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03-24-2018 , 07:00 PM
x1000 on 14 day expiry. 7 is not enough!
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03-24-2018 , 08:21 PM
if a ticket expires people should get credited the buyin minus the rake , taking the entire amount is very scummy and there is no way you could possibly justify it .
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03-24-2018 , 09:39 PM
Hi guys,

Some changes for tomorrows tournaments.

We've changed the 4pm $109 bounty hunter and 7pm $215 bounty hunter special to be freezeouts and kept the guarantees (from 2 reentry)

ALL low tournaments are now 8 minutes (unless turbo) this means the very longest one should run for is around 6.5 hours, and most are significantly less.

ALL medium tournaments are now 10 minutes (unless turbo/smooth) this means the very longest ones should be 8 hours.

Thanks for sticking with us whilst the clocks were LONG, of course nobody, including myself wanted that, but we have the walls built very well now and guarantees are great.

Our strategy always was

1- Big guarantee
2- Hit gte and reduce clocks
3- Hit gte and reduce reentries
4- Increase gte

Regarding the tickets, its simple, we want our guarantees to stay up as others guarantees decrease. Knowing how many qualifiers/tickets we have allows us to offer competitive guarantees and move in position of offering the biggest daily tournaments all year round. It will be clear to everybody about the expiration of tickets. I think other sites have AUTO REG once you win the satalite, but we believe that isn't fair, we offer wide range of tournaments every single day for the target tournaments and after a week if you can't play you can choose any tournament in the week coming up. Of course it's not for everybody but for the vast majority of people playing the satalites we believe will play again within 14 days.
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03-24-2018 , 09:51 PM
https://www.partypoker.com/blog/part...th-700000.html

Some more details in pretty tables etc!
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03-24-2018 , 10:55 PM
the new schedule looks promising!
i think the main problem with tournament length was at the early stages and i am afraid, shortening the clocks at all levels might result in shallow late stage play, which most of us wouldn't like, so i hope you keep an eye on that

imo best would be increasing level times at final 1-3 tables like in some ps mtts
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03-25-2018 , 03:43 AM
Anybody got compensated from the issues last Thursday March 22 ? Why is this so hard.
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03-25-2018 , 06:34 AM
A bit disappointing that your only offering a single feeder satellite into each mega satellite and running them 2 hrs before each mega is due to start.

I don't see how this encourages as many rec's/players as possible to become involved and take part. especially all those players who are on different time zones to the server time and for whom the mega's start in the early hours of the morning. Those players are now required to get up even earlier in the morning in order to play a feeder to try and take part, which will no doubt put a number of them off from doing so.

IMO, you should have multiple feeder satellites leading into the mega's and run them at various times throughout the previous 12+ hrs.

For example: Mega starts at 6:00am (looking at it from my time). You could run 4 feeders in total, with one running every 4 hrs leading up to it starting at 4:00pm the previous day eg: 4pm, 8pm, 12am and then have 4am as your 'last chance feeder' just before the mega starts.

You could set it up so that, the first 3 feeders guarantee a smaller number of tickets to the mega (in order to lessen the chance of overlays - during what you consider to be your off-peak time) and then offer the most tickets in the last chance feeder (when you guys consider it to be your peak time).

I think putting something like this in place would cater to a larger portion of the player base (as well as encouraging players to play during those off-peak times) and encourage a higher participation overall.
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03-25-2018 , 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
Hi guys,

Some changes for tomorrows tournaments.

We've changed the 4pm $109 bounty hunter and 7pm $215 bounty hunter special to be freezeouts and kept the guarantees (from 2 reentry)

ALL low tournaments are now 8 minutes (unless turbo) this means the very longest one should run for is around 6.5 hours, and most are significantly less.

ALL medium tournaments are now 10 minutes (unless turbo/smooth) this means the very longest ones should be 8 hours.

Thanks for sticking with us whilst the clocks were LONG, of course nobody, including myself wanted that, but we have the walls built very well now and guarantees are great.

Our strategy always was

1- Big guarantee
2- Hit gte and reduce clocks
3- Hit gte and reduce reentries
4- Increase gte

Regarding the tickets, its simple, we want our guarantees to stay up as others guarantees decrease. Knowing how many qualifiers/tickets we have allows us to offer competitive guarantees and move in position of offering the biggest daily tournaments all year round. It will be clear to everybody about the expiration of tickets. I think other sites have AUTO REG once you win the satalite, but we believe that isn't fair, we offer wide range of tournaments every single day for the target tournaments and after a week if you can't play you can choose any tournament in the week coming up. Of course it's not for everybody but for the vast majority of people playing the satalites we believe will play again within 14 days.
Sounds perfect!

Thank you for that! Loooking forward to grind party now
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03-25-2018 , 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by clapclap
the new schedule looks promising!
i think the main problem with tournament length was at the early stages and i am afraid, shortening the clocks at all levels might result in shallow late stage play, which most of us wouldn't like, so i hope you keep an eye on that

imo best would be increasing level times at final 1-3 tables like in some ps mtts
Goood idea! Longer levels in last 2 or 3 tables would be good.

Also to meet guarantees make late reg period with longer blind levels and longer reg period and after that drop the level time till the last 2 or 3 tables. What you think?
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03-25-2018 , 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by xLAGERTHAx
A bit disappointing that your only offering a single feeder satellite into each mega satellite and running them 2 hrs before each mega is due to start.

I don't see how this encourages as many rec's/players as possible to become involved and take part. especially all those players who are on different time zones to the server time and for whom the mega's start in the early hours of the morning. Those players are now required to get up even earlier in the morning in order to play a feeder to try and take part, which will no doubt put a number of them off from doing so.

IMO, you should have multiple feeder satellites leading into the mega's and run them at various times throughout the previous 12+ hrs.

For example: Mega starts at 6:00am (looking at it from my time). You could run 4 feeders in total, with one running every 4 hrs leading up to it starting at 4:00pm the previous day eg: 4pm, 8pm, 12am and then have 4am as your 'last chance feeder' just before the mega starts.

You could set it up so that, the first 3 feeders guarantee a smaller number of tickets to the mega (in order to lessen the chance of overlays - during what you consider to be your off-peak time) and then offer the most tickets in the last chance feeder (when you guys consider it to be your peak time).

I think putting something like this in place would cater to a larger portion of the player base (as well as encouraging players to play during those off-peak times) and encourage a higher participation overall.
I agree that mega satellites should start earlier, because now its in the peak of all majors and there is no space for some satellite, but if it starts earlier I can start with that and see where it goes. But of course I get the points also to meet the big guarantees in satellites.
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03-25-2018 , 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
ALL low tournaments are now 8 minutes (unless turbo) this means the very longest one should run for is around 6.5 hours, and most are significantly less.
Literally the first tournament I opened (last night's 5.50$) to check what kind of field size produces what kind of length lasted 8 hours for 1383 people, so I have no idea where your max 6.5 hours figure comes from. That seems fine, maybe 8 minutes is spot on. But provide accurate data please.

EDIT- opened a bunch more to see, they all last significantly more than 6.5 hours but less than 9, that seems good. You can consider 10/12min final tables or something for smaller fields that finish rather quickly if you want to give a bit more play.

EDIT 2- It's a bit silly that at 21:00 CET a 22$ is labeled [fast] when the 5$ that starts at the same time with literally the exact same structure has no such label.

Last edited by Soepgroente; 03-25-2018 at 08:30 AM.
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03-25-2018 , 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by CJAcesRule
Anybody got compensated from the issues last Thursday March 22 ? Why is this so hard.
Its done
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03-25-2018 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
Hi guys,

Some changes for tomorrows tournaments.

We've changed the 4pm $109 bounty hunter and 7pm $215 bounty hunter special to be freezeouts and kept the guarantees (from 2 reentry)

ALL low tournaments are now 8 minutes (unless turbo) this means the very longest one should run for is around 6.5 hours, and most are significantly less.

ALL medium tournaments are now 10 minutes (unless turbo/smooth) this means the very longest ones should be 8 hours.

Thanks for sticking with us whilst the clocks were LONG, of course nobody, including myself wanted that, but we have the walls built very well now and guarantees are great.

Our strategy always was

1- Big guarantee
2- Hit gte and reduce clocks
3- Hit gte and reduce reentries
4- Increase gte

Regarding the tickets, its simple, we want our guarantees to stay up as others guarantees decrease. Knowing how many qualifiers/tickets we have allows us to offer competitive guarantees and move in position of offering the biggest daily tournaments all year round. It will be clear to everybody about the expiration of tickets. I think other sites have AUTO REG once you win the satalite, but we believe that isn't fair, we offer wide range of tournaments every single day for the target tournaments and after a week if you can't play you can choose any tournament in the week coming up. Of course it's not for everybody but for the vast majority of people playing the satalites we believe will play again within 14 days.
In addition to this Micro tournaments now = 6 mins.

Lets hope we can hit with these new clocks today
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03-25-2018 , 04:22 PM
6 mins is a turbo.

As somebody opposed to the 12 min levels at SS, theres middle ground between 12 min and 6 min levels (it's 8 or 8-10). Always polarised at Party.
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03-25-2018 , 06:26 PM
Thanks for trying some new satellites, and sortof giving us a bit longer to use the tickets. But -

Could you start the mega satellites an hour earlier please? I notice they're all still running as I post this, but most of the target audience need to be up early Monday mornings Though I guess the sats would take even longer as more people find out about them...
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03-25-2018 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
In addition to this Micro tournaments now = 6 mins.

Lets hope we can hit with these new clocks today
All but one $1-$2 tournament overlaid with 6 minute lvl during peak hours.
Almost all $5-$11 tournaments with 8 minute levels crushed their gtds.

Probably 6 minute lvl tournaments will perform worse than 8 minute tournaments (as usual). 8 minute lvl is very reasonable for micros.
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03-26-2018 , 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Bocmanis
All but one $1-$2 tournament overlaid with 6 minute lvl during peak hours.
Almost all $5-$11 tournaments with 8 minute levels crushed their gtds.

Probably 6 minute lvl tournaments will perform worse than 8 minute tournaments (as usual). 8 minute lvl is very reasonable for micros.
I dont see the logic behind the bait and switch. Build the guarentees then suddenly gut the game. I guess the hope is that recs won't notice, or continue out of habit.

My ability to not reg is as nimble and fickle as Party's abilty to 180 the game format.
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03-26-2018 , 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by bearer
6 mins is a turbo.

As somebody opposed to the 12 min levels at SS, theres middle ground between 12 min and 6 min levels (it's 8 or 8-10). Always polarised at Party.
+1

How a 'daily major' (at any buy-in level) can be set at 6 min turbo blinds (unless it happens to be a turbo themed day) is beyond me.

It's always the same with PP, one step forward and then a week later, 2 steps backwards again.
Just when things we're looking up with the SS schedule, PP make a change like this, turn everything into a turbo flip-fest and put players (such as myself) off from playing.

Just because some players have a smaller BR than others, doesn't mean those players wouldn't like the same opportunities to play some decent poker (with decent blind structures) that are being afforded to those players with bigger BR's.

IMO. micro MTT blind levels should be set at exactly the same as low MTT levels @ 8mins.
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03-26-2018 , 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by bearer
6 mins is a turbo.

As somebody opposed to the 12 min levels at SS, theres middle ground between 12 min and 6 min levels (it's 8 or 8-10). Always polarised at Party.
1.Yep, as expected the 180 U-turn in a month.... from horribly long to turbo.....
8min was the compromise indeed. but if i have to choose, i take 6min instead of 12 for sure

2. Can someone explain me the point on having sats with 60% overlay ???
i don t get the strategy for PP. how can this be sustainable ?
Yesterday, Few 33$to215$ reached barely 400 players ( 12000$) you had 100tickets, GTD= 21500$.....
Loss = 9500$ (more actually cause the players came from centroll 0.5to33$ also overlayed a lot)

3. Feeders to megasat met GTD or nearly, as a result, took 3hrs to get ITM most of them
Then it s a second sat that u have to play (auto reg). a good 2hrs or more

Don t you think it s a bit long to have a 5hr/6hr sat session ? reach the target event late, with 50bb and drenched and play against fresh high stakes reg ? mmmm to improve.... nake them start earlier
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03-26-2018 , 04:22 AM
The new Sunday sats were great. Nice to be able to play in a satellite that isn't a 6-max turbo.

Ps : Please stop constantly crying about overlay (aka free money), it's embarrassing. Instead, play the tournament and enjoy the extra value while you can. Aggressive gts are a good thing!!!

Last edited by Gooner933; 03-26-2018 at 04:30 AM.
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03-26-2018 , 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Gooner933
Please stop constantly crying about overlay (aka free money), it's embarrassing. Instead, play the tournament and enjoy the extra value while you can. Aggressive gts are a good thing!!!
THIS ONE^^^^

Clocks are awesome right now, well done!
Very good work on the new satellites, hope they work well so you can add more of these!
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03-26-2018 , 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Gooner933
The new Sunday sats were great. Nice to be able to play in a satellite that isn't a 6-max turbo.
+1

I played the $11 - 250 x $109 Mega, from start right through to finish (won a ticket).

It took approx 4 1/2hrs to complete, which I was ok with. The structure was good and the standard of play was of a high standard (at least on the tables I was at), which probably isn't too surprising - especially considering the calibre of players entered eg: Ton of Reg's, along with Team Partypoker pro's included.

Overall, I enjoyed it and will look to play more Mega's moving forward.
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03-26-2018 , 06:10 AM
It's also pretty stupid.

Listen @OurSurveySays: Midstakes+ players care for their hourly (!) rather than the amount of play they get for their $ much more than the micros players. Vice versa, micro players don't mind playing for longer for the couple bucks they put in (not 12 hours tho). So you're doing it completely backwards.

Tournaments naturally get longer when more players join, that's just a fact of life. If people don't want to play 8 hours, they shouldn't play tournaments with 5000 players. People who do are stupid. Never, ever cater to stupid.

Tiered blind levels are a GOOD thing, why is it you're not doing the common sense thing even after weeks of people telling you here what's common sense?

The reason you keep changing things up is because you react to the last thing that is said here. Some want long play times, some want short.. so you keep switching back and forth. Only sith deal in absolutes, you are not a Sith. You can mix it up! You know that, right? Not EVERY micro has to be a 6-minute, not EVERY $215 has to be a 12+ minute. That's why you call some things fast and some things Series. Is that really such a hard concept to grab?


Here is my suggestion, and it's not very innovate: Create 5-6 categories: Superturbo, incremental, turbo, regular, Series and slow. Find a schedule that works for each, THEN ****ING STICK TO IT! You have enough suggestions here.

Superturbo: 4 mins
Turbo: 6 mins
Incremental: 6-8-10
Regular: 8
Slow: 10
Series: 12

Mix it up in the schedule, ADD more tournaments. They don't cannibalize each other because different people reg different things.

How is that hard?
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03-26-2018 , 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Gooner933
The new Sunday sats were great. Nice to be able to play in a satellite that isn't a 6-max turbo.

Ps : Please stop constantly crying about overlay (aka free money), it's embarrassing. Instead, play the tournament and enjoy the extra value while you can. Aggressive gts are a good thing!!!
What is embarassing is the way you think indeed.....
do you think they will keep on loosing money everyday ? so we are up for another sat format very soon.
Just look the clocks.... almost everyday it s changing like in a faking laboratory of amateurs...sad
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03-26-2018 , 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 8gameisfun
It's also pretty stupid.

Listen @OurSurveySays: Midstakes+ players care for their hourly (!) rather than the amount of play they get for their $ much more than the micros players. Vice versa, micro players don't mind playing for longer for the couple bucks they put in (not 12 hours tho). So you're doing it completely backwards.

Tournaments naturally get longer when more players join, that's just a fact of life. If people don't want to play 8 hours, they shouldn't play tournaments with 5000 players. People who do are stupid. Never, ever cater to stupid.

Tiered blind levels are a GOOD thing, why is it you're not doing the common sense thing even after weeks of people telling you here what's common sense?

The reason you keep changing things up is because you react to the last thing that is said here. Some want long play times, some want short.. so you keep switching back and forth. Only sith deal in absolutes, you are not a Sith. You can mix it up! You know that, right? Not EVERY micro has to be a 6-minute, not EVERY $215 has to be a 12+ minute. That's why you call some things fast and some things Series. Is that really such a hard concept to grab?


Here is my suggestion, and it's not very innovate: Create 5-6 categories: Superturbo, incremental, turbo, regular, Series and slow. Find a schedule that works for each, THEN ****ING STICK TO IT! You have enough suggestions here.

Superturbo: 4 mins
Turbo: 6 mins
Incremental: 6-8-10
Regular: 8
Slow: 10
Series: 12

Mix it up in the schedule, ADD more tournaments. They don't cannibalize each other because different people reg different things.

How is that hard?
Yes, completely makes sense, it s obvious....why is it so hard, because THEY HAVE NO CLUE !
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