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03-23-2018 , 03:02 AM
Cool satellites! too bad they are implemented on Sunday and not today, so your wording in saying "We have added the following" is not completely correct
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03-23-2018 , 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
Hey,

Firstly, we changed some more clocks, the Main Event went from 14 to 12 minute clock and hit.

The BIG news.

We have decided to add something that we believe will change higher stakes games forever whilst giving more people a chance of big money from small amounts of money.

We have added the following:

Sundays:

$11 buy in,250 $109 tickets
$22 buy in, 250 x $215 tickets
$55 buy in, 100 x $530 tickets
$109 buy in, 50 x $1050 tickets

EVERY DAY:

$11 buy in, 100 x $109 tickets
$22 buy in, 100 x $215 tickets
$55 buy in, 50 x $530 tickets
$109 buy in, 25 x $1050 tickets

Obviously these guarantees are gigantic and there will be a lot of value. We could have went for 1/5 and doubled the buy in, but we don't want people who play the target event to play the sats, it should be bringing NEW players into each game. It is currently adding around 25% to the prizepools, we expect all of our bigger prizepools to grow even more.

We will add the SMOOTH structure, this means blinds go up very small (example, 800/1600, 875/1750, 950/1900) this means that in the sats people don't get completely demolished from the blinds going up.

All tickets will have a 7 day expiry, if you aren't looking to play for the next 7 days then you should wait later to play these sats.

Each satellite will have feeder satellites, running before to give everybody a chance.

We believe this will be a game changer for us, prizepools will grow, there will be a lot of stories of players satelliting in for small amounts of money and winning huge amounts. We saw last week in the Irish open a player satelliting in for $0.01 and winning over $100k, we love this.
Noice update. Thank you for working to get this done for us (and for Party).

I am concerned with the 7 day expiration. I would prefer to see this moved out to 14 days as this would accomplish roughly the same, but offer the players a little flexibility because "stuff" happens.

If the 14 day expiration isn't possible, could players pre-reg for events (particularly live event or Online MILLIONS) satellites outside the 7 day window? Maybe set it up so if player unregisters after 7 (or 14) days they forfeit the satellite ticket in the same way it would expire in a player's account.

Just some additional considerations to provide a tad more flexibility to recs / semi-recs.

Thanks again for you work and considerations.
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03-23-2018 , 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
Hey,

Firstly, we changed some more clocks, the Main Event went from 14 to 12 minute clock and hit.

The BIG news.

We have decided to add something that we believe will change higher stakes games forever whilst giving more people a chance of big money from small amounts of money.

We have added the following:

Sundays:

$11 buy in,250 $109 tickets
$22 buy in, 250 x $215 tickets
$55 buy in, 100 x $530 tickets
$109 buy in, 50 x $1050 tickets

EVERY DAY:

$11 buy in, 100 x $109 tickets
$22 buy in, 100 x $215 tickets
$55 buy in, 50 x $530 tickets
$109 buy in, 25 x $1050 tickets

Obviously these guarantees are gigantic and there will be a lot of value. We could have went for 1/5 and doubled the buy in, but we don't want people who play the target event to play the sats, it should be bringing NEW players into each game. It is currently adding around 25% to the prizepools, we expect all of our bigger prizepools to grow even more.

We will add the SMOOTH structure, this means blinds go up very small (example, 800/1600, 875/1750, 950/1900) this means that in the sats people don't get completely demolished from the blinds going up.

All tickets will have a 7 day expiry, if you aren't looking to play for the next 7 days then you should wait later to play these sats.

Each satellite will have feeder satellites, running before to give everybody a chance.

We believe this will be a game changer for us, prizepools will grow, there will be a lot of stories of players satelliting in for small amounts of money and winning huge amounts. We saw last week in the Irish open a player satelliting in for $0.01 and winning over $100k, we love this.
Can you use these tickets for MILLIONS satellites?
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03-23-2018 , 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
Ola amigo

4pm $22 bounty hunter - 8 hours
5pm $55 warm up - 7 hours
6pm $22 Daily Major - running 6 hiours 30 and 13 left (estimated 8 hours)
7pm $55 main event - running 5 hours 30, 20 left (estimated 8 hours)

On Sunday theres only one in the lobby, but the $55 2197 runner tournament at 7pm finished in 9 hours.

In general we're decreasing clocks all of the time.

Even the 3pm 14 minute slow tournament (its important we offer at least one of these to customers) started at 3pm and finished at midnight.

We listening to the feedback and reducing the clocks at much as possible, but most of them are very decent I think atm.

yes, there is some as you said faster ones, 8h is fine, but for someone whos bottom buy in 55$ or even 109 it would be good to have like mix of deeper ones and faster ones. As for now there is faster one with 8 min lvls only late in evening.

Also had an idea that Party could make like same long late reg period as now and same length of lvls as now for late reg and for example if there is 16 or 14 min lvls for late reg after late reg it could go to 12 min lvls and 10 min lvls or 14 and 12, something like that. That could also be a solution.

And I was more thinking about torunament like kick off or warm up on Sunday for 215. Starts at 15 and 17 EET and ends after like 12+h, dont remember how much, but really long.

But overall of course all is going in the right direction and just few improvements all the time here and there and will be good to go. Already playing more on party than stars.
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03-23-2018 , 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by sitoutguy
yes, there is some as you said faster ones, 8h is fine, but for someone whos bottom buy in 55$ or even 109 it would be good to have like mix of deeper ones and faster ones. As for now there is faster one with 8 min lvls only late in evening.

Also had an idea that Party could make like same long late reg period as now and same length of lvls as now for late reg and for example if there is 16 or 14 min lvls for late reg after late reg it could go to 12 min lvls and 10 min lvls or 14 and 12, something like that. That could also be a solution.

And I was more thinking about torunament like kick off or warm up on Sunday for 215. Starts at 15 and 17 EET and ends after like 12+h, dont remember how much, but really long.

But overall of course all is going in the right direction and just few improvements all the time here and there and will be good to go. Already playing more on party than stars.

Checked the last weeks Sunday schedule and ydays. had some misscalculations. Not so many super long ones, but still ydays 15 EET start 55$ run like 10h 30 min. But I guess the the Sunday before was longer structures. I guess best way is mix of longer ones and faster ones, but 55$ tourney is in buy in range where people dont want to play 10h for 3k up top I think. If its like 10+k up top its fine then, but for 3k, i dont know. For me its like I better choose other one then.

Just my thought
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03-23-2018 , 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by daChimp
Noice update. Thank you for working to get this done for us (and for Party).

I am concerned with the 7 day expiration. I would prefer to see this moved out to 14 days as this would accomplish roughly the same, but offer the players a little flexibility because "stuff" happens.

If the 14 day expiration isn't possible, could players pre-reg for events (particularly live event or Online MILLIONS) satellites outside the 7 day window? Maybe set it up so if player unregisters after 7 (or 14) days they forfeit the satellite ticket in the same way it would expire in a player's account.

Just some additional considerations to provide a tad more flexibility to recs / semi-recs.

Thanks again for you work and considerations.
Yeah let's stop with the whole "we want players to register for the target event" shtick - it's purely about removing liabilities off the balance sheet. Same reason is behind players losing out on VIP point after the transfer to the new rakeback system. Standard expiry date on a 10 euro giftcard is 365 days - 7 days expiry for a $1k ticket is egregious.
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03-23-2018 , 07:46 AM
I agree that 14 days is much better. You're gonna run into PR problems with fishe complaining that their tickets vanished super quickly.

I also like the idea of being able to reg future events (Series especially) past 14 days but you can't unreg from them anymore after those 14 days.

Other than that, this is huge news. This will draw a lot of midstakes+ players to Party.
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03-23-2018 , 03:43 PM
New tournament schedule and now the satelites look great! Great job!

Little bit confused about the whole satelite thing though. For example if I play 11$ daily satelite and I win 109$ ticket, can I now register to any 109 MTT or I now must play 109$ satelite to the "target event"? In prizes it simply shows "1-250 109$ MTT ticket" but as I understand there is some kind of target event.
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03-23-2018 , 04:14 PM
I think it’s for any 109 as party has been trying to make every timbey on the site sth worth playing. I think naturally players will gravitate towards Sunday but any other should work just as well
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03-23-2018 , 04:24 PM
I can't understand why you change most of the schedule due to theme of the day.
I think you should have a standard schedule and add theme days tourneys.
Schedule still pretty poor imo.Definetely not super wow,fantastic,exciting etc etc that we have promised.Sunday pretty good tho.

@bwinrep software update??
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03-23-2018 , 04:32 PM
7 day expiry is obv pretty bad but these satellites are awesome. Good for everyone, most of all the mtt ecosystem in general. Nice one. Always aggressive with gts - great to see, especially whilst Stars continues to sink their ship.
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03-23-2018 , 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays

Each satellite will have feeder satellites, running before to give everybody a chance.
The first Mega satellite is less than 48 hrs away from starting. When will the feeder satellites to the 'Megas' be in the schedule so, that those with smaller BR's can attempt to get into them?
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03-23-2018 , 08:31 PM
How do I change my password; there doesn't seem to be this option in the client for windows 7?
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03-23-2018 , 11:33 PM
Hey everybody,

Good news re the satellites, I spoke with management and all you will have to do is REGISTER within 7 days. i.e you play on Saturday and win, on Thursday your wife tells you its date night this weekend and NO POKER. You can simply go to the lobby on Thursday and register any of the games which are in the lobby (we will always keep 7 days worth of games in the lobby) and thus really the expiration date is essentially 14 days for you to play.
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03-23-2018 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
Hey everybody,

Good news re the satellites, I spoke with management and all you will have to do is REGISTER within 7 days. i.e you play on Saturday and win, on Thursday your wife tells you its date night this weekend and NO POKER. You can simply go to the lobby on Thursday and register any of the games which are in the lobby (we will always keep 7 days worth of games in the lobby) and thus really the expiration date is essentially 14 days for you to play.
There's two problems with this outcome:

1) One have to play tournament from the start.

2) If tournament cancels, for any reason (not enough players or if Party servers collapse etc.) player loses his ticket.
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03-24-2018 , 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
There's two problems with this outcome:

1) One have to play tournament from the start.

2) If tournament cancels, for any reason (not enough players or if Party servers collapse etc.) player loses his ticket.
I mean people will always find some kind of problem I'm sure, but yes if you don't find time to play for 7 days after you win the seat you will have to play from the start in the tournament. For most players qualifying for an event they never get to play I'm sure they would want to be in from the start anyway.

There should/is always enough players in the tournaments the qualifiers will choose to play, if servers crash I personally will ensure every ticket is either reinstated or refunded if still in the tournament.
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03-24-2018 , 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
I mean people will always find some kind of problem I'm sure, but yes if you don't find time to play for 7 days after you win the seat you will have to play from the start in the tournament. For most players qualifying for an event they never get to play I'm sure they would want to be in from the start anyway.

There should/is always enough players in the tournaments the qualifiers will choose to play, if servers crash I personally will ensure every ticket is either reinstated or refunded if still in the tournament.
I think its obv perfectly fine for the tickets to have 7 day expiry, will be a huge boost for all the weekly majors. However, imo its very very important for this info to be clearly stated somewhere in lobby so everyone participating is aware of this 7 day expiry window. I think it would be a real shame if tons of recreational players unknowingly have their tickets expire on them
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03-24-2018 , 12:56 AM
Hello. I made a pretty detailed post how to improve the software.
Since im playing most of my volume on Party these days. It would be nice if the software improved a bit. Like I said; We got asked 2 years ago what should be improved in the software. We so far got a new color of paint; which is nice; but was far from the most important issue.

I unfortunatly didn't get a response. Is improving the software still on the schedule?
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03-24-2018 , 01:59 AM
About sats i assume that this will be/are standard sats( when i check in lobby it looks like they are standard sats structures )and sat will end when x players left not after y lvl played right??

So to folow up to this question: is this going to be applied to feeders for live stops/online millions 109$ feeder => 1k$ sat???
If yes when?? if no why??

P.S. On mob and havent ch feeders structures for live stops so sorry if this is alredy implement for feeders for live stops too and questions are irrelevant

Thumbs up btw
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03-24-2018 , 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
Hey everybody,

Good news re the satellites, I spoke with management and all you will have to do is REGISTER within 7 days. i.e you play on Saturday and win, on Thursday your wife tells you its date night this weekend and NO POKER. You can simply go to the lobby on Thursday and register any of the games which are in the lobby (we will always keep 7 days worth of games in the lobby) and thus really the expiration date is essentially 14 days for you to play.
This is a reasonable compromise. Your analogy is spot on... many players especially recs can't guarantee on Tuesday what they are going to be doing Sunday.
Farseer's point about playing from the start as being a gripe is pretty weak.

As others have said the reminder about tickets having an expiry needs to be extremely prominent.
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03-24-2018 , 11:25 AM
Awesome changes, but I highly agree about 7 days expire date is very short. It has to be at least two weeks without any tricks that in pads example. People often go for 7-14d holidays and that especially true during holiday seasons [summer, Christmas etc.]

I would like to hear what is the idea behind this 7-day expiry date, what's the benefit for the site? Yea obv money goes back to your pocket if I forget to use my ticket in time, but from the long-term perspective and getting players to your site [which Party is doing really well so far] it just doesn't make sense. More flexibility for players gives more options for players, therefore, the loyalty and the trust for the site grows, which is resulting in returning customer.

Myself, after having 80% PS Volume for years, now playing about 60% volume on Party. Keep up the great work!
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03-24-2018 , 12:23 PM
I think the premise is that the longer the expiry date the more regs are going to be grinding these days and the fewer tickets go directly into the various timbeys throughout the week which kinda makes sense. Sats should mostly be for recs to get to play mtts they otherwise wouldn’t and shouldn’t be catered to regs mass grinding them and stalling every hand etc. I think communicating the way the tickets work and giving people some conversion option last minute in case something turns up would be ideal. Basically to have a high turnover rate of tickets on the weekly without having people that have a family issue come up having to pay for that problem.
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03-24-2018 , 01:02 PM
I'm still waiting for the feeder satellites into the mega satellites to show up in the client.

With only 24 hrs before the first mega satellite takes place, I would've thought the feeders would've been running well before now, especially if PP want to encourage as many rec's/players as possible and to give everyone a chance at playing in the mega's.

I think it's also important for PP to remember that a number of players are on different time zones (peak and off-peak are the complete opposite to the norm for some ) and therefore a lot of those players would like to play there way into a mega in advance of it taking place (when it's more convenient for them) and not just in the last couple of hours prior to the mega taking place.
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03-24-2018 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
I mean people will always find some kind of problem I'm sure
I don't think anyone will find a problem if you never let tickets expire or let them expire after 365 days.
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03-24-2018 , 06:00 PM
Anything to be said for

a) Moving the sats to earlier in the day? As I see it a majority of them start after 20:00 UK time. Is this not late in the evening for a decent subset of players? From a personal POV, it doesn't suit that they are this late in the evening

b) No new super sats to $11 tournaments? Starting at $11 essentially rules me out. Again, personal POV.

Also re: expiration - 14 days without any hidden permutations is a must imo. Why make it 7 and then offer the opportunity to elongate by a week and not just make it 14 days. I think that would satisfy the masses!
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