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05-01-2018 , 06:20 AM
please bring back :15 fasts and some freezeouts in the morning! where is the early grind gone
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05-01-2018 , 03:03 PM
I feel like the fasts were set up to fail from the start. I missed a couple of them because i didnt even know they were in the schedule. Then I missed them again because I didn't realize they only have 1 hour late reg. It takes time for people to get used to the schedule changes. At the very least you could have Collette come in here whenever there's a schedule or structure change and let us know. It's really bad when someone's trying to play every tournament in the schedule for lb points can't keep up with the changes.

Impressvie job on the schedule overall though. Its great to have multiple tournaments with $10k or more for first place on a weekday. I was beginning to think those days were over.

Seems like there's a dead spot in the middle of the day with no sats running btw. We could use a round of them between the earlier turbo sats and the primetime slower ones.

And I get that America's main event and 2nd chance are targeted toward a different time zone but they run way too long considering how small the prize pools are. Last night a rec player came into the ft as chipleader and actually sat out the entire 2 hours + (and somehow finished 3rd place)
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05-01-2018 , 03:33 PM
Think fast got temporarily removed due to ongoing/upcoming series in an attempt to declutter the lobby
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05-01-2018 , 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by tl65\
I feel like the fasts were set up to fail from the start. I missed a couple of them because i didnt even know they were in the schedule. Then I missed them again because I didn't realize they only have 1 hour late reg. It takes time for people to get used to the schedule changes. At the very least you could have Collette come in here whenever there's a schedule or structure change and let us know. It's really bad when someone's trying to play every tournament in the schedule for lb points can't keep up with the changes.

Impressvie job on the schedule overall though. Its great to have multiple tournaments with $10k or more for first place on a weekday. I was beginning to think those days were over.

Seems like there's a dead spot in the middle of the day with no sats running btw. We could use a round of them between the earlier turbo sats and the primetime slower ones.

And I get that America's main event and 2nd chance are targeted toward a different time zone but they run way too long considering how small the prize pools are. Last night a rec player came into the ft as chipleader and actually sat out the entire 2 hours + (and somehow finished 3rd place)
They don't run too long. Those of us from a different timezone want a chance to play an mtt with a decent structure. I am not a believer that the greater the prize pool, the better the structure. Everyone shud get a chance to play a good structured mtt and if its not worth it for you then don't play. The number of entries is low as well, and the structure is exactly the same as the earlier main events. You just think it is going on too long because you are regging it towards the end of the session.
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05-01-2018 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by LittleGoliath
Think fast got temporarily removed due to ongoing/upcoming series in an attempt to declutter the lobby


The problem lies in the lack of communication. No one knew they were coming. They came and were enjoyed by a subset of the player pool. Then without warning, they were taken out with no reasoning. How hard is it to convey these changes and give everyone a heads up
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05-01-2018 , 06:01 PM
I'm pretty sure they will be back. But who knows with party
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05-01-2018 , 06:02 PM
Really can't wait until it is back...
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05-01-2018 , 07:01 PM
The fasts were well executed too - 5% rake, can late reg up to the :55 break - both SNG grinders and MTT regs can play... and a nice mix between bounty and regular.
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05-01-2018 , 07:05 PM
https://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/pleno1/

Few decent scores for Pads this weekend at the tables at least
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05-01-2018 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Colin_Piddle
They don't run too long. Those of us from a different timezone want a chance to play an mtt with a decent structure. I am not a believer that the greater the prize pool, the better the structure. Everyone shud get a chance to play a good structured mtt and if its not worth it for you then don't play. The number of entries is low as well, and the structure is exactly the same as the earlier main events. You just think it is going on too long because you are regging it towards the end of the session.
If you look at the field, the majority is in Europe or Russia anyways and a lot of the players from American time zones have been playing all day anyways. Regardless of when you start, 9 hours (or 6 with late reg) is a long time to play for a relatively small prize pool. I'm sure the guy who went to bed/work rather than play out the ft with the chip lead would agree
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05-01-2018 , 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by tl65\
If you look at the field, the majority is in Europe or Russia anyways and a lot of the players from American time zones have been playing all day anyways. Regardless of when you start, 9 hours (or 6 with late reg) is a long time to play for a relatively small prize pool. I'm sure the guy who went to bed/work rather than play out the ft with the chip lead would agree
Busted 12/400 on deepstack and it was after 7hrs20. 38$cash, so 5 buy ins. Just accepted that crap because playing the series later on, but it s ridiculous

Basically from ITM (5hrs of pain) it s a folding festival even on a 6 max format. Everybody is too deep and wait a setup. Talking about experience of play and fun, it s terrible and entirely due to the structure. On a 7.5$ buy in you feel trapped.

Monster series is also following the same no sense with 10hrs+ format the same day. It s slightly more OK on a week event though. But please do something on the regular program.

Small positive touch : Good you put 3.3$ sat for 33$ event at monster
Do same for 22$ events a 2.2 sat would not hurt at all
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05-02-2018 , 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by MangeTaSueur
Busted 12/400 on deepstack and it was after 7hrs20. 38$cash, so 5 buy ins. Just accepted that crap because playing the series later on, but it s ridiculous

Basically from ITM (5hrs of pain) it s a folding festival even on a 6 max format. Everybody is too deep and wait a setup. Talking about experience of play and fun, it s terrible and entirely due to the structure. On a 7.5$ buy in you feel trapped.

Monster series is also following the same no sense with 10hrs+ format the same day. It s slightly more OK on a week event though. But please do something on the regular program.

Small positive touch : Good you put 3.3$ sat for 33$ event at monster
Do same for 22$ events a 2.2 sat would not hurt at all
+1000000000000000
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05-02-2018 , 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by tl65\
If you look at the field, the majority is in Europe or Russia anyways and a lot of the players from American time zones have been playing all day anyways. Regardless of when you start, 9 hours (or 6 with late reg) is a long time to play for a relatively small prize pool. I'm sure the guy who went to bed/work rather than play out the ft with the chip lead would agree
+1000000000000
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05-02-2018 , 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Colin_Piddle
They don't run too long. Those of us from a different timezone want a chance to play an mtt with a decent structure. I am not a believer that the greater the prize pool, the better the structure. Everyone shud get a chance to play a good structured mtt and if its not worth it for you then don't play. The number of entries is low as well, and the structure is exactly the same as the earlier main events. You just think it is going on too long because you are regging it towards the end of the session.
Its obvious you have no sense what are you talking about here. Everyone agrees that there can be deepstacks but like in stars its 1 in 2 or 3h specially for deepstack lovers not like every single tournament is deepstack....It doesnt make sense that avg tournament run time downst depend on pp. Of course it should.

Before all the changes run times for tourneys was perfect. Why it changed IDK.

Solution: Deeper levels while late reg to get pp and then as before this all **** started.

And just for people like you thy can make like 63 level late reg 16h tourneys w 1k up top.


And about : "and if its not worth it for you then don't play." Then what do I do, go play stars and just dont play on party??? What will hold the prize pools if all regs go away and some deepstack lovers will stay...PARTY POKER will be gone
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05-02-2018 , 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by sitoutguy
Its obvious you have no sense what are you talking about here. Everyone agrees that there can be deepstacks but like in stars its 1 in 2 or 3h specially for deepstack lovers not like every single tournament is deepstack....It doesnt make sense that avg tournament run time downst depend on pp. Of course it should.

And just for people like you thy can make like 63 level late reg 16h tourneys w 1k up top.

I'M talking about the AMERICAS MAIN EVENTS in that post

NOT THE DEEP STACKS

Reading comprehension failure

I don't want to play 16 hour mtts
I don't want to play 5 hours to make the money
If a tournament is labelled deep stacks then I don't think 8 or 9 hours is unreasonable. This is how long they take on stars. The problem is it takes far too long to make ITM. It shud be 3.5 hours max unless SCOOP

Problem is too many mtts are now deep stacked. They removed the faster mtts.

Also the guy specifically attacks the americas events when the other daily specials have exactly the same structure. If you shorten one you must shorten them all.

If you were in my timezone and every decent mtt on party started between 2 and 5-6am, you would not want the americas main event touched either.

Last edited by Colin_Piddle; 05-02-2018 at 05:15 AM.
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05-02-2018 , 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Colin_Piddle
I'M talking about the AMERICAS MAIN EVENTS

NOT THE DEEP STACKS

Reading comprehension failure
Sry then for missunderstanding
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05-02-2018 , 05:23 AM
It's all good bro
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05-02-2018 , 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by tiltyoubad
Fast tournaments gone, rebuys and deepstacks ALL ****IN DAY WTF BRO?!?!?!
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Originally Posted by -UBetIFold-
I was a huge fan of the fasts at :15. Reduced rake, small fields. Are they gone, or just for today or what? These were an amazing addition to the schedule for someone who wants to play but doesn't have 9 hours to grind a mtt.


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Originally Posted by C4BRIO
Yes, those xx:15 turbo's were GREAT additions, please let them grow party, they will!!


@bwin_rep: Can you please tell us when Bwin.be will finally have the better Partypoker layout as promised?

Thanks a lot :-)
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Originally Posted by -UBetIFold-
Can we have an actual answer on the fasts at :15? Are they just taken out for monster series?

The Fast tournaments have not been removed, they are having some tweaks and will return to the schedule
I have no set date to confirm but likely no later than Sunday, hopefully before

Hope that helps

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Originally Posted by fragglerock45
Colette is usually the one to confirm technical issues here and on facebook. Party website is useless to check because server status is always listed as "very good" - can see ur point however

I am unaware of any mass tech issues - I have no other complaints
I've checked with customer service and they only had 3 complaints - seems like an isolated issue
I trust its now fully resolved itself


Thanks

Colette
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05-02-2018 , 06:40 AM
Why are so many tournaments pausing then restarting at a random time? Bit ridiculous to pause a tournament for an indeterminate period without cancelling it - especially when it says connection lost on the table.
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05-02-2018 , 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Colin_Piddle
I'M talking about the AMERICAS MAIN EVENTS in that post

NOT THE DEEP STACKS

Reading comprehension failure

I don't want to play 16 hour mtts
I don't want to play 5 hours to make the money
If a tournament is labelled deep stacks then I don't think 8 or 9 hours is unreasonable. This is how long they take on stars. The problem is it takes far too long to make ITM. It shud be 3.5 hours max unless SCOOP

Problem is too many mtts are now deep stacked. They removed the faster mtts.

Also the guy specifically attacks the americas events when the other daily specials have exactly the same structure. If you shorten one you must shorten them all.

If you were in my timezone and every decent mtt on party started between 2 and 5-6am, you would not want the americas main event touched either.
I agree with you!

and yes deepstacks can be, but much less than it is now
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05-02-2018 , 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Colin_Piddle
If a tournament is labelled deep stacks then I don't think 8 or 9 hours is unreasonable. This is how long they take on stars. The problem is it takes far too long to make ITM.
Not only ITM, after ITM is also a pain. We are talking about 300-400 fields, not 4000 so 9hrs is really a joke for buy ins under 100
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05-02-2018 , 08:37 AM
5h and 36 min to cash in 99 player tournament and 4h and 40 min in bounty builder w 185 runners and those are not even deepstacks (at least they dont write it).... DDDDD #joke

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05-02-2018 , 08:42 AM
I don't get why they don't use this progressive blind levels (8-10-12 or whatever) to reduce time to get ITM and make play deeper afterwards. Also I don't get this smooth levels bull****. Can you explain us what is the point of smooth structure??? So pointless and stupid imo.
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05-02-2018 , 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by CorrectSide
I don't get why they don't use this progressive blind levels (8-10-12 or whatever) to reduce time to get ITM and make play deeper afterwards. Also I don't get this smooth levels bull****. Can you explain us what is the point of smooth structure??? So pointless and stupid imo.
Smooth levels are just to piss us off and make us play longer.... But truth is that they try to make guarantees so big that they cant HOLD and that is why late reg is 4h, you cant do that with normal levels and 8 to 10 min.

But yeah I would also like to know the point.
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05-02-2018 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by sitoutguy
Smooth levels are just to piss us off and make us play longer.... But truth is that they try to make guarantees so big that they cant HOLD and that is why late reg is 4h, you cant do that with normal levels and 8 to 10 min.

But yeah I would also like to know the point.
so again again and again, big GTS to destroy the core offer/product is massively ******ed and will stop PP to grow. They ignore the base of the pyramid, mistakes that no other company would do, it s sooo basic
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