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04-25-2018 , 05:56 PM
I would suggest:
step 1: Make stable daily schedule same for every day.
step 2: Add special events different for each day.
step 3: Don't change this every day.
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04-26-2018 , 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Sect7G
In fairness it's very tough to make a good schedule when you are offering an A for guarantees but only have C+ for a player pool. This is in effect what is happening with Party. The guarantees are not organically feasible without drastic actions taken which have repercusions elsewhere in the product.

A lot of decisions are rash and mistakes are bound to happen when you don't go with a natural ecosystem.
Stars never changes the schedule over night because they have a good idea ahead of time what the end result will be. That is how things should be done. Even their negative changes are done with precise timing.

This is exactly why more GTD without a good product is just a cloud of smoke that fades away very quick....
It just feels that PP is run from a garage in Yorkshire by two teenagers who decide to change schedules in function of how many beers they drank the night before.

You need John Duthie in your online team asap
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04-26-2018 , 06:45 AM
[QUOTE=MangeTaSueur;53756872]This is exactly why more GTD without a good product is just a cloud of smoke that fades away very quick....
It just feels that PP is run from a garage in Yorkshire by two teenagers who decide to change schedules in function of how many beers they drank the night before.

You need John Duthie in your online team asap [/QUOTE]

That is.... a great idea. And it would be great timing since schedule is clearly not fixed yet. The success of the EPT was phenomenal considering how tight the margins are for live poker.

(Btw I was wrong on bountys - yea the late reg is earlier than previously)
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04-26-2018 , 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MangeTaSueur
This is exactly why more GTD without a good product is just a cloud of smoke that fades away very quick....
It just feels that PP is run from a garage in Yorkshire by two teenagers who decide to change schedules in function of how many beers they drank the night before.

You need John Duthie in your online team asap [/QUOTE]

That is.... a great idea. And it would be great timing since schedule is clearly not fixed yet. The success of the EPT was phenomenal considering how tight the margins are for live poker.

(Btw I was wrong on bountys - yea the late reg is earlier than previously)
He s already in charge of the PP live events that are a huge success, so looking at the online mess probaby didn t put his nose in it but will greatly benefit if he does in the future. finger crossed
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04-26-2018 , 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by MangeTaSueur
This is exactly why more GTD without a good product is just a cloud of smoke that fades away very quick....
It just feels that PP is run from a garage in Yorkshire by two teenagers who decide to change schedules in function of how many beers they drank the night before.

You need John Duthie in your online team asap
Haha!
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04-26-2018 , 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Mystic
Haha!
Better laughing than crying but right now u have Deepstack mixed with 6max and smooth structure mixed with KO format.

Pretty much like pineapple on a pizza, two things that have nothing to do together......... it s a crime to offer it and a sin to order it
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04-26-2018 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by CorrectSide
I would suggest:
step 1: Make stable daily schedule same for every day.
step 2: Add special events different for each day.
step 3: Don't change this every day.
Soooooooo f******* true + step 1 variety for everyone.
After 20 posts of whining time for a positive one.
Just open client and i saw turbos (tours at .15 thank god),deepstacks
normals,pko 8max,pko 6max.Now add some theme day tours you want
and let the regs support the site and increase the prize pools.I think
this give most people who wrote here a big % of what they asked for and
what they think that will help party to grow.
I didn't notice buy ins but definetely big hypes for todays schedule.
Keep it up!!!
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04-26-2018 , 11:52 AM
Are Bwin going to be doing any promotions for powerfest at all? Nothing on their promotions page and no mention of powerfest yet.
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04-26-2018 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by the_bridler
Didnt notice till now but the final sunday championship events for powerfest(im guessing these are suppose to be your main event of the series) are pko.Big let down imo.Main events should always be clean with no pko or any other gimmick.

Should also maybe consider making it clearer these are your main event of the series if they are and bold them or colour them different so they stand out from everything else.
Huge +1 for this.

Having all championship events PKO is a big letdown. We already had a special PKO series.
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04-26-2018 , 11:25 PM
Great to see PLO/PLO8 additions to the Power Series!

14:30 (ET) seems just a bit late imo. How about starting them 1-2h earlier and extend late reg a little?
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04-27-2018 , 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by fragglerock45
Are Bwin going to be doing any promotions for powerfest at all? Nothing on their promotions page and no mention of powerfest yet.
+1
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04-27-2018 , 05:38 AM
bwin promotions
Hope main event pko is a bad joke.
Also put some satties to 22/33$ tours.
Out of my bankroll but would like to have a chance to play them.
A 2.2/3.3 5 seat gtd is fine.

Last edited by nikos ath23; 04-27-2018 at 05:44 AM.
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04-27-2018 , 06:06 AM
i really really like the "new" view at the tables with bigger betsize colours tweaked- this Little Thing brings so much!

now is Monster series at first...just wait! (bit funny when i remember the bwin rep...something like "we jump in" 1-2 post after this- and that was it till today)

yes, they looooove pkos- Point.

sats for 22,- buy in mtts etc....yes it would be great but i lose the hope.
my actually micro schedule Feedback:
i am at the Point where i max. Play the 3,3 buy in1,5k gtd rebuy in the morning 9.00 - the 1,5k gtd 2,2 buy in 17.00 - and the 3k gtd mainevent 3,3 buy in at 19.00 .
-and if i have really nothing to do plus the weather is bad i maybe Play the 13.00 6max deepstack and or the 15.00 2,2 smooth deepstack

i am not happy.

Minimum the 17.00 (or make it 16.00) 3,3 buy in 3k gtd pko 8 max i want back PLZ

i think you testing at the Moment 2,2 and 3,3 buy ins and at the same time 1,1 and 0,5 buy ins with mini gtds...how it run.....my Feedback is ( said it in another post): theres no Need for the 1,1 and 0,5
BUT if your idea is to bring something for the smallest smallest Players and/or atract. new rec. Players you could do this: make one or maybe a few small freerolls....every day...RESTRICT for Players who have deposited in lets say last 7 days...at the same time the micro Players would get with it something like rakeback- what they not get at the Moment.

and to have a shop is maybe not wrong too....tshirts hoodies caps....etc.
another idea: you could make it like 888 did (or still do- i dont know bec i Play not there last few years) tournaments where you can win tshirts hoodies etc....( maybe this as freeroll)
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04-27-2018 , 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by nikos ath23
bwin promotions
Hope main event pko is a bad joke.
Also put some satties to 22/33$ tours.
Out of my bankroll but would like to have a chance to play them.
A 2.2/3.3 5 seat gtd is fine.
Powerfest leaderboard starts in 3 days and nothing on Bwin about it. Is Bwin going back to their own leaderboard again so or what? Joke

edit: I assume Bwin rep is in Canada for partypoker tournament
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04-27-2018 , 06:37 AM
Bwinrep wrote 2 posts and disappear.
Maybe we should have a separate thread for bwin poker.
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04-27-2018 , 06:48 AM
All - thanks for the feedback, Ive collated the ideas and suggestions and shared them with the relevant people for review



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Originally Posted by fragglerock45
Are Bwin going to be doing any promotions for powerfest at all? Nothing on their promotions page and no mention of powerfest yet.
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Originally Posted by fragglerock45
Powerfest leaderboard starts in 3 days and nothing on Bwin about it. Is Bwin going back to their own leaderboard again so or what? Joke

edit: I assume Bwin rep is in Canada for partypoker tournament
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Originally Posted by nikos ath23
Bwinrep wrote 2 posts and disappear.
Maybe we should have a separate thread for bwin poker.
I don't know
Once again, I shall ask the bwin rep to review and feedback when possible
I've also shared your suggestion regarding a separate thread

Thanks

Colette
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04-27-2018 , 06:48 AM
All - to ensure our players have a shot at our Super high Roller events - we have added a POWERFEST sat schedule starting 6th May

You can find all the details in our blog>

https://www.partypoker.com/blog/powe...-launched.html
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04-27-2018 , 07:30 AM
If I enter the $1.10 Mega Feeder and win a $11 Mega Satellite ticket, is there a way that I can save that ticket for another day and not have it immediately register me for the following $11 Mega Satellite?

I ask this because I won a couple tickets before and they immediately dumped me into the Mega Sats, and I don't usually have time for both of them back to back, considering the Mega Satellite has the 5min blinds
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04-27-2018 , 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Razor Braun Fei
If I enter the $1.10 Mega Feeder and win a $11 Mega Satellite ticket, is there a way that I can save that ticket for another day and not have it immediately register me for the following $11 Mega Satellite?

I ask this because I won a couple tickets before and they immediately dumped me into the Mega Sats, and I don't usually have time for both of them back to back, considering the Mega Satellite has the 5min blinds

I don't even play them anymore for this reason. I have a couple of hours to play at night as I'm up for work in the morning. I have tried to unregister from the mega satellite after winning the ticket but sometimes it doesn't let you. I have lost about $200 worth of tickets due to this. There is a 7-day expiry on the tickets. I cant understand why you can't choose to use them when you want in that 7 day period. I've tried explaining that to the customer support staff but they don't care.
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04-27-2018 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Razor Braun Fei
If I enter the $1.10 Mega Feeder and win a $11 Mega Satellite ticket, is there a way that I can save that ticket for another day and not have it immediately register me for the following $11 Mega Satellite?

I ask this because I won a couple tickets before and they immediately dumped me into the Mega Sats, and I don't usually have time for both of them back to back, considering the Mega Satellite has the 5min blinds
I think if you act fast enough you can still register for the next day or so. I won a lot of these tickets and directly buyin for the next days with the ticket. It worked and you can register also for Sats in 48 or 72 hours etc, important is not to unregister then because when you do that your ticket is gone.

I also dont understand why party is putting you in the next possible event with autoregister. Thats insane stupid because a lot of people dont have time to play all these steps in one day.

I hope they will fix it soon and the tickets are useable for 7 days or so.
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04-27-2018 , 03:45 PM
Why is there no Title Fight or any other big gtd $215 tournament this Sunday in the schedule? What's the flagship tournament now on Sundays ?
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04-27-2018 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Colin_Piddle
You do realise that they call it deep stack because it is meant to take a long time right. 8 hours is very standard for a deep stacked mtt. Also its not the entire schedule its two different slots both very early in the day away from prime european time which is 2 to 3 hours later. The main events are still not deep stacked.
It changes every day, when I checked it looked too deep for me. I just said im not into that type of stuff playing for 2k for 8h. It should not be standard anywhere.

And I also mentioned that its fine with me if big MTTs run like 11h maybe sometimes 12 max (still its should be 30k+ up top or even more).

As from Stars perspective their MTTS with 20k+ scores run like 10h sometimes only more and those are with HUGE 1st place prizes.

regular few $-2kup top should run around 5h, 2k-5k up top tourney should run no longer than 5-7h (6h optimal), 5k-10k up top tourney around 8h, 10k-20k up top 9h, 20k+ up top 10h, more up top 11-13h. Is that not enough? Also it depends on number of players, but thats why you also adjust levels. like 2.6k buy in MTT w 100 players can run from 9-13h depending what players want and how many regulars play that 1. But for others you can make fast enough tourney with tons of ppl, so thats why you adjust levels so in the end starting stack and blind levels meet in consistent time.

and ok there can be deepstacks that is +2h to these timelines, but still there cant be too many of those.

There is people who have nothing to do (playing for fun), have people who have jobs (wake up early and/or get ready for a job), regs (playing like 8-10h sessions. sometimes more. depends), players who have tons of time and nothing to do (playin like 24h or w/e). Point is players are different and their need also, so there must be option for every one of them. and not like 3 options in 24h times. As many as possible to choose from. Time is valuable asset and it should be spent +ev not like grinding for amount of money you dont care so much and it not gona change your life for 15h or some **** like that.

Thats just my opinion and you can like it or not, but I dont think im the only 1 thinking like this.

Also I will try to write what the schedule should look like if I would make 1.

Last edited by sitoutguy; 04-27-2018 at 04:36 PM.
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04-27-2018 , 04:41 PM
Turbos go less then 5 hours, and a lot of the "faster" mtts shouldn't go much more then that so I'm sure you can play those.

I personally enjoy deep stacks and so do many others .

Last edited by Colin_Piddle; 04-27-2018 at 04:54 PM.
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04-27-2018 , 04:48 PM
I love micro fasts at :15 with small fields because it helps to get decent volume. To me it is a game changer because I don't need any 180s of Stars. Well done! The only thing is that it would be better to make all of them FO because PKOs don't work too well with small fields.

I also love that you are starting to offer deepstacks, regspeeds and turbos at :00 during peak time. It seems that nice schedule is staring to shape up.
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04-27-2018 , 05:41 PM
How I would make my schedule:

EET time zone

9-12 (starting time)

MORNING GRIND (you can call it that) or whatever

each hour 3 buy in levels (HIGEST, MIDDLE, LOW or MICRO), 2 types of tourneys each buy in level = 6 tourneys per hour.

GUARANTEES - It should not be priority to make them ENORMOUS, but of course they also cant be small so that nobody wants to play those.
My idea for highest buy ins (5k-12k), for middle buy ins (2k-7.5k), for low buy ins (500-3k)
of course depending on your budget n stuff and traffic.

BUY INS - I think in mornings buy in range would be 2.2-55$. 55$ is the highest and others could be
22, 33, 11, 5.5, 3.3, 2.2. you can also mix one or two 109$ tourneys seperatly in that 3h range as HIGH ROLLER or MORNING SPECIAL

GAME TYPES - put like 3x regular 8max, 3x bounty builders, 1x rebuy, 1x deepstack, 1x 6-max. together it will be 6x 8-max tourneys, 6x bounty,
2x rebuys, 2x deepstacks, 2x 6-max +2 tourneys you decide to add = 20 tourneys in MORNING (add take away what works more, what players want, etc.)

SPEED (DURATION) - like 1/4 turbo (~3h run time), others run time 4-7h (depending on number of players, buy in, prize pool), deepstacks for deepstack play
fans 15+h

*Of course some hours go less, some hours go more



12-17 (starting time)

AFTERNOON GRIND

each hour 3 buy in levels (HIGH, MIDDLE, LOW or MICRO), 2 types of tourneys each buy in level = 6 tourneys per hour.
Add some HR in the mix, but maybe not every hour

GUARANTEES - Guarantees here can get little bigger but again not necessary go ENORMOUS in this time slot.
HIGH BUY INS (10k-30k), HR TOURNEYS can go even bigger, MIDDLE BUY INS (7.5k-20k), LOW BUY INS (3k-10k)

*HIGH BUY IN MEANS 55$ nad 109$, MIDDLE 22-44, LOW 11-2.2, HR 215$+

BUY INS - range should be from $2.2-109 + additional HR tourneys 215$+. You can also add like 44$ buy in range

GAME TYPES - 25% 8-max, 25% bounty, 10% rebuys, 20% deepstacks, 20% 6-max

SPEED (DURATION) - like 1/4 turbos (~3-5h run time depending on 1st place size), others run time 6-8h (depending on number of players, buy in, prize pool,
1st place), deepstacks for deepstack play fans 15+h

*Of course some hours go less, some hours go more


17-21

MAIN EVENTS

each hour 3 buy in levels (HIGH, MIDDLE, LOW or MICRO), 2 types of tourneys each buy in level = 6 tourneys per hour. Add HR as much as necessary

GUARANTEES - Biggest guarantees of the day.
HIGH BUY INS (30k-60k), HR TOURNEYS can go even bigger (40k-150k), MIDDLE BUY INS (15k-35k), LOW BUY INS (5k-15k)

*HIGH BUY IN MEANS 55$ nad 109$, MIDDLE 22-44, LOW 11-2.2, HR 215$+

BUY INS - same as previously

GAME TYPES - 30% 8-max, 35% bounty, 20% rebuys, 5% deepstacks, 10% 6-max

*Its the peak hour, nobody wants to open deepstacks in the end of their sessions, nobody wants to open 6-max when table number is peaking
#Subjective

SPEED (DURATION) - like 1/4 turbos (~3-5h run time depending on 1st place size), others run time 7-10h (depending on number of players, buy in, prize pool,
1st place), deepstacks for deepstack play fans 15+h



21-9

NIGHT GRIND


.... same same



That is just my 1h fast version of this schedule thing. Dont want to spend more time on this because I will probably get **** on and nobody will
give a ***, but i think this is some basic stuff that needs to be and this would fit at least my needs (hope im not the only one)


Please let me know what you think peeps.


If you have nothing good to say, just dont say it, leave it to yourself. At least I TRIED

Thanks!
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