeed also, just put yr **** together once
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05-06-2018 , 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by LittleGoliath
Everyone is always welcome to post their concerns, but is it so much to ask do this in a somewhat respectable manner? I understand and sympathize with everyone’s frustrations but name calling and whatever else is not going to help your case.

Pads quit this thread because things got wildly out of hand, and this was mainly due to a select group of people who ruined it for the others. I guess you indeed reap what you sow.

Also connectivity issues, as much as they obviously suck, are not part of the player panel and should actually be mentioned in the general thread here. This thread and the panel were created to mainly deal with mtt concerns and everything that is somewhat related to that.
To be fair, Pads quit this thread because... if we go based off past behaviors and previous posts (in other threads), he has a tendency to quit.

Example: Previously he stated how soft live was and he was going focus more efforts on that. Recently he claims he retired from live poker to focus online.

We could use this thread as another example.

I think Patrick did some wonderful things to help improve the tournaments at Party. To blame complaining customers why he left this thread, I will call your bluff. He quits many things for the slightest reasons.
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05-06-2018 , 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by MangeTaSueur
The :15 are to take like Sit n Gos anyway, they will get 50-100-180 people, but it s not ashame at all, it s really a balance to the over too long tourney they put in place so they are key to please everyone or just to make the deepstack tourney grind enjoyable.
It s so basic i don t even know why it s a discussion here. FOr the MTT team they seem toxic because they potentially damage their stupid bigger GTD topurney, but hey when you get the structure right, they will succeed also, just put yr **** together once
I'm not sure what you are saying, i wasn't complaining that these :15 mtts exist, i am saying i would like more than just "fasts" to play, 180 mans were a suggestion, i was told they couldn't be done because of traffic, now i am asking the question why there are so many fasts but no 180 mans, do you understand now?
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05-06-2018 , 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by daChimp
To be fair, Pads quit this thread because... if we go based off past behaviors and previous posts (in other threads), he has a tendency to quit.

Example: Previously he stated how soft live was and he was going focus more efforts on that. Recently he claims he retired from live poker to focus online.

We could use this thread as another example.

I think Patrick did some wonderful things to help improve the tournaments at Party. To blame complaining customers why he left this thread, I will call your bluff. He quits many things for the slightest reasons.
There is nothing personal with him, but the ones in charge aka the team need to face the complains when 1 month ago he, as the face here, claimed it s a huge success etc and just few weeks later all has been changed and traffic and GTDs down and software/schedule remains repulsive and dumb. STill no decent sats when you set up higher GTD is the biggest mistake but there are 100 other basics that could be corrected in few days.

Example : (basic elementary school markerting) :

Do you know why your sats 3.3$ to 33$ are overlaid ?
It s a good addition and idea. BUT YOU PUT THEM ONE DAY BEFORE THE START OF MONSTER SERIESWITHOUT TELLING ANYONE. THEN CAME TO CONCLUSION, OMG IT S NOT A GOOD WAY OF SATS ! F>>>>>>>>>>>>>CKERS. The failure IS your way to commuicate on your product, not the ideas
Why don t you tell people to play them ? expect people to dig in the lobby with a failing software is suicide, yes well we back to the software, but if the filters are failing, it s your own fault then. I mean i m just a silly player and i see those things straight away.... how come PAID people don t see it ?

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05-06-2018 , 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by daChimp
To be fair, Pads quit this thread because... if we go based off past behaviors and previous posts (in other threads), he has a tendency to quit.

Example: Previously he stated how soft live was and he was going focus more efforts on that. Recently he claims he retired from live poker to focus online.

We could use this thread as another example.
That's some coherent line of thought right there
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05-06-2018 , 08:01 AM
You can do the leg work yourself,Im not trying to make this personal. Someone pointed out that Pads quit thread due to complaints... I say he quit because thats his tendency, to quit. There are more examples if you did the slightest research...

But we should prob focus on the topic here. Party is making great strides, not all customers satisfied and offer suggestions...

When someone spouts off thats why the person responsible for these changes, Patrick, isnt here. Did I miss something? Pretty sure Pio solver says I have a pretty accurate line
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That's some coherent line of thought right there
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05-06-2018 , 09:41 AM
Im locked out due to server issues. Anyone else?
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05-06-2018 , 10:19 AM
Haven't logged in but reading fasts at :15 are back. Thank you! Sure it's good to have huge gtd's on everything, adding in smaller field turbo mtt's is one of the best additions you've done.
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05-06-2018 , 10:20 AM
I guess someone forgot to add satellites for Powerfest, just some 530 -> 5200 running. Well, pads in @ hurry trying to use all the overlays.

No server issues here so far. But if there's too much overlay it's quite likely someone pulls the plug if we believe that what has happened before during big Sunday overlays happens again.
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05-06-2018 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by -UBetIFold-
Haven't logged in but reading fasts at :15 are back. Thank you! Sure it's good to have huge gtd's on everything, adding in smaller field turbo mtt's is one of the best additions you've done.
Yep, finger crossed they last long
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05-06-2018 , 12:39 PM
Is there no clock which lets you see how much time you have left to act??!?!?!?!?

Am I missing something??
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