Hi guys,

After a LOT of demand for opening a new thread and making things clearer than a thread that was 3 years old, I decided to make it. I actually had it on to-do list on the first week of January, but after the failing with the servers and repeated requests re:refunds, it obviously wouldnt have made sense to.

Firstly, just want to say Happy Birthday to Colette, she is an absolute superstar and really works very hard for your voices to be heard, whenever you're thinking about potentially getting mad at her, just remember she is doing everything in her power for your voice to be heard.

So, 2.0, what does that mean? Since starting the thread, we have gone through a transition period and moving into 2018 we now are going to have a bit more of an identity and idea of where we are and where we're going to be. Without all you loyal guys sticking with us through and after poor software and problems with servers, tournaments overunning etc our site wouldnt exist. It's VERY important to attract recreational players, but we also understand that without regulars game do not run, and for that all of you guys are very, very much appreciated.

The most logical / balanced guys from the previous thread from a range of all stakes and backgrounds/countries we invited to a player panel who help a lot with issues, their work is very much appreciated, and I will for sure be inviting more guys onto it in the future, again only from this thread.

So, February 5th is the start of our new weekly Leaderboard, giving away tens of thousands of dollars every week we believe that it will be one of the most exciting leaderboards of all time and expect field sizes to grow a lot because of it. We have ideas about how we want things to be and some visions for improvements.

1- We implemented a new RB scheme last year where amateurs and regulars receive money at the start of the week to be able to grind if they have been unsuccessful

2- We implemented (in our opinion) the best phone APP on the market

3- We have invested a lot into customer service staff to ensure that players voices are heard quickly and clearly, something that I think a lot of people will see a great improvement in the next few months

4- We invested in data analysis to ensure we can offer the best promotions to players

5- We have invested in more resources for software which we all know is very important. Unfortunately there was delays in some new builds, but I understand its moving forward very quickly and will give concrete dates when I know about it

6- We trialed a new low/mid stakes series, which didn't work as planned, but a lot of things were learned and we expect to repeat that AT LEAST 1 more time this year

7- Our powerfest events are bigger and bigger and we are looking to offer better schedules every time

8- Our daily schedule is on the route for revamp/improvement in different ways, we believe adding daily specials would be a really good addition that could run at all the pricepoints and something a "little different" and "refreshing" every day. If people had some speicfic ideas then they will 100% be listened to, you could list like:
Monday:
Tuesday:
Wednesday:
Thursday:
Friday:
Saturday:

9- We have in our opinion the best live series in the world, we continue to invest in it to bring new players to the site who have a good experience under the live partypoker brand.

10- We have introduced turbos on request of players that are popular, but understand that we need to make sure they run at the correct times and correct buy ins so not to cannabalize

11- We have introduced PKO's on request of players that are popular, but understand that we need to make sure they run at the correct times and correct buy ins so not to cannabalize, also potentially need to rebrand to something a little "sexier" any suggestions on names would be listened to.

There has been a bunch of delays in releasing a full new schedule, but there has been different exciting things implemented such as powerfest, millions online, punta cana, powerfest again etc. From February 5th there will be the leaderboard ensuring the new schedule must be ready by then.

In terms of how the thread works, Colette does her amazing job replying to everybody, when there is changes in terms of MTTs etc I will try and outline the strategic reason because of it and identify educated people within the thread to advise and ensure players of all stakes are heard of. If there is no reply from me for a week, I haven't gone broke, haven't ran away its just because there is no reason to announce anything and more important to spend time working on whatever needs to be worked on.

Please keep everything constructive and pleasant, sure we enjoy the community, sure we enjoy helping, sure we enjoy our jobs, but we don't need to be spoken to aggressively or accused of doing malicious things. I promise you everybody involved is on the same team and wants the same thing all of you guys do.

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nice thread man

regard the recent changes my only problem was the poor communication and the reasons from those changes, other than that a lot of the things posted in the old thread were implemented which is very nice

i dont know what are the software limitations but i think it would be very nice to have a fast forward mtt in the daily specials

cheers

Good thread Pads.

Really like the direction Party is going. Was a bit sad to see that you changed the 18:00cet timeslot into PKO. Would love to see that changed back, or maybe some days PKO an other days FO.

I have an amazing idea, I'd normally charge for something this stellar but I like you guys so you can have it for free.

1. Rename all (or at least most) PKOs: *drumroll*
2. Remove the bounty part from the tournaments
3. ?????????????
4. Profit

I know its my 2nd post and Id like to prove that Im your fan for what you have done for this community, trying to make changes,
your cares, thoughts, statements and your achivements are truly honourable these concern to Collette. There is no question for sure. So maybe it will be my last reply (or not) cause of that I dont want to start your new thread with this but.....

Have you ever considered that you can not ride 2 (or more) horses with one ass? I mean you have to make preferences. Whats the most important thing, the 2nd, the 3rd etc. You cant do all things from day to day. As I read your newest writing I see you exactly want to do this. There are steps in economy aspect which you cant left out from the formula. I believe its not your call and you only make proposals, ideas but these all seem like there are idea makeres with good thoughts and there is nobody who can build it like an architect. Or there is only one person who is not able to do all those stuffs alone instead of a team who can make it real.

In my opinion you need to start from the root. I think you jumped into the middle atleast with the communacation. You had the way, but missed for now, have to develop a competitive softwere first because the actual one is a disaster I can count many things but everybody knows (yes its better than a half years ago I have to admit it). After that you have many streets where you can go but for us please make a reasonable daily schedule and after that you can improve any other area as live events/satellites. There will be more players overall and on the satellites aswell. Nowadays I can not accept that you could not have done since six months or so with your possibilities and backgrounds in IT. I can not believe that you cant hire new employees if its neccessery. For the record I would not like to fire anyone but for me it seems like somebody blew something.

The points you mentioned are really nice but please you can not believe all of those.

Daily specials sounds like a good idea!

You should have one mini version for them too and many decent sats during the week for the bigger buyin.

something like this with some cool names:
Monday: $11 pko / $109 pko
Tuesday: $22 8max / $215 8max
Wednesday: $55 6max / $530 6max
Thursday: $109 8max / $1050 8max
Friday: $22 6max pko / $215 6max Pko
Saturday: $11rebuy / $109 rebuy

For bounty tournaments, I agree you should use a different name and a different colour for them and rather have few with larger guarantees than many smaller ones.

Something like above would be nice. But I would like to see similar tounaments across differnent rooms. If two rooms have big KO day on thursday, I'm personally not going to play an 8-max freezout in the third room. Same for tuesday, if you have two big tournaments going on, playing a 215 8max is not adding much.

Def adding the cool names.. but going for something like this.

Monday: $11 pko / $109 pko
Tuesday: $215 8max / $2600 8max
Wednesday: $22 6/8max / $215 6/8max
Thursday: $55 8max Pko / $530 8max Pko
Friday: $22 6max turbo / $215 6max turbo
Saturday: $11rebuy / $109 rebuy

In reference to point 9: Deep stacks $5-$55, same structure as p stars and/or a daily marathon maybe a $11 one and a $55 one.

Just some normal good freezeouts like the Bigs on stars, tho hopefully a better structure then them. Need decent guarantees on them. Would like to see an $11, $22, $55 big daily.

No one wants to play PKOS with less then 1000 players as booties aren't meaningful.

i have no words anymore!!!

what a waste of time...all the month waiting for the "super Software"....for the dec/jan update etc....you are kidding us!!! 2 tablethems only, !!! ???? ah yes and the "Oldtimer" with the Avatars...great....
i feel trapped
but you guys work 24hours per day and sleep in the Office yes???
not ONE 9HANDED TOURNAMENT....onlyyyyyyyyyy 8max----im sorry but ****off!
im out i dont Play at your site anymore(and i Played Party over many many years-after bwin was in- i played only at this site!!!!, you bandits you are kidding us all!
i remember the mtt shedule bwinparty -it was great-creative etc.! hypers deepstacks Turbos regular 9handed 6max...we had em all-----i dont know what you are doing!!!!!!!!!!!!foff

I have to say, i really enjoy the new structures atleast the 12 levels of latereg the fast blind levels early on, as someone who casually plays when i get home from work in the evenings it really works out well.

Please reduce the amount of pko's, at least make a few of them 6-max, bring back regular 9 handed mtts also. I would like to see more buy in's added like $3.30, 7.50, 16.50, 33s etc.

And please could you finally add start times :15 :30 :45, all mtts on the hour just ruins the schedule imo, it's no fun to wait until the hour to start a new tournament, we don't want everything so repetitive, do this and i would be happy to play on your site.

Monday: "Monday madness" L:$11psko/M:$109psko/H:$1050psko

Tuesday: "the Tuesday cube" L:$3.30 1r1a(15kss/15k rebuy/30k add on, using similar structure to brawls)/M:$33 1r1a(25kss/25k rebuy 50k add on,using similar structure to uppecut)/H:$330 1r1a(50kss/50k add on/100k add on, using similar structure to HR's)

Wednesday: "The Wednesday stack" L: $5/M: $55/H $530 (mega stacks, with progressive clocks going from 12-15-20min levels)

Thursday: "Throwback Thursday" L:$11r/M:$109r/H$1050r(alternative is L:$5r/M:$55r/H:$109r/HR:$1050r)


Friday: "Frantic Friday" L:$5 6max psko/M:$55 6max psko/H:$530 6max psko


Saturday: "Super Saturday" L:$11/M:$109/H$1050/SHR:$5k deepstack 20min clock, 2 day events finishing on Sunday

Less PKO's. ALOT LESS

add some recurring 6-max across several buyins. Some turbo, fewer PKO's. But some! How does the 2nd biggest site have zero 6-max. Is this a joke. They are back on for powerfest and performed extremely well in last powerfest. Add 1 daily major 6-max. Give it a name and a decent gtd.

Reg speeds/majors on the hour, sats at :05, turbos at :30, etc

Replace some existing PKO's w freezeouts.

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This is how party works from my experience. They make extremely rash and abrupt sudden changes, players clog the forums complaining how terrible the changes are and why for months. They finally listen and revert back, and make changes for the better when prior discussions could have avoided it in the first place.

Then they turn around and do the same thing all over again. Rinse and repeat. Enough is enough. How some of this stuff gets through is beyond me.

FYI party has been my sole online poker site for 10+ years know. I've been through it all.

https://www.americascardroom.eu/onli...w-tournaments/

maybe you guys over @ party can get inspired by acr ?

Obviously PKO MTTs wont go away, but the situation right now is ridiculous!
CET: 15:00,17:00,18:00,19:00 only PKO MTTs! I don't know it is just today or what? Have a nice balanced schedule, I just wont play party until its better balanced, like today I opened the client and have to close it, so I dont get tilted at the start of the session.

You guys are doing great things, but things like this wont help! I don't know whos idea was this schedule, but don't think he should do this in the future..

Please add more tournaments called 'Brawl', I think current number is not enough and amateurs don't enjoy the variety enough yet.


Also please keep spending money on hiring more online pros unknown to anyone besides other online pros instead of investing in better server infrastructure or specialist who could've worked on a completely new software. I think amateurs really enjoy chatting to some pro's they've never heard about while their tournament is frozen on Sunday, so its important to bring more.

"So, February 5th is the start of our new weekly Leaderboard, giving away tens of thousands of dollars every week we believe that it will be one of the most exciting leaderboards of all time and expect field sizes to grow a lot because of it. We have ideas about how we want things to be and some visions for improvements."

Glad to here there are going to be changes. If increased field size is a goal however daily leaderboards would be far better. Even a few top regs have mentioned here that they do not play 7 days a week.

Considering one reg won a reputed 20 CPP packages I would hope it's big changes that are planned?

edit: And do you honestly expect a non-time restricted leaderboard to help field size when tournaments run from 2 to 9 am?

Why is this a problem? 8handed as a standard is so much nicer than 9handed...

how did it even get to this? they need to rip this up and start over.

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3

Apart from that, am I the only one who think that the structures are way too turbo again? I think the lvls should be 12 mins from the beginning as it was before since a couple lvls have been taken out.

Where is/what happened to Bryan?

introducing a weekly 500-1k buy-in range PLO MTT would be pretty cool - pretty sure that atm the highest buy-in outside of festivals is a 109.

Agreed there is a need for more balance/ variation, but I think the PKOs are awesome and clearly appeal to alot of RECs. However imo the rake should be less than for a standard Freezeout.

Couple of hypers (with appropriate rake) would be good for everyone aswell. Heads-up hyper mtts are also great fun and have proven to be very popular on Stars in the past.

tbh because of Bryan's history working on COOP's this question should be answered without specifics. A lot of players... myself included put a lot of faith in Bryan's ability to make solid online Series... so if he's not involved it presents a potential void that may or not be filled.

Thanks all.

Fast Forward MTT isn't currently on the list, maybe for the 2nd/3rd powerfest of the year.

I think other sites have shown that this time frame has been very popular for PKOs, especially in the 530/215 buy in range. Our field sizes in f/o here were pretty small and I think didn't have potential to end up big tournaments, the 530 PKO we have I think can get to 200+ runners. I think having three of them all together is a little cannabalistic though.

Thanks for the free advice. Field sizes actually are bigger and recreationals deposits turn over more at the moment than previously so really as it is

3. ???????
4. Profit

However, your general, albeit aggressive tone, is heard. Removing all PKO's from a site and making them freeze outs would be one of the worst and backward decisions we could make at this time and this is coming from a reg who doesn't enjoy playing PKO's.

I mean I can't build software with my own hands guys, if I could do it I would! We tell the software team what needs to be done and they try their best to do it ASAP, its not like we can just say ok, everybody, customer service, risk, everybody, today we're going to start building the software, bring your toolkits. The other parts of the company have to go on and hope the software catches up asap. There is large teams working on software, dedicated roadmaps to get us to where we need to be. Obviously I wish it was done much sooner, but there really is not much I can do about it until its done except for stress the importance and believe me if you ask anybody at pp who is the biggest moaner and asker for things they will say myself.

Thanks for feedback mates.


Thanks for feedback.

"No one wants to play PKOs with less than 1000 players"

well this simply isn't true, our PKO turbos for example which are in a much worse timeslot outperform our normal turbos, and on almost every site pkos with less than 1000 players outperform their freeze out rival.

Our vision supports having 8max tournaments, you see more hands, recreational players get to see more flops, less waiting around, more action etc. 9 max is basically only made because of live restrictions. I can guarantee you 8max is a lot more popular than 9 max with every form of players.

In terms of software, again, I can't build it with my own hands, we give as much feedback as possible and the team work hard to achieve the goal, I hope its done asap.

Thanks, they have proven to be very popular thus far.

I think I've replied to you 5+ times in the last year about 9 handed MTT's Jambo, our position hasn't changed on them. As the user base grows we will add more buy in options.

tyvm.

Reason for big changes is simply because of big changes in our user base. I'm not sure I am legally allowed to share the numbers, but our CPD's have dramatically increased this time from last year, we want to run big promos like leaderboards and schedules change because of it, but then seasonality like summer/wsop etc means we have to revert and slow down a bit. I promise you the ideal situation for us all is a schedule that supports itself with no promos, doesn't get effected by seasonality etc.

Played one of these tournaments today to see how they are and it was cancelled whilst I was playing. Not sure what happened there. In general, we're trying to stay away from the 5 hours late reg though, we believe 2 hours late reg is best for all concerned, atm.

The addition of daily specials will work well here allowing us to have an early version and a main version, assuringly replacing 2 pkos for v nice freeze outs.

Obviously I'm not expecting professional poker players to be marketing experts, but the above message really is one that wastes a lot of time with negative tone and obvious ridiculous statements. There is obviously not a situation where we say oh lets not add x to our software lets hire a pro instead. If you look at the actual roster of pros they have added a lot of value to the site.

Trickett runs huge cash games bringing lots of people to the site watching the game
Sexton true hero of poker, bringing credibility to the site and acting as chairman
Lodden / Joni, helping huge surge of new players from Scandinavia who have always been a big contribution to the poker ecology
Anatoly, doing the same with Russia
Joao, same with Brazil
Krissy, playing on poker after dark and number 1 female player in the world
Richard, really close ties with the biggest South American communities responsible for bringing tonnes of action
Fedor, consulting with live tour, adding credibility, helped with communication with German speakers
Padraig/Natalia, doing awesome jobs in grassroots helping us bring lots of UK recreational players to the site.

etc etc

partypoker pros from what I've seen do as much if not more than any pro's from other sites, they are responsible for getting more and more players to the site and being fantastic ambassadors, almost all of them actually play on partypoker very regularly too at all stakes. I really don't feel like I should even have to reply to bitter, nasty, jealous, angry posts like this one and won't reply any further to users like this but I think its important the stance on the team is very clear and that they aren't unfairly criticised. I promise to other users on this forum, all members of the team also want software to be better, also want the tournaments to be optimised and all have a voice that is able to be heard in different channels.


I think the leaderboards will be announced very soon how they will work. IMO as many people as possible should have a chance of winning.

I agree.


Turbo in what way? The average stacks from what I have seen have always been great at 30+bbs. Just looking at 3 final tables now and they all have 40bb average.

Bryan is no longer associated with partypoker.

Yeah, I think this has potential, I know during powerfests even the 109 plo overlaid after people for asking for it to be bigger, so not sure how soon we can implement.

Good points, cheers.