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Old 03-03-2015, 12:00 PM   #26
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Re: ****Official 888 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

okay cool hopefully **** gets done then... surprised this thread wasnt made along time ago if there is an 888 rep. will happily provide suggestions for improvement
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Old 03-03-2015, 12:10 PM   #27
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Re: ****Official 888 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

The danger is (through no fault of his own) that 888 rep is merely a messenger.

He doesn't have the direct influence that Bryan and Shyam have.

It's most likely that he'll reply but at best he can only really say "I've passed this on for you".

That said, this thread should help 888 see that they have a real opportunity here given many players are frustrated and starting to view them as best alternative.

Hope that's the case!
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Old 03-03-2015, 01:21 PM   #28
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Re: ****Official 888 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

Awesome start in other thread:



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We would like to thank the players who have been giving us feedback and suggestions re our MTT structure here and on another thread. At this point, we will reply on this thread. Our poker-room management team carefully reads all comments, some of which we are referring to below while the others will be taken into consideration at another time and some of them will also be implemented at a later stage (and some will not…).


1. Saturday schedule: we are considering adding a deep stack tournament in the afternoon (EU time)

2. Automatic timebank: go to Settings / Game Settings / “Time Bank Activation” - automatic

3. Betsize buttons, timebank improvements and other product recommendations: at this point in time, our development pipeline is overloaded with high priority projects, some of which are related to casino games, regulatory markets etc. Therefore, we are cherry-picking good poker-related recommendations and we will add them when we have the development capacity. For example, during the last few months we’ve re-developed our table balancing system and significantly improved our mobile access (and we will have more on this front). Moreover, I am happy to inform you that the “final table deal” is already in development and if all goes well we will launch it towards the middle of this year.

4. $20r: we increased the GNTD from 1.5k to 2k

5. Mid-range MTTs: we are planning to add more dailies during April

6. Monsoon structure: Please be more specific about what blind levels you feel are missing from the structure

We love getting feedack and are happy you are enjoying the efforts we have been putting into improving our tournament schedule.
On phone so cba to link, it's over in the internet poker section
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Old 03-03-2015, 01:33 PM   #29
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Re: ****Official 888 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

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Software issues are the most important, timebank + needs to be easier to read the relevant information off the table. I can't make an 888 table as small as a stars/ftp one since its too hard to see who's in the hand, stacksizes, bet size, pot size.
this +1000

also there is still no sounds in the mac client

and lol at ragging on stars in this way; a lot of you guys seem to big up 888 lately but its still so so so so far behind stars in every way apart from a couple of good mtts.

if their rep is more effective and responsive than bryan i would be amazed. not that bryan is amazing, just 888 software and support is so poor.

imagine if there had been no sound in your stars client for 4 months. this is what we are dealing with.
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Old 03-03-2015, 02:15 PM   #30
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Re: ****Official 888 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

make prizepools a bit bigger
add some extra tourneys like freezouts or rebuys
add them in early CET hours (8-16)

and you have my heart
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Old 03-03-2015, 02:31 PM   #31
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Also, please don't ask me if I want to see the hand history of a tournament I just bust, it's like an automated rubdown and 0% of the time does anyone want to do this.
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Old 03-03-2015, 06:10 PM   #32
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Re: ****Official 888 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

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also there is still no sounds in the mac client

imagine if there had been no sound in your stars client for 4 months. this is what we are dealing with.
I know that you used "no sound" as an example, but I can easily imagine my stars client without sound, because I haven't used any in two years.
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Old 03-03-2015, 06:15 PM   #33
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Re: ****Official 888 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

- The finale table payouts need to get fixed, the jumps are just ridiculous, especially when you can't make deals.

T- he late game of the monsoon def needs some more levels.

- earlier ante's would be sweet, litterally nobody likes 75/150 or 100/200 levels without ante's.

thank you for your time if you guys are actually reading this
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Old 03-03-2015, 07:50 PM   #34
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Definitely make deals possible please this is huge
BIG + 1MILLION I HAD TO PLAY FOR 10K PAYJUMP DIFFERENCE HU THIS SUNDAY FFFS
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Old 03-03-2015, 08:55 PM   #35
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Re: ****Official 888 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

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Old 03-03-2015, 10:34 PM   #36
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- earlier ante's would be sweet, litterally nobody likes 75/150 or 100/200 levels without ante's.

thank you for your time if you guys are actually reading this
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Old 03-03-2015, 11:10 PM   #37
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Re: ****Official 888 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

what do u guys think about the pre antes structure in 888 MTTs? i feel like antes kick in too late and we are super shallow at that time, excepting the mega deep and volcano. you still have 50bbs when antes kick in, in comparison to croco/tornado when you would have 25bbs
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Old 03-03-2015, 11:19 PM   #38
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Re: ****Official 888 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

better structure deep please. even your crocodile plays really bingo-y late
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Old 03-04-2015, 02:13 AM   #39
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BIG + 1MILLION I HAD TO PLAY FOR 10K PAYJUMP DIFFERENCE HU THIS SUNDAY FFFS
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Old 03-04-2015, 08:35 AM   #40
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Re: ****Official 888 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

dont ever change the payouts ever thats the best thin about 888 aside from being able to hurl produce about

agre antes should kick in 40/80 or 50/100 ... currently 75/150 (no ante) for most is to late and ave stack is 25bbs just as antes kick in

and a 900/1800 level and 1300/2600 level in the monsoon would sweeten it up a bit?
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Old 03-04-2015, 09:41 AM   #41
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Re: ****Official 888 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

get the deal option imo
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Old 03-04-2015, 10:30 AM   #42
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Re: ****Official 888 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

squire, reasoning behind not wanting a deal option? I mean you can always decline, I'd def rather see a deal option than flattening payouts too much. if you wish to go for glory you still have the option...

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Old 03-04-2015, 10:38 AM   #43
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Re: ****Official 888 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

Its way more important in the major mtt's on their site imo.

I'm much more indifferent if it's a vanilla $22 deepstack, In fact I think that making 1st prize more attractive in these smaller mtt';s is best. But say you FT a sunday Major and you end up playing a shallow stack HU game for huge amounts of money you would rather have a way to make a deal.

In the last Whale, 50% of the prize pool was in the top 3 places.

It pretty much means (I think) that to realise your Equity in such a field you need to come top 3 over a decent sample. I think having it a bit flatter would be beneficial... and the first prize would still be attractive.
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Old 03-04-2015, 10:52 AM   #44
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Re: ****Official 888 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

Deal if first place is more than 6.5k or something seems good
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Old 03-04-2015, 10:57 AM   #45
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Re: ****Official 888 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

that's selfish. The lower levels also suffer from horrible payout structures. Also the lower numbers on games running total on 888 makes it even harder to variance it out.
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Old 03-04-2015, 11:07 AM   #46
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Re: ****Official 888 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

Why is that selfish? As mentioned recs are attracted by big fest prizes so the bowl def benefit from that yolo payout structure. Don't think it's terrible at all fwiw at low stakes but when the money gets huge it's just silly
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Old 03-04-2015, 11:13 AM   #47
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Re: ****Official 888 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

Flattening payout structure is definitely gonna hinder the 100-200 player fields which fill the midweek schedule and these fields are small enough that you can "variance it out" about as well as possible for an mtt. ITM is like 15-20 players, so > half of your ITM's are FT appearances.

I think it makes a lot more sense in the bigger comps, as mentioned. And given it's a much esier change to implement than intro software for deal making I think it's the most realistic solution.
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Old 03-04-2015, 01:39 PM   #48
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Re: ****Official 888 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

crocodile and vulcano were good moves.
+1 to dealoption
+1 to 1-2 more highstakes tourney a week (Saturday Deepstack 500$-50k) or Friday 6max Challenge 109$Rebuy-30k

Please improve the multitabling quality of the software.
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Old 03-04-2015, 04:01 PM   #49
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Re: ****Official 888 2015 MTT Discussion Thread****

Get the Wednesday Turbo back on board.



I just saw there is a "MARCHandise Madness" Freeroll for players who deposit 50$ with the "Madmarch" code.

Well the game had 25 min entrants and just got cancelled due to having only 16 players. I had no idea you had a promo running by this - and I guess a ****load of people also did not. Except those 16 who just went sour because their freeroll, where they deposited 50$ for, was cancelled.

You def need to improve the way you advertise your promos instead of having some sweet promos somewhere in the lobby when you filter only freerolls.


Like:

1k$ Invite-a-friend-Freeroll - I can't remember seeing any ads for this in years.

20$K Swing into the action freeroll - as for being a huge thing, I maybe saw the ad only 2-3 times.

3k$ Booster Freeroll - how the heck do we get tickets for this without depositing while chatting with your support?

Freeroll to Milton Keys

Freeroll to the Volcano

PokerPT VIP Freeroll

and the Marchandise Madness

these are all freerolls where basically any player who isn't filtering their lobby exclusive for freeroll games, has no clue they are actually there.

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Old 03-04-2015, 10:34 PM   #50
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squire, reasoning behind not wanting a deal option? I mean you can always decline, I'd def rather see a deal option than flattening payouts too much. if you wish to go for glory you still have the option...

#goldmedal
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Its way more important in the major mtt's on their site imo.

I'm much more indifferent if it's a vanilla $22 deepstack, In fact I think that making 1st prize more attractive in these smaller mtt';s is best. But say you FT a sunday Major and you end up playing a shallow stack HU game for huge amounts of money you would rather have a way to make a deal.

In the last Whale, 50% of the prize pool was in the top 3 places.

It pretty much means (I think) that to realise your Equity in such a field you need to come top 3 over a decent sample. I think having it a bit flatter would be beneficial... and the first prize would still be attractive.
yeah i just like the fact theres no deals, although it would prob be beneficial, im more onboard for a deal option, i think flattening the payouts is the worst suggestion in the thread!

look what party poker did to there payout structures and how that affected every mtt on the site can the majority say they want to grind the monsoon with 80 pay and $2500 ftw rather than 40 pay and $5k ftw? grow up lets not kill 888 like they did party
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