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09-04-2018 , 03:39 PM
I don't really understand the push for mix max tournaments, but I especially don't understand reintroducing it during a series without having properly tested it. Powerfest have been paused for 30 minutes so far. I remember there being a lot of problems and refunds the last time they ran as well.
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09-04-2018 , 05:14 PM
please put everyone out there misery and go back to 5/10k starting stacks and normal blind levels.
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09-04-2018 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jambo227
please put everyone out there misery and go back to 5/10k starting stacks and normal blind levels.
+1, don't get why they forced these smooth structures on everything but few powerfest tourneys
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09-04-2018 , 06:48 PM
WCOOP and Partyfest cannibalize each other especially nowadays.

I skip a lot of Partyfest events bc of scoop/wcoop and many others as well I think, one of reason is PS events are still better w/o reentries.
Maybe you should run Partyfest later, but I understand its odd and hard to say when this "later" should happen.

edit - another thing is 8max/6max always shallow-stacked MTTs require more attention. Maybe you should skip some natural DS full-ring MTT especially during big series.

Last edited by user12345; 09-04-2018 at 06:58 PM.
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09-04-2018 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mement_mori
Also I don't see the option to remove the bb conversion under table options, could someone please screenshot where the checkbox is, would be much appreciated.
Here you go:





For anyone who isn't aware, there is actually an easier way to turn this feature on or off 'instantly and with a single click of the mouse' and can be done whilst your at the tables.

If you look at the following pic, you will see I have highlighted (in red) a chip stack on a players name plate:





All you do is, simply click on that highlighted chip stack (you can do this on any chip stack and on any players name plate) and it will automatically change all the chip stacks to BB, as can be seen in the next pic:





One click to turn the feature on and one click to turn it off again. You just do this whenever you want.

I personally don't use the lobby setting for this feature at all (as you can see by my first pic of the settings and not having anything ticked). I simply just change it at the tables whenever I wish to.

Hope this helps...
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09-04-2018 , 07:53 PM
Perfect, thank you so much I think I was confused because Party was automatically doing conversion despite me not having enabled it for anything which was causing Partycaption conversion not to work properly. Clicking on the stack worked perfectly though and is a very elegant solution imo.
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09-04-2018 , 10:04 PM
great stuff BB stack thing
ty
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09-04-2018 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Re8uZ
great stuff BB stack thing
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Good for preflop only t the moment, but the main purpose of stack BB is actually post flop to manage optimal sizings when bluffing or value betting....

Let s say i want to leave vilain a PSB on the turn when flop a big hand, it s pretty hard to do with a mix 22.5BB on the player plate and the pot still left with chips ....
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09-05-2018 , 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by mement_mori
I don't really understand the push for mix max tournaments, but I especially don't understand reintroducing it during a series without having properly tested it. Powerfest have been paused for 30 minutes so far. I remember there being a lot of problems and refunds the last time they ran as well.
Hi - the issue was with event#17 only, the games were resumed excluding event#17 L which was cancelled for manual settlement following the pause issue
Please accept our apologies for the inconvenience

Colette
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09-05-2018 , 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Mimicry
When BWIN will get the updated software also ? I cannot play this trash software so i almost stop playing bwin/party ....or u cannot give me answer because u are not in touch with them ?
I spoke with the bwin team and they have no planned date to share for updates, they assured me its in the pipeline but I have no further info to share - sorry
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09-05-2018 , 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by party_Rep
Hi - the issue was with event#17 only, the games were resumed excluding event#17 L which was cancelled for manual settlement following the pause issue
Please accept our apologies for the inconvenience

Colette
It's no problem but I do feel like it would be nice if there was slightly more information given to the players. There were no popup at the table (it just closed after about an hour), no emails being sent out afterwards and just looking at the client it's not obvious to me if there are refunds credited or not.
I just think a little direct communication when there are these technical hiccups would go a long way. As annoying as the stars cancellations are I do appreciate the automated emails describing how the refunds are calculated and how much we receive. Maybe Party could consider implementing a similar system?
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09-05-2018 , 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mement_mori
It's no problem but I do feel like it would be nice if there was slightly more information given to the players. There were no popup at the table (it just closed after about an hour), no emails being sent out afterwards and just looking at the client it's not obvious to me if there are refunds credited or not.
I just think a little direct communication when there are these technical hiccups would go a long way. As annoying as the stars cancellations are I do appreciate the automated emails describing how the refunds are calculated and how much we receive. Maybe Party could consider implementing a similar system?
Noted - we are looking at improvements for our overall communication and at such times, as you say feedback is essential
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09-05-2018 , 07:49 AM
Why is the pot not displayed in bb? its good for preflop but once ure post its distracting and i always have to turn it of.
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09-05-2018 , 02:34 PM
This 'display in BB' update sure is a great way to reward people who are too lazy/ incapable of calculating some basic maths themselves. Constantly leveling the playing-field right ...

I mean, its not like calculating stack/ pot sizes in increments of big blinds is an integral part of playing poker or anything ...

I guess because 3rd party software does this for a lot of players anyways + new 'smooth' structures it is necessary change anyways ...

Last edited by Gooner933; 09-05-2018 at 02:44 PM.
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09-06-2018 , 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by alberthofmann
Why is the pot not displayed in bb? its good for preflop but once ure post its distracting and i always have to turn it of.
+1
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09-06-2018 , 01:56 PM
anyone notice how flat 6 max payouts are in big field tourneys ?

1st pays like 12.5% while in a tourney with the same field size 8 max pays 15.5% to first.
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09-07-2018 , 08:59 AM
Why are the main events Mix/Max today?? Is this only for today or permanent? Sigh... skipping Party today.
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09-07-2018 , 12:09 PM
looks like its daily, seems like a terrible play to make ur main event this

like others have said, stop ****ing around with the schedule every week
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09-07-2018 , 01:00 PM
I know Patrick push hard for the mix-max and that he has a lot of say but I seriously don't understand who they are supposed to be for. People who enjoy playing shorthanded would rather have played a 6-max tournament and you just turn potential people off who would have played a regular tournament but aren't interested in playing shorthanded, this hybrid format is just a lose-lose. The pros are probably going to turn up regardless but certainly there will be recs skipping because of the format. That's not to mention that the site is already 8-handed to begin with so the change is even more unnecessary than on most other sites and the pros have an even bigger edge than in the regular version. I predict attendance will drop and Party will add even more re-entries to it. Please live the schedule as it is for a bit, all I have heard people say they want is nice vanilla tournaments with a solid sattie system, good structures without absurd levels and somewhere between none and one re-entry.
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09-07-2018 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mement_mori
I don't really understand the push for mix max tournaments, but I especially don't understand reintroducing it during a series without having properly tested it. Powerfest have been paused for 30 minutes so far. I remember there being a lot of problems and refunds the last time they ran as well.
Partypoker has a 6max fetish for some reason . If they can't get away with making every tourney 6max then they sneak it in with the mixmax

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Originally Posted by jambo227
please put everyone out there misery and go back to 5/10k starting stacks and normal blind levels.
Why would they do this sane thing when instead they can put extra zeroes on the stacks to make it more confusing for everyone
I love having 7 fig stacks whilst not being itm
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09-07-2018 , 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Frogman3
Partypoker has a 6max fetish for some reason . If they can't get away with making every tourney 6max then they sneak it in with the mixmax



Why would they do this sane thing when instead they can put extra zeroes on the stacks to make it more confusing for everyone
I love having 7 fig stacks whilst not being itm
+1 and we all love irony....

Few remarks (and they always the same aka common sense) :

1- Daily rebuys - Ok to introduce
NOT OK WITH 7min/5min smooth **** = 4h30/5hrs to ITM
unplayable for micro

2- Where are the sats for powerfest ??? after one month when you did well with some 3$ to 33$, you are back to forcing your 109$/215$
There was a post on your blog saying :
#FOLLOWING PLAYER FEEDBACKS WE GAVE UP FEEDERS AND INTRODUCVE DIRECT QUALIFIERS#
Well, of course you ve deleted it from your blog so you don t look to ridiculous to change the wheel again after a month experiment....LAME

3- What s the purpose of a fast-smooth-deepstack ???
lots of chips for ages and then a lottery when approaching FT = boring player first -then forced to shove any 2 palying 10bb poker at FT....
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09-08-2018 , 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by MangeTaSueur
#FOLLOWING PLAYER FEEDBACKS
What I would like to know is, just where are they getting this 'player feedback' from?!

I say that, because there doing the opposite to what the majority of players are asking for here and therefore it seems that there must be some overwhelming feedback coming in from other sources that, results in our feedback being seen as inconsequential.

For the record...

I for one am starting to get a bit fed up with the constant and wholesale changes happening on PP week after week. It's been going on for many months now. PP keep making big announcements of what's going to be implemented and then once done, those things usually only last for a week or two before being changed again in some way or in a lot of cases, being removed again completely.

My confidence in PP and those making the decisions in regards to the MTT schedule heading in the right direction is dwindling rapidly, especially as that direction keeps constantly changing and is no longer clear.

There's so much ongoing uncertainty and instability associated with the schedule that, it's getting to the stage now where my thoughts are swaying towards playing more elsewhere.

At least with other sites I can have some confidence in regards to knowing whats on offer on a daily basis and can plan ahead. I know what i'm going to get or see when logging in, with regards to MTT types/structures being consistent and when changes are made, there usually minimal.

I just wish I could say the same for PP.

If your really wanting to boost player numbers and have more players support your schedule on an ongoing basis (not just for series events - such as Powerfest etc...) then IMO, you really need to stop with the constant ongoing wholesale changes and actually give implemented things a decent chance...
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09-08-2018 , 02:25 AM
What is the purpose of these mix-max tournaments? If someone wants to play 6 max, they play 6 max. Thats like okay you start out 6 max and then later on go to 8 max. Makes no sense. Notice in the main event tournaments not only are they mix-max... they are now deep stack of 200k vs 100k. Does partypoker like to make tournaments last a very long time etc? I recalled they had tournaments where it took like 5.5 hours to be ITM... those deepstack tournaments.


Also why are some tournaments 5 minute levels whereas some are 10 minute levels and others are 12 minutes. Then you have smooth tournaments which take like 5 hours to be itm almost. Its like you see a tournament and its powerfest but some will be 5 minute levels, others are 10 minute levels others are 12 minute levels... and these are not the smooth tournaments.


But most importantly, whose idea is it to start with 100k chips and 500/1000 blinds. That just makes no sense. Every other site you start with 5k or 10k chips. Now if you have 100k chips, thats a lot. Well not on partypoker. Then of course you have tournaments where you start with 200k chips. Its like when you start playing and raise to those bigger bet sizes, well you think you are much more deeper in the tournament... nope you just started. Also notice in many tournaments thats are labeled as fast... these are not even that fast. A stars turbo tournament would be faster than a partypoker fast tournament and have at least 3x the amount of players.
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09-08-2018 , 02:32 AM
On a related topic, do most of you guys play party as your primary site for mtt or is it stars? Im guessing for tournament players, its stars, then party and then winamax/888 right?


Also i always thought stars was the toughest site in terms of skill but after playing on partypoker, i notice the level of play seems to be pretty high compared to stars. Im talking about low and some mid stakes. Does anyone here agree/disagree with this? I recalled someone mentioned party is reg infested because of the rakeback etc but i cant imagine this being the reason because well tournament players dont pay that much rake unless they play mid to high stakes tournaments.
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09-08-2018 , 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by xLAGERTHAx
What I would like to know is, just where are they getting this 'player feedback' from?!

I say that, because there doing the opposite to what the majority of players are asking for here and therefore it seems that there must be some overwhelming feedback coming in from other sources that, results in our feedback being seen as inconsequential.

For the record...

I for one am starting to get a bit fed up with the constant and wholesale changes happening on PP week after week. It's been going on for many months now. PP keep making big announcements of what's going to be implemented and then once done, those things usually only last for a week or two before being changed again in some way or in a lot of cases, being removed again completely.

My confidence in PP and those making the decisions in regards to the MTT schedule heading in the right direction is dwindling rapidly, especially as that direction keeps constantly changing and is no longer clear.

There's so much ongoing uncertainty and instability associated with the schedule that, it's getting to the stage now where my thoughts are swaying towards playing more elsewhere.

At least with other sites I can have some confidence in regards to knowing whats on offer on a daily basis and can plan ahead. I know what i'm going to get or see when logging in, with regards to MTT types/structures being consistent and when changes are made, there usually minimal.

I just wish I could say the same for PP.

If your really wanting to boost player numbers and have more players support your schedule on an ongoing basis (not just for series events - such as Powerfest etc...) then IMO, you really need to stop with the constant ongoing wholesale changes and actually give implemented things a decent chance...
hi,

Monster series over....great update....powerfest....and the next Monster series is waiting....what you want more? we are on a good way i believe...

i agree with a few things obv but let them work.


gl
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