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09-28-2018 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by party_Rep

Our schedule changes are made to deal with an ever-changing and evolving poker market, we do value our player feedback and as stated multiple times it's always reviewed and considered
Many of our ongoing changes are made based on this player feedback - multiple players ask for change, we try to implement said changes
Absolute BS of an argument. There is no poker site on the market that is making any significant changes to their offerings as frequently as Party does. Therefore saying that you adjust based on changes in the market is complete nonsense.

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Originally Posted by party_Rep

Regarding buy-in levels, this is a specific area under constant review
Following player requests recently, we changed the $22 buy into a $33 buy-in hence the increased gap from the smaller buy-in games
Some, however, may not appreciate the change it's near impossible to please everyone
Should we add buy-ins for each and every level - we simply dilute the fields and have fewer runners at each level resulting in multiple games underperforming
Our schedule - as a whole - currently offers multiple buy-in levels
Yes, we may have removed some games and increased guarantees on others, however, we don't want too many games in the lobby with lower guarantees and feel the prior option is a better solution for our players overall and the room ecology
I refuse to believe that majority of people asked to remove $22 games just replace them with $33. Even to ask for something like that makes no sense.

If tournaments are underperforming then it means IT IS TIME TO LOWER THE GTDs! I would rather have 10 tournaments with small GTDs than 2 with massive. You only shoot yourself in the foot by reducing game availability to accommodate "boosted" GTDs. The poker ecology can only suffer if there is a lack of choice when it comes to game availability. When you had a great schedule 2 years ago, I don't remember ever seeing tournaments underperform, in fact, they would overperform.

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Originally Posted by party_Rep

I do feel the mix max games were a positive addition to our offering, the numbers have shown these games are very popular and continue to grow Yes it may feel it has been a little overdone however the games continue to show support from the players and growth - we will review other games some may feel are now missing from the schedule
FO offering and the sats are currently areas under review
The only reason I play these mix-max games isn't that I like them, but because I need to have volume in order to pay my bills. Since I am so loyal to PartyPoker, I am still keeping high hopes that you guys finally start making changes that are good and not bad, but my play rate has already dropped significantly on PartyPoker over the last 2 years.

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Originally Posted by party_Rep

With regards to the blind levels - we decreased these across our games to improve the player experience
Multiple players complained regularly our games were taking too long and finished too late - so we added the smooth structure as outlined and discussed in detail with Patrick a few months ago (scroll back a few pages) - this change means the games are all slightly improved and quicker to complete - this is unlikely to change
Player feedback overall was massively positive regarding these changes
Despite the fact that I do like the way current blind levels work, you can't claim that the games run faster, not until you reduce the GTDs. With the old blind structure you had before the changes Pads introduced I remember games running on average 6-7 hours depending on the size of the field (not counting Sundays). With the current changes the tournaments run on average 8-10 hours... And the blame isn't for the blind structure, in fact the GTDs. The GTDs force the tournaments to have more entries (re-entries) which increases the overall field size, thus making the games way longer.

I wish you guys can make a schedule where I can play only PartyPoker like I did 2 years ago.
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09-28-2018 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Rihard4a

If tournaments are underperforming then it means IT IS TIME TO LOWER THE GTDs! I would rather have 10 tournaments with small GTDs than 2 with massive. You only shoot yourself in the foot by reducing game availability to accommodate "boosted" GTDs. The poker ecology can only suffer if there is a lack of choice when it comes to game availability.
This is a huge point, i truly believe they do not understand this. They seem to focus more on big individual tournaments and promote them such as millions etc, then the daily schedule suffers. The current offering is very concerning, it's a shame because it could be so much better.

Colette, are you looking for us to give suggestions? Are the changes you make mostly ideas from people within the team or from other sources? Clearly this is by far the largest poker forum, but you seem to suggest you get more feedback from other sources than here? I would say the people on here have more knowledge of poker than say a group on facebook, or anywhere else for that matter, but many suggestions from this forum have not been implemented? Can you honestly say the people in the team will have more poker knowledge and what works when it comes to online tournaments than the people on here?

If the person making the decisions will not converse with us, maybe you can explain to us the reasons behind any changes?
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09-28-2018 , 05:52 PM
Mentioned this in the other thread. When im watching random stuff on TV in the UK im always seeing pokerstars adverts don't recall ever seeing a party advert. Surely thats a better use of funds than giving regs who are going to play anyway free equity (leaderboards).

After i watched Rob Yongs podcast recently it gave me hope for the future that party will get to where they want to be when i was very sceptical beforehand. Just hope the finished article is this decade.
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09-28-2018 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays

I've said it a lot of times, but I've helped build a schedule and it will run from March 5th and be with solid foundations that dont need a lot of big changes. Of course you're welcome to play on whatever other sites you want, we will do our best from this side to try and win customers with improved software/schedule/guarantees/rakeback and promotion, we understand there is loyal players to every site for lots of different reasons, hopefully our new schedule makes people loyal to ours.
So much for a schedule with "solid foundations that doesn't need a lot of changes"...I personally find it difficult to remain loyal to a schedule that's literally and constantly changing every 1-2 weeks, month after month, for the bast part of a year.

What makes the situation worse is the fact that, I don't see an end to it in sight and am guessing these constant changes will continue for sometime yet, with PP going round and round in circles like a dog chasing its own tail, especially if the following post is anything to go by.

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Originally Posted by party_Rep

Our schedule changes are made to deal with an ever-changing and evolving poker market. We are happy with how the system has worked previously and will continue to use this method going forward.
I've been contributing to this thread since it's inception so, i'm well aware of everything that's been discussed in it throughout the last year and there's a lot i've thought about saying in response to some of the most recent posts. However, i've decided not to bother with most of it.

After reading through Colette's last post on behalf of PP (part of which is highlighted above), it's become clear to me that this thread is now redundant in terms of what it was originally set-up for and continuing to contribute to it with any great significance is a waste of my time so, I'm moving on (in more ways than one).

I say that because the actions i've taken speak louder than any words I could write in this thread.

I'm referring to the fact that, the other online poker accounts I have that sat doormant whilst my focus had been on playing at PP, have now been reloaded with funds and it's my PP account that now currently sits as the doormant one.

GL PP in regards to getting the loyalty from customers you we're looking for. If you keep going the way you are - I think your going to need it...
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09-29-2018 , 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by deucesofclub
Unable to login to Party.. blank screen for login



reboot, no go

suggestions ?

Can you confirm which operating system you are using ie: Windows or MAC?
A full clean reinstallation will resolve
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09-29-2018 , 04:57 AM
Guys it just does not worth to waste your energy and time ITT.
PP is promises and promises and this is how the situation is after 1 year of the big try to become the best site began.

-worst blind levels/starting stacks of the industry ever
-countless changes at EVERYTHING it could be changed at MTTs.
-amateurism in planning,scheduling and dealing with problems in events(powerfest,online millions)
-software.i play at bwin and i am not sure but my feeling is that the results are very poor after 1 year of updating.

So i got really bored to open the client and getting pissed.
And i really bored to write my opinion and not been heard so this is my last post.From now on i am just going to open the client,play whatever i like.i suggest you guys do the same without bothering.Enough with the support to the biggest disappointment of industry.

mement you are a beast man
only i there were not these stupid French politicians....
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09-29-2018 , 08:12 AM
hi,

glad i watched the schedule today,
thank you for the fast few changes! top! i'm in, again! i was so disappointed that all games i Played are gone- so ty again!

today i have randomly read the "promo" ~one gtd boosted tournament every month.....this is a great idea! i have seen the next 3 of this tournamnets and- wow!!!grandios! if i correct remember the idea is not really new if i'm correct you did that a few years in the past too- but then it was gone....or did i dream that? however- n1 !
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09-29-2018 , 01:32 PM
...and if i see the sunday schedule...haha...super!congrats, and bit apologies! + i (still dont like) but understand and respect earlier tournaments-200k stack later ones-100k

i know what i do this sunday

but now im out-my english is not good enough!

gl gl
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09-29-2018 , 04:58 PM
I think the 200k starting stacks are fine for the smaller fields. Played one the other day only lasted 5 hr 40 or so, and it was nice to have the stacks a bit deeper. But for 1000 + fields it will not work.

Stack sizes don't worry me tho I hate 3000 starting chips I feel its not enough, you lose one pot and half ur stack is gone.
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09-29-2018 , 08:26 PM
Could you reduce clock to 5 minutes to $2r at 21:30 CET? It take 2,5 hours to get to add-on break and 7 minute lvl is too deep for such a late MTT.
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09-30-2018 , 10:27 AM
All - some updates regarding planned changes live from tomorrow, Monday 1st

We will remove the 200K Bs start stack following feedback - these will run with 100K start stacks and a new structure across our core hourly games

Our Main events will move to an earlier slot of 5 pm BST rather than 7 pm

We will introduce a new naming convention for our tourneys - removing the H, M and L prefix

Fast clocks are capped at 5mins, Turbos 3 mins

The clock on our $215 events has been increased slightly


We will continue to review the rest of the schedule and work on other improvements including a revamped Omaha schedule

Thanks

Colette
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09-30-2018 , 02:04 PM
Can you add some more games across all buy-in levels so that there is more to play? I am literally playing like 7 MTTs per session on Party nowadays just because of the lack of variety. I used to play 20+ MTTs before. Most people don't need hyper big GTDs.
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09-30-2018 , 08:20 PM
Wanted to grind satellite tree today. However, decided against it because $22 to $109 sats offered only 5 $109 tickets at 4 pm cet. You must be a bit more ambitious if you want to run $109 100k on regular basis.
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09-30-2018 , 08:27 PM
If you win 2 or more seats in the live sattys at DTD for the million and only use one of them what happens to the other seat/seats.

Thank you.
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09-30-2018 , 09:06 PM
Anyone tried out this "new" structure? Is it any good?
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09-30-2018 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Colin_Piddle
Anyone tried out this "new" structure? Is it any good?
back to the pre powerfest tourneys..... nothing wow but better than 200k....
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10-01-2018 , 01:42 AM
everyday i dont play at least 2 tourneys cause its mix-max, i'd allways play 8handed and probably allways play if turns 6max way later
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10-01-2018 , 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by U shove i call
If you win 2 or more seats in the live sattys at DTD for the million and only use one of them what happens to the other seat/seats.

Thank you.
Multiple seats are converted to club credits and kept at DTD for future/regular events
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10-01-2018 , 03:15 AM
action stack bounty builders 20k starting chips 1k 500 blinds 30min levels interesting concept as it goes up in levels after 1 hour of these 2 500/1k levels

seems pretty crapshooty from first look.
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10-01-2018 , 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Colin_Piddle
Anyone tried out this "new" structure? Is it any good?
Opened the client to check out the new improved structure.

Found out that in Main Event it takes 17 levels (*5 min = 85 min) for blinds to increase from 500/1000 up to 1000/2000.

Closed the client.
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10-01-2018 , 09:13 AM
lol
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10-01-2018 , 10:22 AM
started playing on party in 2016 once it became clear stars was **** over players .

honestly party has done far too little to compete with stars

only things i can think of are 5% rake on turbos/kos and adding some unraked rebuys

sadly party keeps on removing/changing tourneys day in day out , anyone with a brain would add tons of $11-$33s and try to grow them , rather than have 1-2 with big guarantees and reduce guarantees the day after when nobody plays them .

a big problem on party IMO is the fact there's no big lowstakes tourneys at peak hours :
look at the 8pm CEST timeslot for example

winamax : fievre 10 25k
stars.es : bigger 10 25k
888 : big fish 16.5 15k
stars.eu : big 11 30k

party ? $5 3k gtd mix max turbo
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10-01-2018 , 11:06 AM
PartyPoker quite literally are wasting their opportunity to catch/surpass PokerStars.
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10-01-2018 , 11:43 AM
Why is so hard to have a std structure for tornaments?
Why you changed the main event buyin? It was doing ok at 33$

Will play only 2 mtts in party today, and only because i really want to support the site.
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10-01-2018 , 12:33 PM
Thank You for bringing back 100k start stacks!
And adding a small Turbo at Peak Time

The Bounty Hunter 6max12,5k gtd $109 is reentry
The Bounty Hunter 6max 7,5k gtd $33 is NOT reentry - both start at 15:00


that is confusing…
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