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We have put the new structures on most of the rest of the tournaments. Some of the Sunday tournaments will have the old structure for this weekend, but will be updated for next week.

Freezeouts NL tournaments (non sattys) should all have at least 5K starting stacks minimum now - if you see any that don't, please let me know! Old payout structures have been updated too on a few of the remaining tournaments.

Please report back with feedback on both!

I'll get to this tomorrow. Sorry for the delay

Thanks both for the feedback on this. 47 Daily Lower Stakes (€1.10 - €11) Freezeouts and Booster tournaments added. 2 per hour @ :15 & :45. Mix of 6 min levels and 10 min levels, as well as 6 and 8 handed:

All times UK



A Booster tournament allows an additional stack for a discount. Boost your stack anytime you are at or below the starting stack, before registration closes!

Added, 1 on the hour as requested. I changed the 75c to an 11c, as we still to give out 11c tickets in freerolls soon



€2,000 The Deep Fifty-Five replaces the Gigabyte. 10K SS, €55 FO, with 10 mins levels and 90 mins late reg. Will run each weekday from this Monday. It is currently open for registration. Will see how it does and adjust the guarantee (hopefully upwards!)

New tournaments and updated prize pools can be found here: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...54&postcount=2

15 tournaments have received increased guarantees, including some PLO & PLO8 events. See the full list here: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...54&postcount=2

Increase for the Jungle Jim starts today, with the rest from the next time they run!

The Bullseye is now €1,500 guaranteed and also has increased starting/rebuy stacks to 5K & addon to 10K

The tournaments are worse now, for example 22R King tusk wih big bling 500 for add on?
Why u decided to change the structures way worse?

Some of the games are being affected for sure, the King Tusk and The Lost Vegas had a much better overall structure Peter.

I do think some of the games would benefit from slight tweaks especially 20bi + games rbs and freezeouts. I appreciate the end game but we have got to get to level 20 which in most games is now at a faster pace then we were used to.

End game looks great - think u now need to look at the end of rebuys and the freezeout middle game level 10-20+

Great work so far, and I hope we get that sweet spot everyone is happy with

Thanks for the feedback about the new structures. When MPN reps started to post on 2+2 (less than 2 weeks ago), one of the biggest comments was the MTT blinds structure, how it was outdated and how there should antes from the start.

Since then, we have introduced 2 new structures, after taking feedback from here, and put them on most NLH tournaments on the site. This was only a few days ago. Now that these new structures are live we are getting 2 lots of comments:

1) Antes finally from the start, new structures are great!
2) This plays too fast now, around levels 10-20

Tweaking the structures with feedback directly from the players is very helpful. However, we will not be able to make every player happy, this is just natural. Some players have said that they will play more due to the new structures, since they are more exciting, others have said they will have to play less, due to them being too fast.

I do agree that the play around the end of late reg for most rebuy tournaments is a bit fast, here is a proposed change:



The rest of the tournament would play out as it does now, which should have much more play than previously

I do not believe that anyone has mentioned the blinds structure for freezeouts, so unsure if they need to be changed.

Please give comments on the above, and I'll look to introduce it for some tournaments on Monday/Tuesday

Your efforts on improving the site are appreciated, i am just wondering though if we need all these small booster and micro tournaments. I know i said there are not many options for lower stakes, but i think sites nowadays are going for an approach of less tournaments with a bit more focus on specific ones.

I personally think it is better to have less low stakes tournaments but with bigger gtd's. Making each tournament unique with a different format/buy in i think is a better way to go.

Agreed, let's face reality MPN is a great site, but atm has no competition for bigger sites. So having a ton of super small mtt's is not working well because people skip these small mtt's for bigger action elsewhere. If you would have less mtt's with bigger prize pools then it because worthy for regs to play in it and also it's more attractive for recreational players.

Agree with Jambo and ymechlia!

Good job Peter!!

Looks Much better for both - super job

I also tend to agree with the above. GTD sizes play a big part in what catches a players eye and entices them to play. I think having a few low stakes MTT's with decent GTD's each day would be better and prove to be more successful in the long run, than having a lot of low stakes MTT's with minimal GTD's.

Currently your biggest GTD for a €3.30 F/O is €100 and for a €5.50 F/O is €150 (with others having smaller GTD's than those) and that just isn't enticing enough to get larger numbers of players to want to play them IMO.

I know you don't see something like a €3.30 F/O with a €500 GTD (for example) being feasible on the site currently and i'm guessing that's down to player numbers but, IMO, it will never be feasible and the player numbers won't increase, unless you actually offer something exactly like this in the first place to bring those players in.

+1 for less but bigger gtd's micro tournaments.

i don't Play at the Moment (can't remember the last time i played there...) mpn, BUT i have an account!maybe i come back very soon.

nice to hear/see the News...new Software, present at 2+2....it Looks/sounds great!

question: is it true there's no Player chat anymore with the new Software? if so, this would be a big - for me! this is 1 reason why i don't Play unibet!

Pretty much every NL tournament now has the most recently changed structures (image above), which in summary:

1) has antes from the start
2) should allow more play than the previous iteration around the end of late reg/rebuy period
3) has more play in the later stages of tournaments

If you see a tournament that should have the newest structure but doesn't, please let me know

Also note that the:

€110 €5,000 Big Top
€110 €7,500 Mount Olympus
€215 €7,500 High Society

All have the newest structure and are all now 10,000 starting chips (vs 5,000 previously)


Of the ~125 of these new tournaments that could have run from around 9:00 UK time on Friday until Midnight UK time on the 12th, just under 50% of them have run. 1/3 Boosters, and 2/3 FOs. Which I do not think is bad, considering a decent % of them are in the middle of the night. Over 2,000 players in total (not unique) and over €6K in prizes. Not huge numbers, but its giving the lower stakes, non-rebuy, players more choices to play than previously. I do not see how removing them could beneficial, but am very open to responses on this.

Changing some of them around is definitely possible, suggestions please. Of course I would like to raise guarantees, however there is also no point in needlessly writing off €€€ to overlay.

Seeing as how I misinterpreted the last set of suggestions regarding there not being enough FOs on the network, please give as much detail as possible with regards to what type of FOs you want to see (times, buy-in, guarantees, maybe days of the week too). Unfortunately we do not have the ability to offer a true re-entry on the network currently. I can set it as a 1 normal rebuy, or 1 booster (pretty much a rebuy for a discount) - both these options do allow a player to immediately rebuy, or also to rebuy anytime they are at or below the starting stack.

Our current maximum guarantee for a €3.30 FO is indeed €100, however the maximum €5.50 FO is the €350 Kilobyte at 20:00 UK time each day. This will probably go up to €400 this week, depending on numbers, and hopefully continue to increase

Correct, there is no chat on the new Prima client. However the old client is still absolutely working, and has chat. You can give specific (non MTT) feedback here: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...hread-1718857/


Sorry I forgot to address this previously (its currently not possible). You can always suggest that in the feedback thread linked above, and/or in the new Prima client feedback area

Peter, i dont hink its a good idea to put the new The Deep Fifty-Five at the same hour of megabyte and with a so low guaranteed. Players will disperse and probably they will play only one. Why you dont move megabyte 1 hour later and increase, for now to test, the GTD of the The Deep?

What type of guarantee were you looking for? Not really a huge fan of moving 2 (would have to move the Kilobyte also) established tournaments to a new time slot

I can see your concerns, but I thinking leaving everything as is and seeing how it goes might be a good call

Satellites have always been terrible on MPN. The Battle of Malta megasat yesterday which got I think 26 packages just goes to show what an effective satellite system can do if they are ran all week up to the event on Sunday.

I've played on MPN for many years and honestly on Sundays now I often feel like I have no reason to open your client. There is no signature tournament, no major. When your tournaments are smaller than most on Sunday, have rake on the higher side and have software that's among the worst, it is natural that I'll look elsewhere to fill my screen with bigger tournaments ran on better software - (auto timebank one time please!)

If you have a Sunday 'Major' - not sure of the buy in - 50 or 100? that has had must play satellites all week and a bigger prizepool - then that gives me a reason to log in - when the client is open I might fire other things.

As of now your schedule is slowly but surely just withering up and it isn't just seasonal because of the World Cup/Summer because it has been happening for a long time now - probably ever since you started raking rebuys.

I used to play your entire schedule every day but now sometimes I don't even play one tournament on MPN in a week. I have no particular love for any other site so please win me back! Do something unique, make your site stand out - I will be playing your series and I love the MPN Live tour, but I mean outside of that. Give me a reason to open your client!

I understand your point, but don't you think the demand is gonna be low for 2 similar tournaments at the same hour with +/- same buyin...I was thinking in or move the The deep 30 minutes before, or fusion mega an The deeper...Call it the New Megabyte, same structure of the Deeper, buyin between 33 and 55 big guaranteed and it will be a sucess for sure!

One idea to attract more players , could be an special torunament every day. For example, Monday a 22 Freezeout, Tuesday a bounty 55€, Wednesday a Turbo,etc..

Hello the 11r Lucky firecracker never run, i think it should be changed to a 5r

The new structure of the rebuys tournaments will kill the field. It's a rebuy fest and we pay 10% rake on them. Today i increase more than 60% of my average buyin in this new structures. For a grinder that plays in your site, at the end of the month it's 400/600€ that we pay. At the long run it's unsustainable, we hardly beat the fees.
Another thing, the recreative players will give up a lot before the addon!
It's just my opinion but in this current situation it's very dificult to cntinue playing there. And i play every day at your site since 3 years!

what about putting some extra levels before the addon?
20/40 30/60 like the old one

Or increase stack sizes like the Ipoker 20rebuy - 10k / 10k re buy / 20k addon otherwise its like a rebuy fest for the rebuy period.

Any of these are great. But it needs to be changed. Because it's a rebuy fest and only the regs are rebuying until the addon! This is very important for the ecosystem!

yea i like the idea bigger stack for rebuy and add ons to much of a rebuy fest in the last level of add on.