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Old 04-16-2018, 11:41 AM   #1326
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

so as it reads u can buy into phase 2 with 100k? :/
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Old 04-16-2018, 11:57 AM   #1327
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

Wish there were more tournaments at night for West Coast Pacific time. Very run after 8pm ish (3:00 am GMT)
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Old 04-16-2018, 12:51 PM   #1328
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

Again last night this days tournaments didn't mainly show on client (partially probably because PKO -> Mix-Max day). I thought we had this discussion already about how new tournaments should show up / not being changed at the lobby at least 24 hrs before during leaderboards, but pads already forgot... couldn't you have announced it today with FAQ about them and launch it next week? Mix-max itself is probably much better than regular 6-max, assuming software can handle it properly and information to players is clearly visible.

Satellite guaranteeds were pretty much crushed after just two weeks and now midstakes satellite offering is actually much worse than before.
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Old 04-16-2018, 04:08 PM   #1329
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

Could it be that postflop decision time is too short (pre is 20sec, post is 10 sec) in ppl$$$ semi finals?
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Old 04-16-2018, 04:42 PM   #1330
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

The time to act could do with tweaking in my opinion. Would personally like a bit more time pre flop but whats more annoying is in the turbos the time warning beeps after 1 or 2 seconds. Doesn't seem intuitive that you get a time to act warning after 1 second of inactivity. If your not going to increase the time to act maybe delay the warning.
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Old 04-16-2018, 08:06 PM   #1331
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

What happened with 215$ 20k GTD Mix-Max Second chance?? Instead of switching to 6 max the tournament finished.
Will we receive a refund or play day 2 6max in another day? We canīt even see the prizes.
Fix that.
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Old 04-17-2018, 05:15 AM   #1332
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

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Strange thing happened to me yesterday. I was not able to unregister a tournament.

It appears there is actually an unregistration period.
And according to support "be informed that in the majority of times the unregistration period is up until 5 minutes before the tournament, however, certain tournaments do not follow this general principle"

In my tournament I was half hour before start, but the unreg period was actually 34 minutes (13:56 for 14:30).

Why would you even do that ? It can only make players upset, right ?

I must just miss something.
This is in place for very few tournaments, the majority are 5mins un-registration time support confirming this is correct
Which tournament exactly are you referring too please?


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"I like the mix-max monday idea. Only problem I see is that it might be confusing for the recreational players when they check the lobby and it only says: "Qualification to day 2" in the prize pool section. There is no info on when "day 2" starts. This can be a major turn-off imo."

EXACTLY THIS.

i like the idea too. lol, but what is mixmax mean? and when is day 2?
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prettty much be better if next phase shown in lobby of tournament, come on guys stuff like this helps lots!
Feedback noted

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What happened with 215$ 20k GTD Mix-Max Second chance?? Instead of switching to 6 max the tournament finished.
Will we receive a refund or play day 2 6max in another day? We canīt even see the prizes.
Fix that.
I'm looking into this will confirm when I have an answer
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Old 04-17-2018, 06:15 AM   #1333
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

How works the count of the leaderboard points in Mix Max MTT's? For example, the 530 yesterday got ~ 100 runners. Play resumed 6 max with 18 players. Is the field size 100 or 18? I believe the system now uses the 18 player field size what seems unfair.
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Old 04-17-2018, 07:15 AM   #1334
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How works the count of the leaderboard points in Mix Max MTT's? For example, the 530 yesterday got ~ 100 runners. Play resumed 6 max with 18 players. Is the field size 100 or 18? I believe the system now uses the 18 player field size what seems unfair.
I got zero points for finishing final 10. I'm also getting zero points on tournaments that were added by Pads after the leaderboard began.

Points have no relationship with cash amount so the mix-max are pretty much worthless for leaderboard if they're treated as 18 man field.
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Old 04-17-2018, 07:16 AM   #1335
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

Please take out immediatly this Mix Max Monday
It's way too confusing, don't think recs like it that much, and you only risk to make mistakes like yesterday.
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Old 04-17-2018, 08:05 AM   #1336
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

Hey party/bwin,

last night the 215$ second chance event finished phase 1 with 16 players and the 2nd phase never popped up at all.
I contacted support (bwin support never has any idea about poker issues but still had to try) and they said phase 2 was cancelled due to insufficient players ?

That's ridiculous, please look into it and let us know.
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Old 04-17-2018, 08:53 AM   #1337
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

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What happened with 215$ 20k GTD Mix-Max Second chance?? Instead of switching to 6 max the tournament finished.
Will we receive a refund or play day 2 6max in another day? We canīt even see the prizes.
Fix that.
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Hey party/bwin,
last night the 215$ second chance event finished phase 1 with 16 players and the 2nd phase never popped up at all.
I contacted support (bwin support never has any idea about poker issues but still had to try) and they said phase 2 was cancelled due to insufficient players ?
That's ridiculous, please look into it and let us know.
This is being looked into and will be resolved shortly - the team are currently working on it
You should receive an email/communication with resolution details


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How works the count of the leaderboard points in Mix Max MTT's? For example, the 530 yesterday got ~ 100 runners. Play resumed 6 max with 18 players. Is the field size 100 or 18? I believe the system now uses the 18 player field size what seems unfair.
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I got zero points for finishing final 10. I'm also getting zero points on tournaments that were added by Pads after the leaderboard began.

Points have no relationship with cash amount so the mix-max are pretty much worthless for leaderboard if they're treated as 18 man field.

I've asked the promo team to confirm and I will feedback when possible

Thanks

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Old 04-17-2018, 08:59 AM   #1338
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

mix match def a cool idea, few tweaks in the mtt lobby for them should get more people in hitting the gtds.

maybe let history of lobby go beyond a few days too, clear visibility helps alot.

seems party doing alot of things right tho so kudos
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Old 04-17-2018, 09:14 AM   #1339
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Hey party/bwin,

last night the 215$ second chance event finished phase 1 with 16 players and the 2nd phase never popped up at all.
I contacted support (bwin support never has any idea about poker issues but still had to try) and they said phase 2 was cancelled due to insufficient players ?

That's ridiculous, please look into it and let us know.
LOL, now we know what happened on Sunday one month ago as well....XD

The only thing to put in lobby (not behind an arrow) is the starting time of 6max stage. AND don t call it day2 !
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Old 04-17-2018, 10:59 AM   #1340
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

Received this correspondence from the Bwin rep in relation to PLO games on the leaderboard:

"As per the T&Cs only the power series tournaments with the suffix "Mi","L", "M", "H", "HR" or "SHR" will count to earn leaderboard points. As you can see the PLO events are currently not part of the power series."

So the PLO tournaments are listed under power series as a mistake I guess? Is this a joke?
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Old 04-17-2018, 10:59 AM   #1341
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

Farseer did you get the points in the end for your win in the PLO?
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Old 04-17-2018, 11:17 AM   #1342
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Farseer did you get the points in the end for your win in the PLO?
No, I didn't. I have never seen Party to correct their mistakes with leaderboard points (mostly happened with PLO and highrollers earlier) so I wouldn't expect them to do that this time either.
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Old 04-17-2018, 11:22 AM   #1343
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No, I didn't. I have never seen Party to correct their mistakes with leaderboard points (mostly happened with PLO and highrollers earlier) so I wouldn't expect them to do that this time either.
Thanks - wow what a joke. PLO is clearly listed under power series.
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Old 04-17-2018, 01:00 PM   #1344
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

Hi PartyRep

Which tournament exactly are you referring too please?

This was the first 22 sat for the 215 on Sunday 14:30.
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Old 04-17-2018, 03:15 PM   #1345
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

Mix max is a great idea for Monday, a lot of fun, good work again guys
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Old 04-17-2018, 07:06 PM   #1346
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experiencing lost connection on partypoker several times a day. is it normal or is it just me?
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Old 04-17-2018, 08:01 PM   #1347
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My biggest issue with Party is all the 6Max games:

1) Firstly full ring is vastly more popular than 6Max so why on earth would you have roughly the same amount of full ring vs. 6max?

2) You have changed your standard table sizes from 9max to 8max which in and of itself reduce the "need" for 6Max games

3) You have more players complaining about the lack of games, a key part of that is that they don't play 6Max (at least in my case). So by reducing the 6max games; not by simply removing but converting them into full ring games accomplishes many things at once

4) I literally don't play any games on Party after 9pm UK time, not because i don't want to but because they are ALL 6max or Satellites. Last time i check, you have three 6max games, then three Satellites and then another three 6max games! And since you only have few tournaments running/registering consistently that's like five hours of not being able to play anything i like and this is going to be very bad when Recreational players experience this. They may play a few 6Max because there is nothing else to play but after that what will they do? Personally i would love a another "label of events" of full ring at around 10pm-11pm which would finish by around 2am-3am. Since you have the labels "Main Events" and then "Second Chance" why not label these new/converted tournaments into "Final Chance" for that time-zone of players

5) And even with all the superfluous 6Max games you have you even manage to have entire days geared towards 6max! I simply don't login into Party on those days which means you loose the rake on the 6Max that i don't like and then you loose out on the additional rake from the 8Max i would have happily played. Again I expect this to be quite a prevalent issue with both Regs and Recreational players

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+1000
I already have said this 2 times.
I like theme days but can`t understand why they change the entire schedule due to theme day.some weeks i play friday and tuesday some others wensday and thursday it depends.why not having everyday something to play??6max days some people don t like it. give a little something to full ring lovers.psko days give a liitle something to people don t like psko.turbo days give a little something normal and deepstack.(hate to say but like jokestars).
Also previous post about Sunday.everything i played went pretty good.do you think that if there where 2 5$ and 2 11$ more they wouldn`t perform well too??
I would prefer smooth friday and turbo saturday.many people go out at saturday so it would be nice an early turbo sess.
Big schedule hopes after monster and powerfest.
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+1 to all of those points. Except that satellites during late evening is good, mainly because when I register at them I know that they won't last as long as regular tournament.
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pls stop this 6-max nonsense.
Party_Rep please address the 6max issues i addressed

Guys please comments if you think there are too many 6max games

One thought is to simply merge some buyin levels; so if you have three 6Max games starting at 10pm for example with $1, $5 and $27.5 convert them into two 6Max games with say $4.40 and $16.5 and then change the final 6Max game into an 8Max full ring one. If you do this seemingly easily change on all your 6Max-sets of three tournaments per Buyin then you instantly reduce your 6Max schedule bay a third

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Old 04-17-2018, 11:20 PM   #1348
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Guys please comments if you think there are too many 6max games

One thought is to simply merge some buyin levels; so if you have three 6Max games starting at 10pm for example with $1, $5 and $27.5 convert them into two 6Max games with say $4.40 and $16.5 and then change the final 6Max game into an 8Max full ring one. If you do this seemingly easily change on all your 6Max-sets of three tournaments per Buyin then you instantly reduce your 6Max schedule bay a third
Although I agree that there are now too many 6max games, I disagree with your thoughts on how to solve it.

Players have been asking for a while now for more buy-in levels, as the jumps between them we're too big eg: they we're set at $1.10/$5.50/$11/$22 for example.
To PP's credit, they have recently starting implementing more buy-in levels and set about reducing those jumps eg: now we're seeing buy-ins of $3.30/$4.40/$7.50/$16.50 etc...to go alongside the previous ones.

The last thing I would personally want to see is for PP to reduce (or merge as you put it) those buy-in levels and have it go back to resulting in big buy-in gaps/jumps again.
I would much prefer they simply make changes by way of reverting some of the 6max games back into 8/9max again, whilst leaving the buy-ins as they now are.

It's funny how it wasn't so long ago that everything was 8max and players called for change/variety, which is when the 6max came in. The problem is that, instead of selecting/changing just a few 8max to 6max, PP pretty much changed everything to 6max.
The same thing happened when the PKO bounty hunters came in - the schedule would go for hours at a time with only that format being available to play each hour and hardly any vanilla MTT's. That has now been rectified but, it highlights a common trend and the fact that PP seem to go all out, one way or another and don't seem to be able to implement changes by way of a balanced approach, which I think at the end of the day is what most players want in a poker site.

Surely it's not too hard to implement a schedule that has multiple buy-in levels, an even spread of 6max/8/9max MTT's, along with an even spread of formats eg: vanilla, PKO, Mix/Max, smooth etc...throughout each day?!

This whole "this day is this format and that day is that format" approach is putting players off.

A better solution would be to still have your 'themed days' for the Power Series etc...but, just run some 'key/special event's' under that theme on any given day and have the rest of that days schedule (other non-key/special events) offering a mix of formats and variety so, that players have various options to choose from and are more likely to log in/find something they like.
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Old 04-18-2018, 06:29 AM   #1349
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

With the reduced rake coming wouldn't 6max bounties be pretty lit tho? Prefer 6max for the PKOs
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Old 04-18-2018, 09:33 AM   #1350
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I'm so confused at the 6-max hate. When I used to play MTTs I faded regging 6-max stuff b/c it took more attention when mass tabling but it's inarguably way, way more fun than 8/9H. I would assume recreationals enjoy it more, too, because you get to play more hands. It's also better for regulars b/c their edge is bigger. So yeah, definitely confused at some of the sentiment in here.

Also don't agree *at all* w/ the idea of daily themes 'putting players off', I LOVE it. Some days I look forward to more than others but I enjoy them all. Think Pads/Party have done an awesome job so far. A few too many day-to-day tweaks for my liking but I can appreciate that they're optimizing the schedule on the fly based on data.
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