Ex-Official partypoker/bwin MTT Thread (No party poker support)
04-13-2018
, 07:00 AM
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What an insane sunday 6th of may will be with monster concluding and powerfest starting
(Schedule looks great but am i right there are no 2 day events?Only negative i can see).
Also have the mac issue of freezing log in screen.Software still very poor for mac users but will try play as much of both these series as i can.
(Schedule looks great but am i right there are no 2 day events?Only negative i can see).
Also have the mac issue of freezing log in screen.Software still very poor for mac users but will try play as much of both these series as i can.
04-13-2018
, 07:43 AM
Pads: if your "99% of people will be happy about this" announcement is that starting at powerfest all PKO's will no longer have the knockout part of the buyin raked, then, well done. That is truly great and removes one of the big downsides of pko's. If I just pointed out an error then I apologise to everyone who will play these 
04-13-2018
, 02:16 PM
Wish PartyPoker would make up their mind with scheduling...
I'd planned my 'Friday Fight Night' after printing off the schedule from the website literally just a couple of days ago (and promotion still displayed in client), then as I log in at about 7pm to play the
I see the whole promotion's been removed 
Edit: now seen that Saturdays promotion has been changed as well (and probably another days, but I can only usually play on weekends). And the Daily Najors have been changed around since I checked the schedule a coupole of days ago.
Maybe I missed a big announcement, but if I did then I'm sure a lot of other people did too...
I'd planned my 'Friday Fight Night' after printing off the schedule from the website literally just a couple of days ago (and promotion still displayed in client), then as I log in at about 7pm to play the
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Fight Night Friday Main Event-H: $100K Gtd
Edit: now seen that Saturdays promotion has been changed as well (and probably another days, but I can only usually play on weekends). And the Daily Najors have been changed around since I checked the schedule a coupole of days ago.
Maybe I missed a big announcement, but if I did then I'm sure a lot of other people did too...
Last edited by Street Urchin; 04-13-2018 at 02:29 PM.
04-13-2018
, 08:02 PM
When I go to the main 'tournaments' tab and then look under the 'power series' category (as can be seen in the pic above), I don't expect to see a power series schedule that is over-run and swamped with satellites showing. What I expect to see under this tab is the actual power series events only.
You have added so many satellites under the power series tab that, there now seems to be more satellites showing than actual power series events and having to scroll through them all searching for actual main events to play has become a real 'pain in the butt', especially as when scrolling it keeps jumping back to the start (separate issue)
You already have a 'satellites' category under the main 'tournaments' tab that I can view if I want to play a satellite so, there is no need to be doubling up on showing them under other tabs also. I understand you want to push your satellites to get players involved in them but, swamping other category tabs schedules with them (with no option of getting rid of them, as there isn't a satellites option under the 'format tab/filter') is overkill IMO and is frustrating for players such as myself.
If your going to continue doing this, then please at least update your filters and give us the option of filtering them out so, that we can simply just see the events that we are looking under particular tabs to see in the first place.
04-14-2018
, 06:24 AM
04-14-2018
, 06:43 AM
04-14-2018
, 06:46 AM
04-14-2018
, 07:03 AM
When I signed with partypoker a couple of years ago I met with the bosses in the Mondrian hotel in London. They asked me a lot about what my visions were and why I was interested in being a "sponsored" pro. I quickly corrected that I really didn't want to be a sponsored pro, I didn't want to be given tournament tickets and obliged to travel around the world with a patch on. Going to Caribbean is cool, going to Vegas is cool, going to Rozvadov is even cool but what is really cool for me is making sure that MTT players (thats the player pool I represent and can speak for because I have a very good understanding of the whole MTT market spending 12 hours/day with no days off for the last 4 years there) get;
1) Fair treatment,
2) The dream that its still possible to be a professional poker player,
3) A site that is fighting for them and stopping the industry become monopolized
I did an interview with Lee Davy who asked me about my intentions and I was very honest. I didn't want to make partypoker huge and the rest of the sites to die. I want partypoker to be amazing, offer the best product, have the biggest games and ultimately make the most money, but as somebody who cares about the industry it is important for me that the other sites are just behind because this will (don't worry I'll stop the lists soon
)
1) Ensure there is no monopoly
2) Offer players a choice, partypoker and no site will be EVERY single players cup of tea, its important theres options for all players out there
3) Ensure that we make decisions that are FOR the poker players and not trying to cash grab at every opportunity thats so easy when you have a monopoly (think of the happy hairdressers analogy from yesterdays twitter poll
)
Internally at poker sites the pros are usually the guys who are pretty cool, all of the staff like them, they get drunk together at events, socialise a lot etc. My relationship with partypoker is probably a little different, I am known to be the guy complaining a little bit too much, I was perhaps a little gung ho, but now I at least start the sentence off with "Sorry guys but..."
I want partypoker to be the guys making decisions in the industry and other people following us. I want us to be bold. I want us to be brave, but most importantly, I want us to be fair.
Prior to joining partypoker there used to be knockout tournaments, lets take a $22 tournament, it was a $10+1 and then there was a $10 bounty on the side for the players. They were very popular, everybody else raked it this fair way so partypoker did too (we were more following the industry than leading it) Along came now the monstrous PSKO format of poker and somehow, the industry allowed the bounty part to just overnight be raked too. Wait what? WHy? Who? These questions didn't matter too much and naturally we followed the industry and started to rake these too. There are a lot of problems with this and even more so in a PSKO tournament than a normal bounty tournament. Let me give you an example.
You register a $20 tournament. There are 1000 players. The prizepool (after the $2 rake) is $20,000. $10,000 in the normal main prizepool and $10,000 in the other prizepool. You register on time and away you go. 3 hours later (some PSKOs on other sites offer up to 5 hours late reg) there is now 350 people left in the tournament. My Mum (shout out Mum <3) goes to register (she doesn't know the rake and its hidden from her on some sites) and now what does the prizepool stand at? $10,000 + $10,000? NO! 650 people have been knocked out, that means that the prizepools stand at $10,000 + $6000-$3500 (depending on the % of PSKO of course) so my Mother is paying the same rake for a tournament that she pays $22 and there is $13500 remaining whilst my noisy neighbour from across the street who gets there on time plays for $20,000? Wait, thats not fair, and I've just started...... There is a lot of other things to consider, my Mother registering late with 30bbs is going to be against average stacks of 50-60bbs, she will have a very poor chance of getting a knockout, her equity of that $10,000 bounty prizepool, oh no wait, $3500 prizepool is a lot lower than if she had an average stack.
The industry is pushing PSKO's very strongly, sites have their biggest tournaments in this format. I used to hate the format, but I've been sold, recreationals and regulars alike OBVIOUSLY like them a lot, but we as an industry and more importantly me as an ambassador have to stand up for our format and make sure that it is regulated fairly and correctly. We can't allow for sites to EXTEND late registration period and the bounty side of the prizepool needs to be QUICKLY slashed if not completely removed. I lobbied very hard with the team at partypoker, explained all sides, the pros, the cons (its v expensive!!) and showed from a players point of view that this isn't fair and I would certainly not feel comfortable representing a company that agreed with what I said but wouldn't change it.
partypoker have agreed to make the change of not reducing, but completely removing the rake of the bounty side of PSKO's, meaning there is a 40-60% rake reduction on a huge amount of games on the site. They have agreed to do this for 6 months and if the players support them and people support the site that now wants to listen to its pros and make decisions that positively impacts pros rather than their own bottom line then I think this will not only be a permanent change, but it will allow us to continue making positive strides and changes in this industry.
Today I am very proud to say I represent partypoker.
Read more fine details here:
https://www.partypoker.com/blog/part...powerfest.html
1) Fair treatment,
2) The dream that its still possible to be a professional poker player,
3) A site that is fighting for them and stopping the industry become monopolized
I did an interview with Lee Davy who asked me about my intentions and I was very honest. I didn't want to make partypoker huge and the rest of the sites to die. I want partypoker to be amazing, offer the best product, have the biggest games and ultimately make the most money, but as somebody who cares about the industry it is important for me that the other sites are just behind because this will (don't worry I'll stop the lists soon
)1) Ensure there is no monopoly
2) Offer players a choice, partypoker and no site will be EVERY single players cup of tea, its important theres options for all players out there
3) Ensure that we make decisions that are FOR the poker players and not trying to cash grab at every opportunity thats so easy when you have a monopoly (think of the happy hairdressers analogy from yesterdays twitter poll
)Internally at poker sites the pros are usually the guys who are pretty cool, all of the staff like them, they get drunk together at events, socialise a lot etc. My relationship with partypoker is probably a little different, I am known to be the guy complaining a little bit too much, I was perhaps a little gung ho, but now I at least start the sentence off with "Sorry guys but..."
I want partypoker to be the guys making decisions in the industry and other people following us. I want us to be bold. I want us to be brave, but most importantly, I want us to be fair.
Prior to joining partypoker there used to be knockout tournaments, lets take a $22 tournament, it was a $10+1 and then there was a $10 bounty on the side for the players. They were very popular, everybody else raked it this fair way so partypoker did too (we were more following the industry than leading it) Along came now the monstrous PSKO format of poker and somehow, the industry allowed the bounty part to just overnight be raked too. Wait what? WHy? Who? These questions didn't matter too much and naturally we followed the industry and started to rake these too. There are a lot of problems with this and even more so in a PSKO tournament than a normal bounty tournament. Let me give you an example.
You register a $20 tournament. There are 1000 players. The prizepool (after the $2 rake) is $20,000. $10,000 in the normal main prizepool and $10,000 in the other prizepool. You register on time and away you go. 3 hours later (some PSKOs on other sites offer up to 5 hours late reg) there is now 350 people left in the tournament. My Mum (shout out Mum <3) goes to register (she doesn't know the rake and its hidden from her on some sites) and now what does the prizepool stand at? $10,000 + $10,000? NO! 650 people have been knocked out, that means that the prizepools stand at $10,000 + $6000-$3500 (depending on the % of PSKO of course) so my Mother is paying the same rake for a tournament that she pays $22 and there is $13500 remaining whilst my noisy neighbour from across the street who gets there on time plays for $20,000? Wait, thats not fair, and I've just started...... There is a lot of other things to consider, my Mother registering late with 30bbs is going to be against average stacks of 50-60bbs, she will have a very poor chance of getting a knockout, her equity of that $10,000 bounty prizepool, oh no wait, $3500 prizepool is a lot lower than if she had an average stack.
The industry is pushing PSKO's very strongly, sites have their biggest tournaments in this format. I used to hate the format, but I've been sold, recreationals and regulars alike OBVIOUSLY like them a lot, but we as an industry and more importantly me as an ambassador have to stand up for our format and make sure that it is regulated fairly and correctly. We can't allow for sites to EXTEND late registration period and the bounty side of the prizepool needs to be QUICKLY slashed if not completely removed. I lobbied very hard with the team at partypoker, explained all sides, the pros, the cons (its v expensive!!) and showed from a players point of view that this isn't fair and I would certainly not feel comfortable representing a company that agreed with what I said but wouldn't change it.
partypoker have agreed to make the change of not reducing, but completely removing the rake of the bounty side of PSKO's, meaning there is a 40-60% rake reduction on a huge amount of games on the site. They have agreed to do this for 6 months and if the players support them and people support the site that now wants to listen to its pros and make decisions that positively impacts pros rather than their own bottom line then I think this will not only be a permanent change, but it will allow us to continue making positive strides and changes in this industry.
Today I am very proud to say I represent partypoker.
Read more fine details here:
https://www.partypoker.com/blog/part...powerfest.html
Last edited by OurSurveySays; 04-14-2018 at 07:13 AM.
04-14-2018
, 07:09 AM
04-14-2018
, 07:29 AM
Quote:
When I signed with partypoker a couple of years ago I met with the bosses in the Mondrian hotel in London. They asked me a lot about what my visions were and why I was interested in being a "sponsored" pro. I quickly corrected that I really didn't want to be a sponsored pro, I didn't want to be given tournament tickets and obliged to travel around the world with a patch on. Going to Caribbean is cool, going to Vegas is cool, going to Rozvadov is even cool but what is really cool for me is making sure that MTT players (thats the player pool I represent and can speak for because I have a very good understanding of the whole MTT market spending 12 hours/day with no days off for the last 4 years there) get;
1) Fair treatment,
2) The dream that its still possible to be a professional poker player,
3) A site that is fighting for them and stopping the industry become monopolized
I did an interview with Lee Davy who asked me about my intentions and I was very honest. I didn't want to make partypoker huge and the rest of the sites to die. I want partypoker to be amazing, offer the best product, have the biggest games and ultimately make the most money, but as somebody who cares about the industry it is important for me that the other sites are just behind because this will (don't worry I'll stop the lists soon)
1) Ensure there is no monopoly
2) Offer players a choice, partypoker and no site will be EVERY single players cup of tea, its important theres options for all players out there
3) Ensure that we make decisions that are FOR the poker players and not trying to cash grab at every opportunity thats so easy when you have a monopoly (think of the happy hairdressers analogy from yesterdays twitter poll)
Internally at poker sites the pros are usually the guys who are pretty cool, all of the staff like them, they get drunk together at events, socialise a lot etc. My relationship with partypoker is probably a little different, I am known to be the guy complaining a little bit too much, I was perhaps a little gung ho, but now I at least start the sentence off with "Sorry guys but..."
I want partypoker to be the guys making decisions in the industry and other people following us. I want us to be bold. I want us to be brave, but most importantly, I want us to be fair.
Prior to joining partypoker there used to be knockout tournaments, lets take a $22 tournament, it was a $10+1 and then there was a $10 bounty on the side for the players. They were very popular, everybody else raked it this fair way so partypoker did too (we were more following the industry than leading it) Along came now the monstrous PSKO format of poker and somehow, the industry allowed the bounty part to just overnight be raked too. Wait what? WHy? Who? These questions didn't matter too much and naturally we followed the industry and started to rake these too. There are a lot of problems with this and even more so in a PSKO tournament than a normal bounty tournament. Let me give you an example.
You register a $20 tournament. There are 1000 players. The prizepool (after the $2 rake) is $20,000. $10,000 in the normal main prizepool and $10,000 in the other prizepool. You register on time and away you go. 3 hours later (some PSKOs on other sites offer up to 5 hours late reg) there is now 350 people left in the tournament. My Mum (shout out Mum <3) goes to register (she doesn't know the rake and its hidden from her on some sites) and now what does the prizepool stand at? $10,000 + $10,000? NO! 650 people have been knocked out, that means that the prizepools stand at $10,000 + $6000-$3500 (depending on the % of PSKO of course) so my Mother is paying the same rake for a tournament that she pays $22 and there is $13500 remaining whilst my noisy neighbour from across the street who gets there on time plays for $20,000? Wait, thats not fair, and I've just started...... There is a lot of other things to consider, my Mother registering late with 30bbs is going to be against average stacks of 50-60bbs, she will have a very poor chance of getting a knockout, her equity of that $10,000 bounty prizepool, oh no wait, $3500 prizepool is a lot lower than if she had an average stack.
The industry is pushing PSKO's very strongly, sites have their biggest tournaments in this format. I used to hate the format, but I've been sold, recreationals and regulars alike OBVIOUSLY like them a lot, but we as an industry and more importantly me as an ambassador have to stand up for our format and make sure that it is regulated fairly and correctly. We can't allow for sites to EXTEND late registration period and the bounty side of the prizepool needs to be QUICKLY slashed if not completely removed. I lobbied very hard with the team at partypoker, explained all sides, the pros, the cons (its v expensive!!) and showed from a players point of view that this isn't fair and I would certainly not feel comfortable representing a company that agreed with what I said but wouldn't change it.
partypoker have agreed to make the change of not reducing, but completely removing the rake of the bounty side of PSKO's, meaning there is a 40-60% rake reduction on a huge amount of games on the site. They have agreed to do this for 6 months and if the players support them and people support the site that now wants to listen to its pros and make decisions that positively impacts pros rather than their own bottom line then I think this will not only be a permanent change, but it will allow us to continue making positive strides and changes in this industry.
Today I am very proud to say I represent partypoker.
Read more fine details here:
https://www.partypoker.com/blog/part...powerfest.html
1) Fair treatment,
2) The dream that its still possible to be a professional poker player,
3) A site that is fighting for them and stopping the industry become monopolized
I did an interview with Lee Davy who asked me about my intentions and I was very honest. I didn't want to make partypoker huge and the rest of the sites to die. I want partypoker to be amazing, offer the best product, have the biggest games and ultimately make the most money, but as somebody who cares about the industry it is important for me that the other sites are just behind because this will (don't worry I'll stop the lists soon
)1) Ensure there is no monopoly
2) Offer players a choice, partypoker and no site will be EVERY single players cup of tea, its important theres options for all players out there
3) Ensure that we make decisions that are FOR the poker players and not trying to cash grab at every opportunity thats so easy when you have a monopoly (think of the happy hairdressers analogy from yesterdays twitter poll
)Internally at poker sites the pros are usually the guys who are pretty cool, all of the staff like them, they get drunk together at events, socialise a lot etc. My relationship with partypoker is probably a little different, I am known to be the guy complaining a little bit too much, I was perhaps a little gung ho, but now I at least start the sentence off with "Sorry guys but..."
I want partypoker to be the guys making decisions in the industry and other people following us. I want us to be bold. I want us to be brave, but most importantly, I want us to be fair.
Prior to joining partypoker there used to be knockout tournaments, lets take a $22 tournament, it was a $10+1 and then there was a $10 bounty on the side for the players. They were very popular, everybody else raked it this fair way so partypoker did too (we were more following the industry than leading it) Along came now the monstrous PSKO format of poker and somehow, the industry allowed the bounty part to just overnight be raked too. Wait what? WHy? Who? These questions didn't matter too much and naturally we followed the industry and started to rake these too. There are a lot of problems with this and even more so in a PSKO tournament than a normal bounty tournament. Let me give you an example.
You register a $20 tournament. There are 1000 players. The prizepool (after the $2 rake) is $20,000. $10,000 in the normal main prizepool and $10,000 in the other prizepool. You register on time and away you go. 3 hours later (some PSKOs on other sites offer up to 5 hours late reg) there is now 350 people left in the tournament. My Mum (shout out Mum <3) goes to register (she doesn't know the rake and its hidden from her on some sites) and now what does the prizepool stand at? $10,000 + $10,000? NO! 650 people have been knocked out, that means that the prizepools stand at $10,000 + $6000-$3500 (depending on the % of PSKO of course) so my Mother is paying the same rake for a tournament that she pays $22 and there is $13500 remaining whilst my noisy neighbour from across the street who gets there on time plays for $20,000? Wait, thats not fair, and I've just started...... There is a lot of other things to consider, my Mother registering late with 30bbs is going to be against average stacks of 50-60bbs, she will have a very poor chance of getting a knockout, her equity of that $10,000 bounty prizepool, oh no wait, $3500 prizepool is a lot lower than if she had an average stack.
The industry is pushing PSKO's very strongly, sites have their biggest tournaments in this format. I used to hate the format, but I've been sold, recreationals and regulars alike OBVIOUSLY like them a lot, but we as an industry and more importantly me as an ambassador have to stand up for our format and make sure that it is regulated fairly and correctly. We can't allow for sites to EXTEND late registration period and the bounty side of the prizepool needs to be QUICKLY slashed if not completely removed. I lobbied very hard with the team at partypoker, explained all sides, the pros, the cons (its v expensive!!) and showed from a players point of view that this isn't fair and I would certainly not feel comfortable representing a company that agreed with what I said but wouldn't change it.
partypoker have agreed to make the change of not reducing, but completely removing the rake of the bounty side of PSKO's, meaning there is a 40-60% rake reduction on a huge amount of games on the site. They have agreed to do this for 6 months and if the players support them and people support the site that now wants to listen to its pros and make decisions that positively impacts pros rather than their own bottom line then I think this will not only be a permanent change, but it will allow us to continue making positive strides and changes in this industry.
Today I am very proud to say I represent partypoker.
Read more fine details here:
https://www.partypoker.com/blog/part...powerfest.html
PartyPoker Staff Pads
04-14-2018
, 07:47 AM
