Well it's of course matter of point of view, but last 3 months I have played far less in Party than ever before since when I started to play in Party 2012. Effectively just a bunch of satellites since they don't last forever. Part of the reason is holiday, but major reason is that tournament offering is non-existent if one wants to launch a quick session on MTTs. Or at least win something meaningful if session strechts longer.

There simply is currently nothing worth playing in PartyPoker MTT schedule, unless one can afford to play 10+ hours session. Earlier there were at least some turbo rebuys, PLO8s etc. that had reasonable prizepools and running time. And along those one could catch some medium-field NLH during late reg and most of the time finish it around 4-6 hours. Now structures are so super ultra deep and late reg short which makes this impossible.

I am not against PKOs per se as my favorite format is (hyper NLO8) PKO, but I don't like Party's super slow structures and NL Hold'em PKOs are also more boring / less skill incentive than PLO / PLO8 / NLO8 PKOs. And because one has to play PKOs from the beginning for not to lose value, that means that most tournaments take 10+ hours to finish and at least 8+ hours before they reach any meaningful prizes. Progressive Knock-outs should be action game, not some super long marathon.

While I am writing this there's still running some 1,1$ and 5,5$ PKOs with less than 1k runners which started 9,5 hours ago. That's just ridiculous imo. when 4th place gets like 20 buy-ins. With so many intermediate levels 12 min levels in Party is like 20+ min levels on any other site. It's like you would need to make turbos 3 min levels to get same as other sites with 5 min levels.

It's not like I want everything to be hyper, turbo, PLO or PLO8. Even I can play some deepstack once in a while, especially alongside faster tournaments. But when most "turbos" on Party are far slower than regular tournaments on any other site, it's clear there's nothing for us who want to fire quick sessions once in a while. I just simply get a much better playing experience + value if I play on Stars for non-hold'em tournaments and MPN + bunch on other sites/networks for Hold'em.

So from my POV speaking... I can play long sessions, I just don't enjoy them. So it's gotta be a juicy carrot (LB packages) which makes me to play long sessions which are tormenting, while I can play shorter sessions for lower value (for fun).

Fair enough but all the critique seems to be about the clocks, which I've mentioned is being looked at for at least some tournaments and is only a small part of a schedule imo. Aside from that I do think the schedule is much better than what it used to be, no?

Not really. There's no PLO8s, no rebuys, not many PLOs. Almost every site has somewhat decent offering of regular vanilla MTT Hold'em, but Party has currently worst structures. Some satellites might be tempting, if target tournaments wouldn't last for ages. Personally I don't really care too much if guaranteed is $10k or $250k, but I care if I have to reserve 12+ hours instead of like 6.

I think Party really would need far more tournaments too in addition to more variety. And not everything starting at :00.

youre right i was only looking the slow versions didnt played since long time here. hm weird to name one tourney as slow and the only difference from all the other mtt is that they are run with 4minute longer levels. yeah should be one or two slow version daily and the rest is normal like on ps

For me i dont have to best words to explain it but i have a lot of problem with it but the biggest is the tournament length .Personally i dont like tours on Party before this schedule too because a very little variety but i could add 2-3 turbos or the Jab,Contender but now for me the tourneys length is too long and i can add 0 tournaments.

My opinion is u cant meet every players wish it is clear. But u should add some deep tourneys and some turbos . Yes u added turbos but ur turbos is too deep and adding too late. U need to add turbos earlier . And all of ur normal structured tournaments shouldnt be too deep.And more Variety rebuys,hypers, rebuy turbos etc

Agreee every tournament is Marathon it is nice to add some but not all

It is Pads bull**** that every tournaments should be so big . Nooo *** it 200-300players fields are ok . Yes u need some 1-2K player field for bigger prizepools but it is not a fail when u have some smaller tournaments with 100-300player field even on lowstakes.

i would just copy stars structures for marathon and bigs and adjust to party starting stacks. one is slow one is normal. it works well on ps.

I love the longer levels and overall slower structures, but have to admit that for some particular tourneys they should be adjusted.

Just took a look at the 215 1M Gtd PSKO next Sunday, part of the KO Series, and it seems to be a one day event. Any chance this becomes a 2-day thing? Because if left as is with the 14 min lvls it's probably going to last over 14-15 hours (which is almost midday in Europe on Monday), which is certainly not OK. Don't think that there's anyone, day job or no, who would like to have to make decisions worth 1000s in EV after a 15 hour session

Thoughts on this?

Like the addition at 17:30 cet the turbos . Add more and more and more variety.Finally some tours that not starting at :00

Just watch the ft of party millions in rozvadov...
Wtf the final hand when isildur tank hero call with Kh6 the camera the whole time isildur is tanking is on him, next time hire some competent cameramans that know that viewers want to see how player whobis puting presure is acting, imo no one prefers to look how some guy is talking to himself and struguling to call or fold over looking at the guy who is puting presure( btw it will be really cool in this kind of spots to split screen and to show both players, imo this is great for watching experience)

I just don't think every MTT should have the same starting stack. The PKO tournaments look so unattractive with this 100K starting and low structure( I think Patrick also tweeted once that PKO MTTs should be shallower) and just don't look good also that every tournament have 100K starting stack, imo big starting stacks are overrated a liitle bit, especially if everything have that, they lost their attraction...
Oh and if 20:00 CET on SUNDAY there are PKO MTTs(like the 500K) PLEASE change the 19:00 CET MTTs to non-PKOs.

Is every MTT in the KO series 50% bounty? I keep getting so far down the list until the lobby crashes so I've given up tbh!

Yeah, 50% bounties for all events and @ all buy-in levels throughout the entire week from what I can see...

1) Please make the KO series tournaments from 18:00 CET onwards 2-day events.
2) Please add more tournaments to the earlier schedule just like the addition that you made at 17:30 CET.
3) Please make 22$ buyins and lower 10 minute levels maximum or at least 8-10-12 or 10-12.
4) Please add some normal satellites to the 22/55$ MTT's or at least make the 22$ tickets generic use and add 2$ sat feeder to the 11$ satellite which pays 55$ MTT tickets.
5) Please fix the 1$ satellite's break to start at :55 hours (now it starts at :00 hours which is quite absurd).
6) Please add daily/weekly lowstakes heads up tornament.

exactly, no choice at all to balance a long one that you launch at 6pm, u normally reg faster ones at 7pm/8pm for instance, so your session has a chance to finish with one or two FT at same time (well when you have skills huhu).
This will be fixed with some :30 turbos as they said, even like that one tourney/hr/buyin is soooo poor and repetitive.

I already saw few times people so bored at 18 left that they literrally suicide their 60bb with K9o on a board AA8, all in called by AK....
where is the fun playing 8 hours for 10 dols when u can play nl10/25 (avoiding the russian bots siiting all day) meanwhile and make 4buyin profit in 2hrs....
I m clueless..... spewwww

If someone had to read one post in this topic, THIS ONE...
ALL IS THERE ! thx

Why not? I never saw the reason for differences in starting stacks, it only makes things more confusing. Of course taking a zero off of every number would be better, but we're probably going to 10M starting stacks before a decrease ever happens.

why for christ sake there are only KOs from 5 till 9 ??? One tourney is logically called bounty hunter but why have you made those warmup knockouts as well? There is no regular freezout except slow one at 4 and then contender at 9.. thats really great modern schedule.. without any FO, rebuy , nothing.. only KO KO KO KOs everywhere

Maybe you should consider rebranding to party KOker so people would know what to expect...

Pokerstars.ES main event on a Sunday is now a PKO - wouldn't bet against the sunday million being turned into one.... just seems to be an increasingly popular format.

I think the rake at least for turbo PKO's should be lower. Especially when it's 6max.

PS.es does same thing as it was on ps.fr they rotate formats every week in sunday major... once its KO, then 6max, FR etc. As you can see in lobby this sunday its not KO.
But thats not the point, i dont mind playing KOs.. i just dont understand why there are only KOs in peak hours.

Sigh, a bit of variety never killed anyone. The Odd 75%/25% wouldn't have gone a miss!

+1 regarding the fact that every MTT is now a marathon.

The new schedule is generally very good, multiple re entries have been reduced, fields are larger and prize pools are bigger.

But the structures are too much. Every single $10 mtt takes forever, need to shave ~1hr run time off everything that starts later than 6pm UK. Other than that, nice job so far.

Yeah, totally agree. Would've been great if they had mixed up the bounty percentages and offered something a little different for a few events across the week.

Perhaps something they could look at doing for future KO series that are upcoming throughout the year...

Hi guys,

Its 1:30 am atm, the 5pm, 6pm and 7pm majors are all in the last 6 players, all tournaments looking to be finished by 2am, our tournaments don't go on forever Our 8pm daily major is last 25 players which is very reasonable.

We added daily 6max turbo today at $55/$11 and once it starts hitting the guarantee we will add more around the same times.

Our numbers tonight for a Monday are pretty great.

5pmm $22 750 runners
6pm $55 650 runners
7pm $55 460 runners/ $215 270 runners
8pm $109 420 runners

Mondays used to be a dead day, but no longer.

On March 5th, all these guarantees will be increased further.