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Old 01-14-2018, 07:28 PM   #76
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Exactly.... can somebody explain this ridiculous restriction? It's complete nonsense. You literally forcing micro/lowstakes players to play highstakes tournaments where you can take their money instead of allow them to play lowstakes 22$.

At least let them decide for themselves whether they want to play 22$ freezout or another step into HS
Agree 100% .Very incorrect rule
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Old 01-14-2018, 08:05 PM   #77
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Back to back PKOs at 5pm and 6pm might not be the best idea. If some of daily specials will be PKO you might end up with PKOs for 4 hours in a row. Better put rebuy tournaments with big guarantee at 5pm or 6pm. Big rebuy tournament might work as daily special as well.

Why do you want to rebrand title fight or uppercut? I don't think it is necessary.

Why do you want Friday as fast day? People usually don't work on Saturday and deepsatck tourneys might work on Friday. Probably people might want to play something fast on Monday (after Sunday grind).

Idea for daily specials - two identical tournaments awarding one ticket for respective buy-in if you cash in both events.
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Old 01-14-2018, 08:07 PM   #78
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I have been working on this the last 3/4 days...

UK times:

4pm - Daily Special (Early edition) (different price points and game types)
5pm- New branded bounty ($215?)
6pm- New branded bounty ($109?)
7pm - Daily Special (Main event) (different price points and game types)
7pm/730 - Daily $530 highroller thats always ran
8pm - Rebranded uppercut $109 with same guarantee
9pm - Daily big turbo
10pm - Daily Special (late edition)
11pm - New branded bounty turbo

Daily specials (first draft!)

Monday - ?? Need suggestions
Tuesday - Supersized, $1k main event
Wednesday - 6max
Thursday - Supersized Knockout
Friday - Fast
Saturday - Slow
Sunday - Special


What is peoples first thoughts on this?

Classic, further thinkering the high stakes schedule and no word on your mid/low schedule that is currently only turbos, nearly all dumb KOs and literally the biggest trainwreck schedule on the entire planet in general

You can probably guess my thoughts
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Old 01-14-2018, 08:47 PM   #79
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Classic, further thinkering the high stakes schedule and no word on your mid/low schedule that is currently only turbos, nearly all dumb KOs and literally the biggest trainwreck schedule on the entire planet in general

You can probably guess my thoughts
All have their equivalent minis/micros of course.
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Old 01-14-2018, 08:54 PM   #80
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Patrick can you please explain why there are restriction on 22$ satellites tickets? I was asking this like 5 times and everybody ignores that
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Old 01-14-2018, 09:05 PM   #81
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Patrick can you please explain why there are restriction on 22$ satellites tickets? I was asking this like 5 times and everybody ignores that
Sorry, I'm not sure on satalite policy as well as lots of other things, I'm sure Collete will reply to you, she does a great job of keeping on top of all things. I am simply explaining rationale behind some business decisions regarding schedule/structures etc.
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Old 01-14-2018, 09:06 PM   #82
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While it's nice to see you have acknowledged the need to add 6-max games, please for the love of god don't Have your only 6-max games running on Wednesday and none every other day of the week.
Which game in the schedule I posted would you replace for 6max and why? As far as I can see on other sites there is no successful $55+ 6max tournament that runs at all (that isnt a weekly) having successful 6max tournaments once/week allows us to gauge interest/popularity for them, we of course have during powerfest.
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Old 01-14-2018, 09:09 PM   #83
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Back to back PKOs at 5pm and 6pm might not be the best idea. If some of daily specials will be PKO you might end up with PKOs for 4 hours in a row. Better put rebuy tournaments with big guarantee at 5pm or 6pm. Big rebuy tournament might work as daily special as well.

Why do you want to rebrand title fight or uppercut? I don't think it is necessary.

Why do you want Friday as fast day? People usually don't work on Saturday and deepsatck tourneys might work on Friday. Probably people might want to play something fast on Monday (after Sunday grind).

Idea for daily specials - two identical tournaments awarding one ticket for respective buy-in if you cash in both events.
In the mock up we change

5pm 109 pko
5pm 215 pko
5pm 530 pko

to

4pm special
5pm 109 pko
6pm 215 pko
7pm special
8pm uppercut
8pm highroller
9pm turbo

I think this format makes a lot of sense and having uppercut/highroller or turbo earlier in that slot wouldnt really make sense.

In terms of fast friday or fast saturday, everything is up for debate, i think in general people like to crack open a beer and grind friday nights rather than necessarily really grind it out long and slow.

i think generally daily doubles or whatever are relatively cannabalistic, we're trying to move away from multiple tournaments in one time slot.
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Old 01-14-2018, 10:38 PM   #84
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Any plans for special edition power fest sit and go hero?
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Old 01-14-2018, 11:41 PM   #85
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Which game in the schedule I posted would you replace for 6max and why? As far as I can see on other sites there is no successful $55+ 6max tournament that runs at all (that isnt a weekly) having successful 6max tournaments once/week allows us to gauge interest/popularity for them, we of course have during powerfest.


You've got to seriously be kidding w this statement pads. I have no idea what specifically to replace anything w anything but you certainly need some 6 max in the schedule. And who said it needs to be $55+. Why can't we have a daily $5.50, or $11, plus a $22 6 max major. Everything doesn't have to be HS. And these consistently ran before you guys pulled them out of the blue for no reason. And past powerfests HAVE proved it to be popular. Most dbl'd every gtd. how is it Any better to run these super small withered ridiculous pko's that fill wayyyy to much of the schedule. VARIETY man! Like seriously. You can absolutely sustain a daily major turbo 6-max 1-1.5 hrs after late reg ends on the other majors. You can, and have more then 1 / day also. Everything now starts on the hour for no good reason. Add in some 6-max games every couple hours like it was in the past on the :30's. Ffs why is this so difficult.


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Old 01-15-2018, 12:47 AM   #86
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You've got to seriously be kidding w this statement pads. I have no idea what specifically to replace anything w anything but you certainly need some 6 max in the schedule. And who said it needs to be $55+. Why can't we have a daily $5.50, or $11, plus a $22 6 max major. Everything doesn't have to be HS. And these consistently ran before you guys pulled them out of the blue for no reason. And past powerfests HAVE proved it to be popular. Most dbl'd every gtd. how is it Any better to run these super small withered ridiculous pko's that fill wayyyy to much of the schedule. VARIETY man! Like seriously. You can absolutely sustain a daily major turbo 6-max 1-1.5 hrs after late reg ends on the other majors. You can, and have more then 1 / day also. Everything now starts on the hour for no good reason. Add in some 6-max games every couple hours like it was in the past on the :30's. Ffs why is this so difficult.


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I was suggesting more that it is not a popular format of poker. I love 6max dont get me wrong and have been sad when almost all versions of it have died elsewhere because of poor participation numbers vs rival tournament types. Lets see how 6max performs in the series this month, in the upcoming series and during special days, it would please nobody more than me to get a healthy amount of 6max on the schedule.
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Old 01-15-2018, 04:33 AM   #87
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Exactly.... can somebody explain this ridiculous restriction? It's complete nonsense. You literally forcing micro/lowstakes players to play highstakes tournaments where you can take their money instead of allow them to play lowstakes 22$.

At least let them decide for themselves whether they want to play 22$ freezout or another step into HS
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Patrick can you please explain why there are restriction on 22$ satellites tickets? I was asking this like 5 times and everybody ignores that
It's not ignored, it has been stated several times on these forums

The lower end sats are there to specifically feed the $109 events and we offer no alternative option for any level lower the $109 - asides the limited $55 sats

This decision will stand and although feedback has been shared - these are unlikely to change

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Old 01-15-2018, 04:47 AM   #88
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In the mock up we change

5pm 109 pko
5pm 215 pko
5pm 530 pko

to

4pm special
5pm 109 pko
6pm 215 pko
7pm special
8pm uppercut
8pm highroller
9pm turbo

I think this format makes a lot of sense and having uppercut/highroller or turbo earlier in that slot wouldnt really make sense.

In terms of fast friday or fast saturday, everything is up for debate, i think in general people like to crack open a beer and grind friday nights rather than necessarily really grind it out long and slow.

i think generally daily doubles or whatever are relatively cannabalistic, we're trying to move away from multiple tournaments in one time slot.
i disagree i think most people stay up far later on a friday and saturday night cos they don't have to get up for work. makes way more sense to have a deep stack on a friday or saturday and a fast mtt on a monday.
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Old 01-15-2018, 06:35 AM   #89
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It's not ignored, it has been stated several times on these forums

The lower end sats are there to specifically feed the $109 events and we offer no alternative option for any level lower the $109 - asides the limited $55 sats

This decision will stand and although feedback has been shared - these are unlikely to change

Thanks

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Just LOL
How many people you think are going to play to win 3-4 sats just to play a 100$ tour??
I personally play them only to jump to the 22/100$ sats for live.
I have the feeling that the decisions around mtts are taken by people that have never played mtts.
Just give the decisions keys to Pads.
AND BIGGER BLIND LEVELS TO MICRO/LOW.
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Old 01-15-2018, 07:05 AM   #90
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In terms of fast friday or fast saturday, everything is up for debate, i think in general people like to crack open a beer and grind friday nights rather than necessarily really grind it out long and slow.
I'm not sure I 100% agree with the above. I'm sure there are a number of people who do fit into the category you've described however, I also think there would be an equal number of people who would actually like to "grind it out long and slow", especially on a Friday evening.

For many who play poker and are busy during the week, Friday evening marks the start of there 3 day poker binge weekend and it's something they look forward to all week. They login on a Friday evening, and look to get stuck into some poker, without the concerns of having work etc...the next day.

I think there would be a great number of these types of people (amongst others) who would actually appreciate a Friday evening deep stack event to grind and get there weekend started with. I don't see why you couldn't offer one at various buy-in levels (so, all BR levels are catered for and everyone can participate) and make it some type of 'special'.

I personally tend to view Friday evening as an opportunity to offer something different to the 'norm' and to attract players (such as the one's i've mentioned) to the site. These players would no doubt also jump into other games alongside something like a deep stack event and more often than not, continue playing on the site for the rest of there 'poker binge weekend', as long as a decent schedule is offered and flows on from the Friday night special.
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Old 01-15-2018, 07:39 AM   #91
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i think i understand now who/what the Problem is....

...other People should make this Job...- you should Play poker and thats it.
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Old 01-15-2018, 09:49 AM   #92
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Why is there such a big gap in the buy-in tree for live event sats? The bottom level of all trees is $0.50 and the next level is $22. That means you have to win a 1:44 sat as a low stakes player to get on the tree. Did they not feed $5.50 or $8.80 sats before? This price point offers small BR players a slightly easier way to progress from the lowest buy-in up or let players skip the first step without going to $22 straight away.

I agree with others that the generic sats that pay out tickets that can only be used for the next level of the sat tree are misleading and not very good for a casual player. If they have to stay they should be renamed to steps so it is clear what you're buying in for. My understanding from the replies about the sat tickets is that if I play a centroll and win a ticket to a $1.10 I cannot win any actual money until I win another 3 sats possibly and then actually cash a $109 or above MTT. For someone playing up to $5 or $11 MTTs this does not seem like a worthwhile thing to get involved in.

Why are there no sats to daily tournaments? The thrill of paying < $12 to get into a $55 or above MTT on any given day is something I would have though casual players would like. I know I would Sats to win Brawl/Counterpunch/Contender/Jab/etc tickets seem like they would be much more rewarding for players and gives them a little flexibility on when they can play.
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Old 01-15-2018, 10:28 AM   #93
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In terms of fast friday or fast saturday, everything is up for debate, i think in general people like to crack open a beer and grind friday nights rather than necessarily really grind it out long and slow.

i think generally daily doubles or whatever are relatively cannabalistic, we're trying to move away from multiple tournaments in one time slot.
1 - I'm not sure why we need to have a "fast" anything, just mix in some turbo's along with a normal schedule instead of a day full of turbo's imo.

2 - I think having tournaments only start on the hour is pritty cannibalistic in itself, i would be very surprised if say a $215, $109 and $55 all starting on the hour would perform better than if they were more spread out. Also because of the shorter late reg, you are kinda forcing players to play at certain times. If a player busted the 1st hand of a tournament maybe they don't want to wait for an hour to play another.

Personally i would play more on the site if there were more time slots rather than having to wait so long for tournaments and prolonging my session by hours.
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Old 01-15-2018, 11:36 AM   #94
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Why is there such a big gap in the buy-in tree for live event sats? The bottom level of all trees is $0.50 and the next level is $22. That means you have to win a 1:44 sat as a low stakes player to get on the tree. Did they not feed $5.50 or $8.80 sats before? This price point offers small BR players a slightly easier way to progress from the lowest buy-in up or let players skip the first step without going to $22 straight away.

I agree with others that the generic sats that pay out tickets that can only be used for the next level of the sat tree are misleading and not very good for a casual player. If they have to stay they should be renamed to steps so it is clear what you're buying in for. My understanding from the replies about the sat tickets is that if I play a centroll and win a ticket to a $1.10 I cannot win any actual money until I win another 3 sats possibly and then actually cash a $109 or above MTT. For someone playing up to $5 or $11 MTTs this does not seem like a worthwhile thing to get involved in.

Why are there no sats to daily tournaments? The thrill of paying < $12 to get into a $55 or above MTT on any given day is something I would have though casual players would like. I know I would Sats to win Brawl/Counterpunch/Contender/Jab/etc tickets seem like they would be much more rewarding for players and gives them a little flexibility on when they can play.
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Why is there such a big gap in the buy-in tree for live event sats? The bottom level of all trees is $0.50 and the next level is $22. That means you have to win a 1:44 sat as a low stakes player to get on the tree. Did they not feed $5.50 or $8.80 sats before? This price point offers small BR players a slightly easier way to progress from the lowest buy-in up or let players skip the first step without going to $22 straight away.

I agree with others that the generic sats that pay out tickets that can only be used for the next level of the sat tree are misleading and not very good for a casual player. If they have to stay they should be renamed to steps so it is clear what you're buying in for. My understanding from the replies about the sat tickets is that if I play a centroll and win a ticket to a $1.10 I cannot win any actual money until I win another 3 sats possibly and then actually cash a $109 or above MTT. For someone playing up to $5 or $11 MTTs this does not seem like a worthwhile thing to get involved in.

Why are there no sats to daily tournaments? The thrill of paying < $12 to get into a $55 or above MTT on any given day is something I would have though casual players would like. I know I would Sats to win Brawl/Counterpunch/Contender/Jab/etc tickets seem like they would be much more rewarding for players and gives them a little flexibility on when they can play.
Good post.

The current satellite situation on Party is designed for the sole purpose of feeding micro players to HS players. As you stated there are no exit points for a low stake player to build a bank roll. He has to win a labyrinth of sats just to play in a MTT he really has no business playing in.

With tickets and no chance to earn $T money it makes 1 in xx rec players happy when they cash the big tourney... but it leaves the other xx broke and dispirited. I don't suggest all sats offer $T money for unregging or subsequent qualifiers... but some balance is needed.
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It's not ignored, it has been stated several times on these forums

The lower end sats are there to specifically feed the $109 events and we offer no alternative option for any level lower the $109 - asides the limited $55 sats

This decision will stand and although feedback has been shared - these are unlikely to change

Thanks

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Ok thank you for answer... but let me allow to strongly disagree with this. Last 2-3 years we are listening from all sides how poker eco culture has to be changes, how drastically changes had to be applied, decreased rakeback and thats all because of time has changed. System need new players etc. etc...

And partypoker ( which is obv. focus on HS players and is doing almost everything for HS players) is saying that they dont change satellite structures and still will be forcing to donate money from low stakes players to high stakes sharks .. thats everything but not good at all.

And if Patrick reads this and agree with such a policy as poker ambassador then its even more sad.

You all have my respect for what you have done in recent months regarding changes in schedule, software etc. you're doing good job, that you're trying to listen people but the satellite structures is one of the worst things on this site, mostly it dont play its role ( if we dont count sats for live tournamets). Because 80% tournaments dont even have their own satellites. Only few highstakes has.
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Old 01-15-2018, 03:31 PM   #97
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If there needs to be fast day it really should be Friday. People may like to play some quick games and then go to town, while otherwise that's the day when fewest players play.

PLO Monday would make most sense imo. either 0,55$/5,5$/55$ or 2,2$/11$/55$ (with open chance for PLO HR in future if you get numbers).

And +1 for no early PKOs for obvious reasons. Or max one around 6 pm.
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havent loggin into party for a while. nice to see some $11 mtts in the morning schedule, will be depositing and playing. thanks
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Old 01-16-2018, 09:32 AM   #100
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Just saw the structures of Powerfest and all seem a bit fast. Same structures for you're Powerfest events as the ones for the normal MTT schedule? Even the 2100 HR has 10 min blindlevels. 2 hours in and the startstack is equal of 20bb. Should've complained earlier because it's to late to change now ( probably? ) but only saw it a few minutes ago.

Pretty dissapointing to see this. What's the reason behind these fast structures Pads?
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