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05-02-2018 , 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by C4BRIO
@bwin_rep: Can you please tell us when Bwin.be will finally have the better Partypoker layout as promised? )
Apologies for the delay and that i can't have a better update for you apart from it will happen, but just that i can't confirm when.
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05-02-2018 , 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by sitoutguy
Smooth levels are just to piss us off and make us play longer.... But truth is that they try to make guarantees so big that they cant HOLD and that is why late reg is 4h, you cant do that with normal levels and 8 to 10 min.

But yeah I would also like to know the point.
Late reg in smooths is actually shorter than before if I'm not mistaken. I do agree however the clocks of the smooths could be reduced a bit, and will bring this forward.

Last edited by LittleGoliath; 05-02-2018 at 12:47 PM.
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05-02-2018 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by LittleGoliath
Late reg in smooths is actually shorter than before if I'm not mistaken. I do agree however the clocks of the smooths could be reduced a bit, and will bring this forward.
Please do - I like smooth and even if levels are really short people stay above 20bbs for plenty of time The fast smooth tournaments are cool.

Also smooth eliminates the benefit of timing down to get more equity on the button with blind increases
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05-02-2018 , 08:04 PM
As some feeder and normal sats at low and medium level (as per software) overlay some times, it is very nice idea if you make some/all sats to have addition free tickets. I think that the total overlay should become smaller then now and when players see that there are sats + free tickets, those sats should become more popular. I remember that sat - 5R at PS years ago there was 5 or 10 free tickets to 55$ event and that value was way smaller then the rake payed, but it were FREE and I played them from time to time even if I did not had the proper bankroll.
Like remove some of gtd seats and add some free tickets like free ticket fore every 22th player (basically the rake become 5%, because most sat just reach the gtd) or something similar.

Last edited by mecantplay; 05-02-2018 at 08:10 PM.
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05-02-2018 , 11:07 PM
Maybe this has already been discussed multiple times in here, but why do party mtts have two 500/1k levels now? Don't tournaments, especially low stakes last long enough already?
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05-03-2018 , 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by N3wAccount
Maybe this has already been discussed multiple times in here, but why do party mtts have two 500/1k levels now? Don't tournaments, especially low stakes last long enough already?
Because PP will launch soon its own shampoo-conditionner
All has to be SMOOOOOOTH !
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05-03-2018 , 07:25 AM
Is Pads not coming into the thread anymore? With monster series running and powerfest on the way I thought he'd have an update.
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05-03-2018 , 07:28 AM
https://www.pokerstars.uk/scoop/player-of-the-series/

Have to give props to Party however for having way more leaderboard prizes than stars for Powerfest/Scoop series

Bit weak from pokerstars!
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05-03-2018 , 07:50 AM
WHATS UP WITH BWIN??? @bwin_rep
POWERFEST ---> NO DEPOSIT BONUS/PROMOTION AT ALL, NO LEADEARBOARD AT ALL, ONLY CLICK CARD PROMOTION AND ZERO (0) PROMOTIONS FOR MONSTER SERIES???
AM I MISSING SOMETHING OR WE ARE JUST ****ED???
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05-03-2018 , 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by tiltyoubad
WHATS UP WITH BWIN??? @bwin_rep
POWERFEST ---> NO DEPOSIT BONUS/PROMOTION AT ALL, NO LEADEARBOARD AT ALL, ONLY CLICK CARD PROMOTION AND ZERO (0) PROMOTIONS FOR MONSTER SERIES???
AM I MISSING SOMETHING OR WE ARE JUST ****ED???
Rep pm'd me back:

"Regarding Powerfest, i've been advised our pages will be live within the next 24 hours. I understand the frustration and will relay this back to the team.

From what i understand we'll have the same as party for the leaderboard inclusion, but then also a click card with a chance to win a Caribbean package."

This was about 15 hours ago.
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05-03-2018 , 09:55 AM
$33 100k gtd 8m monster stack pays 15.9% to first
$33 100k gtd 6m monster stack pays 12.49% to first

whats up with this ?

12.5% to first in a 2500 player field is shockingly flat , even worse than stars in fact.
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05-03-2018 , 10:40 AM
i dont Play a lot but i really enjoy the Monster series!!! nice tournaments! (and if i look at the coming powerfest games- WOW ) wonderfull!!!

AND i must say i come to the Point where i say - i love pkos! really!

and i totally agree with Patrick that 6max is the best Format for it. would like to see more of them in this 6max Format.
but 6max with 12min blinds with 16 Level late reg. is let me say- hard.

8-10-12 would be GREAT- would be for everyone something no one would whine.
faster in the Money- and after the bubble longer Levels....would be optimal.

12 Level late reg. standard for every tournament would be good.


i am curious about the "tweaked" .15 Turbos which will come back.
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05-03-2018 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
DDoS attack going on or just Party servers crashing once again? Missing lots of hands because software is unresponsive, although super strange is that software still occasionally deals hands on other tables while simultaneously refuses to acknowledge actions on other one.



That JJ I did I bet pre-flop but software folded it (not sure if at pflop or at flop got no full hand history) then already so cards stay like ghost but software folded it etc. Also timebank don't seem to activate normally today. This has continued more or less full day although my internet works perfectly and I also have my backup internet running now alongside regular internet but problems still continue.

I don't have time to play with Party's useless and always unhelpful live support while playing HS so I ask Colette to follow this up. That picture should give all the relevant info.
This has been a problem whole week. Tuesday / Wednesday it wasn't a bad one, there were some delays but never over 15s or so. Now software is totally unbearable, lots of sitouts because software often takes lots of time to register an action. Playing just 2 tables for about one hour and probably 10+ sitouts because of these problems.

Double internet connection and no disconnections whatsoever (keeping Stars open just in case).

E: Probably related to this. Tried to open other tables at a tournament near bubble and it was impossible and froze whole software, even got a brief "restoring connection"-message (again nothing from PokerStars). No problem with CPU / memory either and no time to troubleshoot more with some live support 1st line guy as grinding this stupid leaderboard.



My guess is either very major DDoS or if that's not the case there's something really major wrong between PartyPoker servers and Finland.

Please double the rake @ PKOs and use that money to fix these kind of issues This is utterly critical stuff for most poker sites.

Last edited by FarseerFinland; 05-03-2018 at 11:41 AM.
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05-04-2018 , 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by tiltyoubad
WHATS UP WITH BWIN??? @bwin_rep
POWERFEST ---> NO DEPOSIT BONUS/PROMOTION AT ALL, NO LEADEARBOARD AT ALL, ONLY CLICK CARD PROMOTION AND ZERO (0) PROMOTIONS FOR MONSTER SERIES???
AM I MISSING SOMETHING OR WE ARE JUST ****ED???
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Originally Posted by fragglerock45
Rep pm'd me back:

"Regarding Powerfest, i've been advised our pages will be live within the next 24 hours. I understand the frustration and will relay this back to the team.

From what i understand we'll have the same as party for the leaderboard inclusion, but then also a click card with a chance to win a Caribbean package."

This was about 15 hours ago.
Just to confirm what was said by fragglerock. Powerfest tournaments are included within the Low and High Leaderboards, and we have a click card promotion which awards free tickets + the chance at a Caribbean Package. I will of course pass the feedback from tiltyoubad to the team regarding this and Monster Series.
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05-04-2018 , 10:58 AM
Server problems or whatever these are continue today again.

Now everything works most of the time, but sometimes PartyPoker just freezes like loses connection like it has done earlier, I click a button nothing happens for 15s-60s and my hand usually ends up mucked. Impossible to play but have to because of leaderboard. Have lost lots of hands because of these but I guess PartyPoker doesn't care.

PokerStars internet computer everything else working fine. Well I'll try last resort and install Skype and try the Skype support, although I don't hold high hopes.
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05-04-2018 , 11:02 AM
+1 for some monster series events to be 2 day.
Especially at Sunday.
Also monster series are supposed to be for recs
so it would be good to have promos or a leaderboard for them.
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05-04-2018 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
Server problems or whatever these are continue today again.

Now everything works most of the time, but sometimes PartyPoker just freezes like loses connection like it has done earlier, I click a button nothing happens for 15s-60s and my hand usually ends up mucked. Impossible to play but have to because of leaderboard. Have lost lots of hands because of these but I guess PartyPoker doesn't care.

PokerStars internet computer everything else working fine. Well I'll try last resort and install Skype and try the Skype support, although I don't hold high hopes.
Seems like you are the only one, so I doubt they are getting DDOS'd like you suggested in a previous post and that the issues are from your side.

@Party rep, any plans on adding more HU mtts?
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05-04-2018 , 03:37 PM
He isn't the only one. Though for me it was much worse yesterday as I timed out and forcefully mucked hands on every table once or twice each hour while all other sites were working splendidly. This might be a regional thing as I'm across the gulf in Tallinn, Estonia. Would really appreciate it if I didn't have to deal with this crap during Powerfest.
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05-04-2018 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by lenC
He isn't the only one. Though for me it was much worse yesterday as I timed out and forcefully mucked hands on every table once or twice each hour while all other sites were working splendidly. This might be a regional thing as I'm across the gulf in Tallinn, Estonia. Would really appreciate it if I didn't have to deal with this crap during Powerfest.
I noticed less Finnish players than usual so not surprised. Couldn't rule out an ISP issue as it sounds like your problem is uploading information to the PP servers - not an issue with download. Somehow your upload capability is being shredded - actions that should take 50ms taking 30 secs...
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05-04-2018 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by nikos ath23
+1 for some monster series events to be 2 day.
Especially at Sunday.
Also monster series are supposed to be for recs
so it would be good to have promos or a leaderboard for them.
Pads has said the current leaderboards are designed to be won by recs but good luck with that one.

Imo it's one of the dumbest promos ever. Cdarwin,SixthSense19,Lena900... do these guys really need $5k tickets?

Not even possible for a $200 reg to win - gotta play $500 games and above!

What next a leaderboard for the 5ks?
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05-04-2018 , 03:57 PM
https://www.pocketfives.com/articles...op-bet-618695/

Oh and if you guys are wondering where Pads is he's doing 100k sidebets and grinding 12 hours a day for SCOOP and Powerfest.

You know could be an idea to use the time to analyse Player activity and make adjustments to both tournament structures and leaderboards....

Pads could be a good player ambassador or MTT director but it's obvious he cannot be both.
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05-04-2018 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by fragglerock45
Pads has said the current leaderboards are designed to be won by recs but good luck with that one.

Imo it's one of the dumbest promos ever. Cdarwin,SixthSense19,Lena900... do these guys really need $5k tickets?

Not even possible for a $200 reg to win - gotta play $500 games and above!

What next a leaderboard for the 5ks?
+1. Although it is possible to win without playing $500 but much, much harder and requires lots of luck.

This LB really is for pads and his stable + friends. I don't believe a second he is telling the truth that his stable is just won one package. Basically if their players play @ Party even remotely actively it is simply impossible because earlier packages were occasionally so super easy to win that you couldn't miss the all. And earliest versions of this kind of leaderboard had just one highroller with almost all tournaments being 109$ freezeouts. You could skip the highroller, play 109s and get a good shot at the package (and could also grind and store 109$ tickets from satellites if you wished as they had no expiry).

And yeah, I think it requires 500k+ bankroll to play this leaderboard currently effectively if holding up @ reasonable bankroll management and not selling shares / be at the stable, and 200k+ bankroll if you dodge most HRs.

I have won lots of leaderboards @ PartyPoker, but honestly if I could choose between PartyPoker pre-2015 and current state I would always choose pre-2015. There's far more important qualities than unsustainable high prizepools, like integrity, security, software + customer support when needed. All of which Party is currently lacking severely.
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05-04-2018 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by lenC
He isn't the only one. Though for me it was much worse yesterday as I timed out and forcefully mucked hands on every table once or twice each hour while all other sites were working splendidly. This might be a regional thing as I'm across the gulf in Tallinn, Estonia. Would really appreciate it if I didn't have to deal with this crap during Powerfest.
Yeah some people @ Finnish poker forums also had same kind of problems. Might be something @ Helsinki - Tallinn area, but not isolated incident and nothing to do with my computer or internet connection. But no answer yet from anyone @ Party, except skype support just said "Ok we will look into it" when I posted earlier posts with screen shots today and nothing after that. Because PartyPoker support has always been a bad joke people rather just stop playing than report it there, I guess.

On which other site you ask support for 5 days and get no help whatsoever or even "send us the backlogs"-reply at case this important? And they're trying to become largest poker site in a world, give me a break here.

Just putting large guaranteeds on events that don't sustain it has been seen not working, even today almost all guaranteeds were slashed. Mega sats also utterly failed, 250 seats -> after one week 100 seats -> 50 seats now. Basically every change pads has made during these last 2 years has failed miserably. Only exception really has been the highrollers, and that's mostly due to leaderboards as most players playing them are grinding them. And pads "claims" that he has nothing to do with the promotional team so it doesn't count.
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05-04-2018 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
+1. Although it is possible to win without playing $500 but much, much harder and requires lots of luck.

This LB really is for pads and his stable + friends. I don't believe a second he is telling the truth that his stable is just won one package. Basically if their players play @ Party even remotely actively it is simply impossible because earlier packages were occasionally so super easy to win that you couldn't miss the all. And earliest versions of this kind of leaderboard had just one highroller with almost all tournaments being 109$ freezeouts. You could skip the highroller, play 109s and get a good shot at the package (and could also grind and store 109$ tickets from satellites if you wished as they had no expiry).

And yeah, I think it requires 500k+ bankroll to play this leaderboard currently effectively if holding up @ reasonable bankroll management and not selling shares / be at the stable, and 200k+ bankroll if you dodge most HRs.

I have won lots of leaderboards @ PartyPoker, but honestly if I could choose between PartyPoker pre-2015 and current state I would always choose pre-2015. There's far more important qualities than unsustainable high prizepools, like integrity, security, software + customer support when needed. All of which Party is currently lacking severely.
Great points. Overlays going all week and the head of MTTs at Party will be grinding the whole tournament series with a propbet rather than working out the issues. Something does smell with the high leaderboard.

Pads will have plenty of time for grinding if Party bite overlays for Powerfest. Think the events will hit but satellites could be messed up again (no doubt Pads will be able to blame it on the satellite team)
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05-04-2018 , 08:11 PM
So to sum up basically everything I ever said about Party poker starting when Pads took over came to be.

I get that some people want big guarantees but you need the infrastructure in place to pull it off. Going head to head with Stars with a third the player pool is a never ending gimmick that requires more gimmicks over time as the original gimmicks fail.

Even with these guarantees they could do much better in the gimmicks and get more bang for their buck in promotional spend elsewhere.

I don't feel much sympathy for Pads as he's not cut out for this job and not just spread too thin.

Suggestion for the team... keep money spent on leaderboards visible. Have a weekly HU match with the tlb winner against a team pro for the prize. Players get shown a dream then. Does anyone know or care about last weeks tlb winner? No so therefore it adds nothing to the site.

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