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preflop agression against loose players, awkward stack depth preflop agression against loose players, awkward stack depth

07-31-2022 , 10:02 AM
Hi guys,
3 similar hands played in only 2 orbits.
It's not the bubble yet, but I don't remember if we were far from it (is there a way to know that in PT4 when reviewing the tourney ?).

Reads : both villains are bad loose passive players (it's the same 2 opponents in the 3 hands)
One is 52/5/0 over 20 hands, and the other one 62/19/14 over 20 hands (and saw him make fishy sizings such as minraise BvB)
Small sample, but the profile is pretty clear.
They'd limp call an iso-raise a lot. Not sure how wide they call a shove though.

V on my left is tagged as weak

Hand 1
CO: 27.87 BB
Hero (BTN): 27.04 BB
SB: 17.43 BB
BB: 58 BB
UTG: 32.44 BB
MP: 17.19 BB

6 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.25 BB) Hero has 9 9

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, CO raises to 2.3 BB, Hero ???


Hand 2
CO: 22.4 BB
Hero (BTN): 25.36 BB
SB: 19.94 BB
BB: 46.62 BB
UTG: 35.64 BB

5 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.12 BB) Hero has A 7

UTG calls 1 BB, CO calls 1 BB, [color=red]Hero ???


Hand 2 (the very next one)
UTG: 25.2 BB
Hero (CO): 18.2 BB
BTN: 16.56 BB
SB: 39 BB
BB: 29.59 BB

5 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.12 BB) Hero has A 7

UTG calls 1 BB, Hero ???

Thoughts ?
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07-31-2022 , 11:06 AM
Hand 1 99
Definitely not folding and also not just calling creating a 4-5 way pot most of the time. Normally we dont rejam with more than 25BB, but here these is extra dead money from the limper, so I think, its a reasonable risk-reward for rejamming. And that would be my play, because even if you raise to say 5,5BB and get it heads up with CO, 99 dont play all that well postflop with a low SPR of less than 2. Most boards will have one if not multible overcards, so there are going to be a lot of question marks, unless you flop a set. So for me I would take a very exploitative line here and 3-bet small with the very best hands like QQ+, call small pocket pairs to setmine,and then jam the rest of the range, I want to play.

Hand 2 A7 of spades
With two limps you are not quite getting the right risk-reward to jam here for 25,36BB, and I dont see a small raise doing anything other than bloating the pot. So here I would overlimp and try to see a cheap flop and then just go from there. Overlimping is not my most common line, but there are times to do it, and this looks like such a time.

Hand 3 A7 of hearts
Same hand again but you are shallower now with just 18,2BB and facing only a single limper. Here I think, the risk-reward is just about good enough for jamming, so that would be my prefered line, and my second choise would be to limp behind yet again. I still dont think, a small raise is going to do anything other than bloating the pot.
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09-09-2022 , 11:23 AM
Yes!!!

I think fundiver199 nailed it perfectly.

Well explained

Good luck
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09-09-2022 , 04:07 PM
I am jamming all 3 hands.

Hand 2 is closest but its still 2 very wide ranges who limped. You are really only worried about the blinds waking up with a strong hand (a weak sb is prob folding even AJ anyways to a jam). Hard for me to believe that jamming and winning 4.5bb most of the time w/o showdown is less profitable than limping behind and trying to win a 4-5 way flop.
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09-09-2022 , 09:04 PM
Hand 1 is an easy, easy jam. Hand 2 is almost as easy a jam. Hand 3 is a little stickier because we're deeper and there's less in the pot, but it probably can't be bad to pile. It's probably not bad to overlimp or raise smaller either, but those choices will make it more difficult to win the pot, although you may win a bigger one.

In general, piling in money preflop with good hands against players playing this wide a starting range is always a good strategy.
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