Ex-Official partypoker/bwin MTT Thread (No party poker support)
Colette you keep saying management team, do the management have the knowledge on how to create tournament schedules and structures? Why are managers doing this? Shouldn't there be just 1 dedicated person with experience working on online tournaments?
On other threads it seems to be the site rep is the one asking for suggestions and making the changes themselves, here you are giving feedback to what seems like a group of people? Not bashing you at all i just think it would be better if there was 1 person working on the schedule.
On other threads it seems to be the site rep is the one asking for suggestions and making the changes themselves, here you are giving feedback to what seems like a group of people? Not bashing you at all i just think it would be better if there was 1 person working on the schedule.
I want to say more, i think the whole tiered system party currently have with tournaments/times etc is poor and does not work very well imo. First of all, it looks completely unattractive to have a tournament at xx time then have this copied for all the other buy in's, it just lacks so much creativity. I just feel as though you need to mix up the tournament starting times and have more variety overall. I certainly do not want all these tournaments starting at the same time then have no other options.
The 200k starting stacks are just totally over the top, what is the reason for this? Can you not just have normal structures like all other sites?
Regarding tournament series, it is crazy to me you have all these series but yet they lack so much creatvity in them, most of them have the exact same tournaments repeated daily for the entire series? What is the reason for this? We have been complaining about the same things forever but still here we are. It is utterly frustrating for so many people here saying the same things over and over, yet nothing is done about it?
So, PP have "supersized the schedule", "boosting GTD'S" and are "offering even more action"'...
I say that from where i'm sitting, that simply isn't a fair representation of what PP has actually done.
What I see that PP has actually done is remove a number of games, along with various buy-in levels from the schedule and added the money from those to the games that now remain.
Take the bounty builders for example: Instead of offering 'x' amount of games at various buy-in levels and with reasonable GTD'S for each, PP have simply reduced 'x' and condensed all the games/GTD's on offer, resulting in giving the false impression that the games we now see are massive, when in fact they are just a combination of games reduced to make a few big ones.
If PP are offering even more action now as stated, then why is it that I have even less to play now than I did before these changes?!
Once again we are back to having big jumps between buy-in levels and if PP's idea of offering more action is by way of removing various buy-in levels and therefore reducing the options available for players at various bankroll levels...then all I can do is shake my head and laugh.
You maybe happy to confirm the above announcement as stated Colette (I know your just doing your job and aren't actually the person behind making these decisions) but, for the record, i'm not happy with it and i'm the one who actually plays on the site or should I say 'played' on the site. I say that because there's so little for me to play now or that I wan't to play now (PP have now removed my main buy-in level and i'm not a fan of 200k starting stacks or having to play for multiple hours just to make a couple of $) that, PP will now be seeing less of my money/rake and other poker sites will be seeing more of it.
Sad, considering I moved to PP at the end of last year with the intention of PP becoming my main poker site of choice. I saw positive changes being made and the site heading in the right direction. Now I see a lot of that early good work being undone and view PP as having lost it's way when it comes to the MTT side of things (which is the main reason for my being on the site). Speaking with a number of other players, i'm not the only one who feels this way...
I say that from where i'm sitting, that simply isn't a fair representation of what PP has actually done.
What I see that PP has actually done is remove a number of games, along with various buy-in levels from the schedule and added the money from those to the games that now remain.
Take the bounty builders for example: Instead of offering 'x' amount of games at various buy-in levels and with reasonable GTD'S for each, PP have simply reduced 'x' and condensed all the games/GTD's on offer, resulting in giving the false impression that the games we now see are massive, when in fact they are just a combination of games reduced to make a few big ones.
If PP are offering even more action now as stated, then why is it that I have even less to play now than I did before these changes?!
Once again we are back to having big jumps between buy-in levels and if PP's idea of offering more action is by way of removing various buy-in levels and therefore reducing the options available for players at various bankroll levels...then all I can do is shake my head and laugh.
You maybe happy to confirm the above announcement as stated Colette (I know your just doing your job and aren't actually the person behind making these decisions) but, for the record, i'm not happy with it and i'm the one who actually plays on the site or should I say 'played' on the site. I say that because there's so little for me to play now or that I wan't to play now (PP have now removed my main buy-in level and i'm not a fan of 200k starting stacks or having to play for multiple hours just to make a couple of $) that, PP will now be seeing less of my money/rake and other poker sites will be seeing more of it.
Sad, considering I moved to PP at the end of last year with the intention of PP becoming my main poker site of choice. I saw positive changes being made and the site heading in the right direction. Now I see a lot of that early good work being undone and view PP as having lost it's way when it comes to the MTT side of things (which is the main reason for my being on the site). Speaking with a number of other players, i'm not the only one who feels this way...
Been on holiday for a week and come back to find the schedule completely changed again, amazing how often this seems to happen.
I agree with the whole post and I think the bolded part sums up Party's entire attitude. I have said it before but Party are so lucky that Stars made so many unpopular moves that people desperately wants to stay loyal to them. There is a time where people would not have stood up for all the botting/leaderboard collusion/association with staking groups but because of the climate most people (including myself) are much more willing to overlook it. The schedule flips every two weeks and every time it's claimed that it's based on player feedback which for obvious reason is disingenuous unless majority feedback magically changes at all times. I wish Party did what MPN is doing in their thread and posted a list of updates to the schedule every time they occur, would be amazing to see how many things have been changed around (with little to no success) since this threads inception.
Also I didn't play in it but absolutely disgusting how the guarantee was reduced for the series event, especially the nonchalant attitude that the alternative would have been to cancel it. Reminds me of when re-entry was added to the 5k main AFTER people have already satellited in to avoid overlay. How about doing the right thing and honor the guarantee, why was that not an option? I don't usually really want to point to specific ambassadors because it's mostly not productive but this seems to sum up Party's attitude perfectly. Misdirection and flawed logic, a world where reducing the guarantee of a series tournament is the same as reducing the guarantee of a daily that hasn't been announced. Or where raising the guarantees on tournaments you know will over perform somehow justifies
I know it fall on deaf ears at this point but just so disappointed with the site after it had so much promise. I don't think you will ever learn that people would rather have a trustworthy site with smaller prize pools than one with a completely unsustainable schedule and guarantees that either rely on affiliations with stables, outright welching on your promises and slipping in extra re-entries every time you want to make sure you hit a guarantee.
I agree with the whole post and I think the bolded part sums up Party's entire attitude. I have said it before but Party are so lucky that Stars made so many unpopular moves that people desperately wants to stay loyal to them. There is a time where people would not have stood up for all the botting/leaderboard collusion/association with staking groups but because of the climate most people (including myself) are much more willing to overlook it. The schedule flips every two weeks and every time it's claimed that it's based on player feedback which for obvious reason is disingenuous unless majority feedback magically changes at all times. I wish Party did what MPN is doing in their thread and posted a list of updates to the schedule every time they occur, would be amazing to see how many things have been changed around (with little to no success) since this threads inception.
Also I didn't play in it but absolutely disgusting how the guarantee was reduced for the series event, especially the nonchalant attitude that the alternative would have been to cancel it. Reminds me of when re-entry was added to the 5k main AFTER people have already satellited in to avoid overlay. How about doing the right thing and honor the guarantee, why was that not an option? I don't usually really want to point to specific ambassadors because it's mostly not productive but this seems to sum up Party's attitude perfectly. Misdirection and flawed logic, a world where reducing the guarantee of a series tournament is the same as reducing the guarantee of a daily that hasn't been announced. Or where raising the guarantees on tournaments you know will over perform somehow justifies
I know it fall on deaf ears at this point but just so disappointed with the site after it had so much promise. I don't think you will ever learn that people would rather have a trustworthy site with smaller prize pools than one with a completely unsustainable schedule and guarantees that either rely on affiliations with stables, outright welching on your promises and slipping in extra re-entries every time you want to make sure you hit a guarantee.
new sch. really bad. these 11$ low GTDs whole day running just not worth to lower stars volume and play here. why you have to change buyin levels, formats and starting time every month. dont get it.
now i play like 3mtts a day with this new sch. and i used a lot more as i wanted to lower stars and party offered some good mtts for this. for example 22 deepstacks,33-11 main, 11-22-16.50-33 bountys w great gtds. now all is gone. makes no sense.
these new rebuys replaced most of them, total pointless with these GTDs, pls just delete them, it s a joke to run a rebuy tourneys peak time with these GTDs. at least for low.
these turbos,hypers also took some regular mtt buyin and format away. who want to play that many turbos peak time? just delete turbos and make a decent sch. and maybe add turbos from 20:00cet but not before, at least not that many. focus on the regular speed mtts peak time pls. you did a great job with it when u didnt had that many pointless low gtd turbo hyper and rebuy mtt runing at :30 every hour
power turbo $27 at 18:30CET had 87 runners yesterday. think is shows what im talking about. 87 runners at 18:30CET. LOL.
a $16.50 bounty builder turbo at 19:30CET peak time, only had 197 runners?
these glitch at :30 every hour just unnecessary to run. bring back these mtts with non turbo structure and 197runners will become 1097runners
just bring back the old sch. you had running before powerfest. it was pretty cool i think.
now i play like 3mtts a day with this new sch. and i used a lot more as i wanted to lower stars and party offered some good mtts for this. for example 22 deepstacks,33-11 main, 11-22-16.50-33 bountys w great gtds. now all is gone. makes no sense.
these new rebuys replaced most of them, total pointless with these GTDs, pls just delete them, it s a joke to run a rebuy tourneys peak time with these GTDs. at least for low.
these turbos,hypers also took some regular mtt buyin and format away. who want to play that many turbos peak time? just delete turbos and make a decent sch. and maybe add turbos from 20:00cet but not before, at least not that many. focus on the regular speed mtts peak time pls. you did a great job with it when u didnt had that many pointless low gtd turbo hyper and rebuy mtt runing at :30 every hour
power turbo $27 at 18:30CET had 87 runners yesterday. think is shows what im talking about. 87 runners at 18:30CET. LOL.
a $16.50 bounty builder turbo at 19:30CET peak time, only had 197 runners?
these glitch at :30 every hour just unnecessary to run. bring back these mtts with non turbo structure and 197runners will become 1097runners
just bring back the old sch. you had running before powerfest. it was pretty cool i think.
Collette, do you plan to run any satellites to this Sunday's $33 200k event?
Feedback without explanations in return has really run its course. Patrick to some degree came on here and did that for a while... some cherry picking on his part, but Party would be better served with some degree of give and take.
Are they on holiday since 2016 ???
So there isn't 1 person that manages/creates the tournaments/structures etc? Maybe this is not the correct approach?
I want to say more, i think the whole tiered system party currently have with tournaments/times etc is poor and does not work very well imo. First of all, it looks completely unattractive to have a tournament at xx time then have this copied for all the other buy in's, it just lacks so much creativity. I just feel as though you need to mix up the tournament starting times and have more variety overall. I certainly do not want all these tournaments starting at the same time then have no other options.
The 200k starting stacks are just totally over the top, what is the reason for this? Can you not just have normal structures like all other sites?
Regarding tournament series, it is crazy to me you have all these series but yet they lack so much creatvity in them, most of them have the exact same tournaments repeated daily for the entire series? What is the reason for this? We have been complaining about the same things forever but still here we are. It is utterly frustrating for so many people here saying the same things over and over, yet nothing is done about it?
I want to say more, i think the whole tiered system party currently have with tournaments/times etc is poor and does not work very well imo. First of all, it looks completely unattractive to have a tournament at xx time then have this copied for all the other buy in's, it just lacks so much creativity. I just feel as though you need to mix up the tournament starting times and have more variety overall. I certainly do not want all these tournaments starting at the same time then have no other options.
The 200k starting stacks are just totally over the top, what is the reason for this? Can you not just have normal structures like all other sites?
Regarding tournament series, it is crazy to me you have all these series but yet they lack so much creatvity in them, most of them have the exact same tournaments repeated daily for the entire series? What is the reason for this? We have been complaining about the same things forever but still here we are. It is utterly frustrating for so many people here saying the same things over and over, yet nothing is done about it?
But they are not here to listen, it s quite obvious after more than a year of dumb decisions...
the copy paste is the main mark of laziness fron their side...
their is no flavor - 1.1/5.5/22/etc.... same starting stack n smilar boring structure...
Then 2hour later.... REPEAT !
that s why nobody can relate or stick to it
Anyway...what s the point of making feedbacks, they do the opposite....
PP: We're increasing the 30K starting stacks to 100K...
Players: We don't like 100K starting stacks, there too big...
PP: Ok, we're now increasing them to 200K...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
Players: We need more buy-in levels and less of a jump between buy-ins...
PP: Ok, we've added more buy-in levels...
Players: Great, a lot more people are playing on PP now...
PP: We're removing previously added buy-in levels...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
PP: We're adding mix/max/deep games to the schedule...
Players: Cool, a bit more variety to choose from...
PP: When we say 'adding', what we actually mean is 'replacing' pretty much everything with these games and offering very little of anything else.
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
PP: We're removing most of the re-entries and reducing late reg times...
Players: Great, this will result in a much improved overall MTT experience
PP: We're re-introducing the previously removed re-entries and extending late reg times...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP
__________
PP Rep: All feedback noted and passed on to management...
PP Management: All feedback ignored...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
Players: We don't like 100K starting stacks, there too big...
PP: Ok, we're now increasing them to 200K...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
Players: We need more buy-in levels and less of a jump between buy-ins...
PP: Ok, we've added more buy-in levels...
Players: Great, a lot more people are playing on PP now...
PP: We're removing previously added buy-in levels...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
PP: We're adding mix/max/deep games to the schedule...
Players: Cool, a bit more variety to choose from...
PP: When we say 'adding', what we actually mean is 'replacing' pretty much everything with these games and offering very little of anything else.
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
PP: We're removing most of the re-entries and reducing late reg times...
Players: Great, this will result in a much improved overall MTT experience
PP: We're re-introducing the previously removed re-entries and extending late reg times...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP
__________
PP Rep: All feedback noted and passed on to management...
PP Management: All feedback ignored...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
PP: We're increasing the 30K starting stacks to 100K...
Players: We don't like 100K starting stacks, there too big...
PP: Ok, we're now increasing them to 200K...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
Players: We need more buy-in levels and less of a jump between buy-ins...
PP: Ok, we've added more buy-in levels...
Players: Great, a lot more people are playing on PP now...
PP: We're removing previously added buy-in levels...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
PP: We're adding mix/max/deep games to the schedule...
Players: Cool, a bit more variety to choose from...
PP: When we say 'adding', what we actually mean is 'replacing' pretty much everything with these games and offering very little of anything else.
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
PP: We're removing most of the re-entries and reducing late reg times...
Players: Great, this will result in a much improved overall MTT experience
PP: We're re-introducing the previously removed re-entries and extending late reg times...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP
__________
PP Rep: All feedback noted and passed on to management...
PP Management: All feedback ignored...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
Players: We don't like 100K starting stacks, there too big...
PP: Ok, we're now increasing them to 200K...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
Players: We need more buy-in levels and less of a jump between buy-ins...
PP: Ok, we've added more buy-in levels...
Players: Great, a lot more people are playing on PP now...
PP: We're removing previously added buy-in levels...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
PP: We're adding mix/max/deep games to the schedule...
Players: Cool, a bit more variety to choose from...
PP: When we say 'adding', what we actually mean is 'replacing' pretty much everything with these games and offering very little of anything else.
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
PP: We're removing most of the re-entries and reducing late reg times...
Players: Great, this will result in a much improved overall MTT experience
PP: We're re-introducing the previously removed re-entries and extending late reg times...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP
__________
PP Rep: All feedback noted and passed on to management...
PP Management: All feedback ignored...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
Please everyone that agrees with this to quote it, maybe then someone will eventually not just read it but reply
PP: We're increasing the 30K starting stacks to 100K...
Players: We don't like 100K starting stacks, there too big...
PP: Ok, we're now increasing them to 200K...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
Players: We need more buy-in levels and less of a jump between buy-ins...
PP: Ok, we've added more buy-in levels...
Players: Great, a lot more people are playing on PP now...
PP: We're removing previously added buy-in levels...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
PP: We're adding mix/max/deep games to the schedule...
Players: Cool, a bit more variety to choose from...
PP: When we say 'adding', what we actually mean is 'replacing' pretty much everything with these games and offering very little of anything else.
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
PP: We're removing most of the re-entries and reducing late reg times...
Players: Great, this will result in a much improved overall MTT experience
PP: We're re-introducing the previously removed re-entries and extending late reg times...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP
__________
PP Rep: All feedback noted and passed on to management...
PP Management: All feedback ignored...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
Players: We don't like 100K starting stacks, there too big...
PP: Ok, we're now increasing them to 200K...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
Players: We need more buy-in levels and less of a jump between buy-ins...
PP: Ok, we've added more buy-in levels...
Players: Great, a lot more people are playing on PP now...
PP: We're removing previously added buy-in levels...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
PP: We're adding mix/max/deep games to the schedule...
Players: Cool, a bit more variety to choose from...
PP: When we say 'adding', what we actually mean is 'replacing' pretty much everything with these games and offering very little of anything else.
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
PP: We're removing most of the re-entries and reducing late reg times...
Players: Great, this will result in a much improved overall MTT experience
PP: We're re-introducing the previously removed re-entries and extending late reg times...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP
__________
PP Rep: All feedback noted and passed on to management...
PP Management: All feedback ignored...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
Well, at least they prob made BitbStaking #1 staking company
PP: We're increasing the 30K starting stacks to 100K...
Players: We don't like 100K starting stacks, there too big...
PP: Ok, we're now increasing them to 200K...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
Players: We need more buy-in levels and less of a jump between buy-ins...
PP: Ok, we've added more buy-in levels...
Players: Great, a lot more people are playing on PP now...
PP: We're removing previously added buy-in levels...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
PP: We're adding mix/max/deep games to the schedule...
Players: Cool, a bit more variety to choose from...
PP: When we say 'adding', what we actually mean is 'replacing' pretty much everything with these games and offering very little of anything else.
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
PP: We're removing most of the re-entries and reducing late reg times...
Players: Great, this will result in a much improved overall MTT experience
PP: We're re-introducing the previously removed re-entries and extending late reg times...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP
__________
PP Rep: All feedback noted and passed on to management...
PP Management: All feedback ignored...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
Players: We don't like 100K starting stacks, there too big...
PP: Ok, we're now increasing them to 200K...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
Players: We need more buy-in levels and less of a jump between buy-ins...
PP: Ok, we've added more buy-in levels...
Players: Great, a lot more people are playing on PP now...
PP: We're removing previously added buy-in levels...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
PP: We're adding mix/max/deep games to the schedule...
Players: Cool, a bit more variety to choose from...
PP: When we say 'adding', what we actually mean is 'replacing' pretty much everything with these games and offering very little of anything else.
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
PP: We're removing most of the re-entries and reducing late reg times...
Players: Great, this will result in a much improved overall MTT experience
PP: We're re-introducing the previously removed re-entries and extending late reg times...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP
__________
PP Rep: All feedback noted and passed on to management...
PP Management: All feedback ignored...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
I don't understand why do you complain about turbos with 5% rake. They are of much better value than any of 180s of Stars. Small field tournaments provide more FT experience which recs will enjoy.
Collette, do you plan to run any satellites to this Sunday's $33 200k event?
Collette, do you plan to run any satellites to this Sunday's $33 200k event?
All the info for the Special edition event is here >
https://www.partypoker.com/whats-goi...l-edition.html
Is there any chance that one or more of these members could actively post in this thread. As an example they could state that 200k chips is really well received by this player segment etc... so therefore people on this forum won't keep mentioning their disapproval.
Feedback without explanations in return has really run its course. Patrick to some degree came on here and did that for a while... some cherry picking on his part, but Party would be better served with some degree of give and take.
Feedback without explanations in return has really run its course. Patrick to some degree came on here and did that for a while... some cherry picking on his part, but Party would be better served with some degree of give and take.
We also review feedback from multiple forum groups, our live events and our player panel who collate feedback from the community
If/when feedback is offered it is shared on the thread
Multiple members of the team also actively read the forums regularly and are aware of recent feedback regarding schedule changes
Thanks
Colette
PP: We're increasing the 30K starting stacks to 100K...
Players: We don't like 100K starting stacks, there too big...
PP: Ok, we're now increasing them to 200K...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
Players: We need more buy-in levels and less of a jump between buy-ins...
PP: Ok, we've added more buy-in levels...
Players: Great, a lot more people are playing on PP now...
PP: We're removing previously added buy-in levels...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
PP: We're adding mix/max/deep games to the schedule...
Players: Cool, a bit more variety to choose from...
PP: When we say 'adding', what we actually mean is 'replacing' pretty much everything with these games and offering very little of anything else.
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
PP: We're removing most of the re-entries and reducing late reg times...
Players: Great, this will result in a much improved overall MTT experience
PP: We're re-introducing the previously removed re-entries and extending late reg times...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP
__________
PP Rep: All feedback noted and passed on to management...
PP Management: All feedback ignored...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
Players: We don't like 100K starting stacks, there too big...
PP: Ok, we're now increasing them to 200K...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
Players: We need more buy-in levels and less of a jump between buy-ins...
PP: Ok, we've added more buy-in levels...
Players: Great, a lot more people are playing on PP now...
PP: We're removing previously added buy-in levels...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
PP: We're adding mix/max/deep games to the schedule...
Players: Cool, a bit more variety to choose from...
PP: When we say 'adding', what we actually mean is 'replacing' pretty much everything with these games and offering very little of anything else.
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
PP: We're removing most of the re-entries and reducing late reg times...
Players: Great, this will result in a much improved overall MTT experience
PP: We're re-introducing the previously removed re-entries and extending late reg times...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP
__________
PP Rep: All feedback noted and passed on to management...
PP Management: All feedback ignored...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
No sats, buy in direct only
All the info for the Special edition event is here >
https://www.partypoker.com/whats-goi...l-edition.html
Thanks
Colette
All the info for the Special edition event is here >
https://www.partypoker.com/whats-goi...l-edition.html
Thanks
Colette
the no sat decisions is really killing your groth potential by half at least.... a god damn lobotomized monkey would agree
for once speak with your guts Colette, not just - i collect info here - I want to hear the human beeing inside you, not the compulsary and pretty fake rep who just ....do the job...
You are very diplomatic and nice person BUT pretty useless in your answers as well, sorry to say.....YES sorry i am after a year i result oriented..... i am customer (unfortunately too loyal and still trying to be)
No sats, buy in direct only
All the info for the Special edition event is here >
https://www.partypoker.com/whats-goi...l-edition.html
No, as stated previously I collate all the feedback and share with the relevant team for review
Multiple members of the team also actively read the forums regularly and are aware of recent feedback regarding schedule changes
Thanks
Colette
All the info for the Special edition event is here >
https://www.partypoker.com/whats-goi...l-edition.html
No, as stated previously I collate all the feedback and share with the relevant team for review
Multiple members of the team also actively read the forums regularly and are aware of recent feedback regarding schedule changes
Thanks
Colette
hello all,
we must be carefull that we don't come in a Situation where we have Party vs the/some Players situation. this is not good and obv not helpfull! but i understand everyone-in full! esp. the People like me which are in this mouse wheel over years,now. years.
what are the biggest Problems at the Moment? i didnt look at the schedule today so far-do we have changes? if not:
-if you ask me it's to much mixmax
-to much room between buy in level's- for example 2,20 buy in and the next step is 11,00. this is not good!
-i Need more 1-2 re entry or freezeout 8max or 9handed
-200k starting stack is to much- please please max. 100k. -i think this should have done/changed yesterday.
-1k gtd 2,2 buy in rebuy tournaments are not attractive to me (with/from 3,3 buy in and higher it would be unplayable to me-but with 1,1 buy in i would Play it sometimes- but not with big fun and NOT with 200k starting stack)!
i would remove some and make 2 nice ones per day with good gtd's....
- as a good will give us/me casual cash games for everyone back please! if you would try ONETIME fast five for everyone i would be thankfull too.
etc. -but so far enough for now
btw. please guys don't bash me for my english skills,ty
edit. sats area Need a good Change-Special mega sats etc...the full programm- this is so important!
we must be carefull that we don't come in a Situation where we have Party vs the/some Players situation. this is not good and obv not helpfull! but i understand everyone-in full! esp. the People like me which are in this mouse wheel over years,now. years.
what are the biggest Problems at the Moment? i didnt look at the schedule today so far-do we have changes? if not:
-if you ask me it's to much mixmax
-to much room between buy in level's- for example 2,20 buy in and the next step is 11,00. this is not good!
-i Need more 1-2 re entry or freezeout 8max or 9handed
-200k starting stack is to much- please please max. 100k. -i think this should have done/changed yesterday.
-1k gtd 2,2 buy in rebuy tournaments are not attractive to me (with/from 3,3 buy in and higher it would be unplayable to me-but with 1,1 buy in i would Play it sometimes- but not with big fun and NOT with 200k starting stack)!
i would remove some and make 2 nice ones per day with good gtd's....
- as a good will give us/me casual cash games for everyone back please! if you would try ONETIME fast five for everyone i would be thankfull too.
etc. -but so far enough for now
btw. please guys don't bash me for my english skills,ty
edit. sats area Need a good Change-Special mega sats etc...the full programm- this is so important!
If someone from the team is already actively reading the thread why can't they use a few minutes to come in here and try to explain some of their decisions? Every argument here is met with a vague answer that it's based on feedback collected from various places, which is extremely hard to believe when the feedback on the worlds biggest poker forum is unanimously that certain changes are poor. What we have now is a situation where you act as a middleman to the people making the schedule and players are not heard and also have no option to interact with the decision makers, and because you are not the one making the decision we have no chance to understand what their rationale is. A site like MPN that has less than a quarter of the players you do have multiple reps including a dedicated MTT rep who is actively explaining choices and listening to input. Why is it that we can expect so much less from Party?
Regarding comments from above posters, I have for many years manned the thread and shared feedback/worked closely with the poker room team
We are happy with how the system has worked previously and will continue to use this method going forward
Apologies if this disappoints
Our schedule changes are made to deal with an ever-changing and evolving poker market, we do value our player feedback and as stated multiple times it's always reviewed and considered
Many of our ongoing changes are made based on this player feedback - multiple players ask for change, we try to implement said changes
Regarding buy-in levels, this is a specific area under constant review
Following player requests recently, we changed the $22 buy into a $33 buy-in hence the increased gap from the smaller buy-in games
Some, however, may not appreciate the change it's near impossible to please everyone
Should we add buy-ins for each and every level - we simply dilute the fields and have fewer runners at each level resulting in multiple games underperforming
Our schedule - as a whole - currently offers multiple buy-in levels
Yes, we may have removed some games and increased guarantees on others, however, we don't want too many games in the lobby with lower guarantees and feel the prior option is a better solution for our players overall and the room ecology
I do feel the mix max games were a positive addition to our offering, the numbers have shown these games are very popular and continue to grow Yes it may feel it has been a little overdone however the games continue to show support from the players and growth - we will review other games some may feel are now missing from the schedule
FO offering and the sats are currently areas under review
With regards to the blind levels - we decreased these across our games to improve the player experience
Multiple players complained regularly our games were taking too long and finished too late - so we added the smooth structure as outlined and discussed in detail with Patrick a few months ago (scroll back a few pages) - this change means the games are all slightly improved and quicker to complete - this is unlikely to change
Player feedback overall was massively positive regarding these changes
We will continue to review our offerings and make changes when and where necessary
Thanks
Colette
We are happy with how the system has worked previously and will continue to use this method going forward
Apologies if this disappoints
Our schedule changes are made to deal with an ever-changing and evolving poker market, we do value our player feedback and as stated multiple times it's always reviewed and considered
Many of our ongoing changes are made based on this player feedback - multiple players ask for change, we try to implement said changes
Regarding buy-in levels, this is a specific area under constant review
Following player requests recently, we changed the $22 buy into a $33 buy-in hence the increased gap from the smaller buy-in games
Some, however, may not appreciate the change it's near impossible to please everyone
Should we add buy-ins for each and every level - we simply dilute the fields and have fewer runners at each level resulting in multiple games underperforming
Our schedule - as a whole - currently offers multiple buy-in levels
Yes, we may have removed some games and increased guarantees on others, however, we don't want too many games in the lobby with lower guarantees and feel the prior option is a better solution for our players overall and the room ecology
I do feel the mix max games were a positive addition to our offering, the numbers have shown these games are very popular and continue to grow Yes it may feel it has been a little overdone however the games continue to show support from the players and growth - we will review other games some may feel are now missing from the schedule
FO offering and the sats are currently areas under review
With regards to the blind levels - we decreased these across our games to improve the player experience
Multiple players complained regularly our games were taking too long and finished too late - so we added the smooth structure as outlined and discussed in detail with Patrick a few months ago (scroll back a few pages) - this change means the games are all slightly improved and quicker to complete - this is unlikely to change
Player feedback overall was massively positive regarding these changes
We will continue to review our offerings and make changes when and where necessary
Thanks
Colette
Our schedule changes are made to deal with an ever-changing and evolving poker market, we do value our player feedback and as stated multiple times it's always reviewed and considered
Many of our ongoing changes are made based on this player feedback - multiple players ask for change, we try to implement said changes
Thanks
Colette
get yourself an accelerate MBA paid by the company then and also for the decision makers....
The poker market evolving every week/month..... please please please ..... u lost even more credibility....
this is just or completely hypocrite or completely stupid..... (must be a mix of both in your team).
I prefer the persons at AMAYA holding for sure an MBA saying for few years **** the players....at least they honest with their money making strategy.....and anyway even being *******s they still manage to cater a better product....
@florianger : english is pretty bad, but you try your best haha
disagree with you..... the clash time has come.... let s see if they bring a top brain here (yes on the reference forum) to justify their piss poor decisions
Really guys....if u hate PS or don t wan t copy them.... copy paste WINAMAX and you will triple your traffic in 6 months....
Prooven track records for 10 years... (you only compete with them in LIVE events)
Regarding comments from above posters, I have for many years manned the thread and shared feedback/worked closely with the poker room team
We are happy with how the system has worked previously and will continue to use this method going forward
Apologies if this disappoints
We are happy with how the system has worked previously and will continue to use this method going forward
Apologies if this disappoints
I play on eight other sites and I can honestly say that this year Party has had more changes to their schedule than all the rest of them combined.
New tournaments / Prizepool changes
28th September 2018
Changed:
€1,000 Nightly Turbo Rebuy Super Bounty -> €1,250 Nightly Turbo Rebuy Super Bounty
€1,000 Turbo Early Bird 1R1A -> €1,250 Turbo Early Bird 1R1A
€500 Crazy Booster - now a €500 2R1A €11/€5.50/€5.50
27th September 2018
Added:
€200 Cool Wolf (Rebuy Super Bounty) €3.30R, 10 min blinds, 6 levels late reg with shallow stacks (2K/2K/4K) @14:40 GMT
€1,000 Nightly Turbo Rebuy Super Bounty - Bigger version of the €200 added yesterday, being a €22R @19:15 GMT
Changed:
€400 Afternoon Super Bounty -> €500 Afternoon Super Bounty
€2,000 The Deep Fifty-Five - Now a booster (another full 10K stack for €33) instead of a regular freezeout
€400 The Mini Deep Fifty-Five - same as above (€3.30 Boost)
€40 The Micro Deep Fifty-Five - same as above (€0.33 Boost)
26th September 2018
Added:
€200 Mini Nightly Turbo Rebuy Super Bounty - €2.20 BI, 6 min blinds, 15 levels late reg (5K/5K/10K) @ 19:15 GMT
Changed:
€600 1R1A now 12x 8 minute levels instead of 8x 12 minute levels. Stacks increased from 3K/3K/6K to 5K/5K/10K @17:10 GMT
Sunday Only: Terminator (Super Bounty) is now a €55 with a €4,000 guarantee, daily stays as a €33 with a €1K guarantee @17:30 GMT
28th September 2018
Changed:
€1,000 Nightly Turbo Rebuy Super Bounty -> €1,250 Nightly Turbo Rebuy Super Bounty
€1,000 Turbo Early Bird 1R1A -> €1,250 Turbo Early Bird 1R1A
€500 Crazy Booster - now a €500 2R1A €11/€5.50/€5.50
27th September 2018
Added:
€200 Cool Wolf (Rebuy Super Bounty) €3.30R, 10 min blinds, 6 levels late reg with shallow stacks (2K/2K/4K) @14:40 GMT
€1,000 Nightly Turbo Rebuy Super Bounty - Bigger version of the €200 added yesterday, being a €22R @19:15 GMT
Changed:
€400 Afternoon Super Bounty -> €500 Afternoon Super Bounty
€2,000 The Deep Fifty-Five - Now a booster (another full 10K stack for €33) instead of a regular freezeout
€400 The Mini Deep Fifty-Five - same as above (€3.30 Boost)
€40 The Micro Deep Fifty-Five - same as above (€0.33 Boost)
26th September 2018
Added:
€200 Mini Nightly Turbo Rebuy Super Bounty - €2.20 BI, 6 min blinds, 15 levels late reg (5K/5K/10K) @ 19:15 GMT
Changed:
€600 1R1A now 12x 8 minute levels instead of 8x 12 minute levels. Stacks increased from 3K/3K/6K to 5K/5K/10K @17:10 GMT
Sunday Only: Terminator (Super Bounty) is now a €55 with a €4,000 guarantee, daily stays as a €33 with a €1K guarantee @17:30 GMT
this doesn't disappoint me- the communication between you and the Players was always good till very good! i have no doubt ab your work and i believe/trust you 100% that you are closely with the pokerteam...many examples for this- (and the good communication/results- sometimes very fast) -i could say if my english would be better
all good for me! ! ! and respect for YOU in person!
but i think im out now...i will not Play 200k stacks anymore...and only for THIS cash game and sit&gos i dont want to Play!
there's a Point you/i must respect the way it goes...there's nothing to say for me anymore!
all the best
all good for me! ! ! and respect for YOU in person!
but i think im out now...i will not Play 200k stacks anymore...and only for THIS cash game and sit&gos i dont want to Play!
there's a Point you/i must respect the way it goes...there's nothing to say for me anymore!
all the best
Unable to login to Party.. blank screen for login
reboot, no go
suggestions ?
reboot, no go
suggestions ?
PP: We're increasing the 30K starting stacks to 100K...
Players: We don't like 100K starting stacks, there too big...
PP: Ok, we're now increasing them to 200K...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
Players: We need more buy-in levels and less of a jump between buy-ins...
PP: Ok, we've added more buy-in levels...
Players: Great, a lot more people are playing on PP now...
PP: We're removing previously added buy-in levels...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
PP: We're adding mix/max/deep games to the schedule...
Players: Cool, a bit more variety to choose from...
PP: When we say 'adding', what we actually mean is 'replacing' pretty much everything with these games and offering very little of anything else.
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
PP: We're removing most of the re-entries and reducing late reg times...
Players: Great, this will result in a much improved overall MTT experience
PP: We're re-introducing the previously removed re-entries and extending late reg times...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP
__________
PP Rep: All feedback noted and passed on to management...
PP Management: All feedback ignored...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
Players: We don't like 100K starting stacks, there too big...
PP: Ok, we're now increasing them to 200K...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
Players: We need more buy-in levels and less of a jump between buy-ins...
PP: Ok, we've added more buy-in levels...
Players: Great, a lot more people are playing on PP now...
PP: We're removing previously added buy-in levels...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
PP: We're adding mix/max/deep games to the schedule...
Players: Cool, a bit more variety to choose from...
PP: When we say 'adding', what we actually mean is 'replacing' pretty much everything with these games and offering very little of anything else.
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
__________
PP: We're removing most of the re-entries and reducing late reg times...
Players: Great, this will result in a much improved overall MTT experience
PP: We're re-introducing the previously removed re-entries and extending late reg times...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP
__________
PP Rep: All feedback noted and passed on to management...
PP Management: All feedback ignored...
Players: We're no longer playing on PP.
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