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04-13-2018 , 08:25 AM
I play mainly on 888 lately and I am up about 7k in 4 months (from Zero!) - after busting >10k rolls on stars many times over the last ten years :/

What I like:
- soft fields
- big mincashes
- overlays
- quick & easy deal option on ft

What annoys me:
- Slow cashouts (>1 week!) and no option to cash out on neteller etc.
- Software: Idiotic table pop-ups, chat-window!!!
- no pkos (why????)
- vitually no rakeback - promos for micro players only valuable

just my 2 cents

cheers!
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04-13-2018 , 08:34 AM
Much kudos for 12+r:s... I've played them every day I have been on computer. Even gave 88 1r1a a shot (move I have never done without 12+r:s) because I noticed it when played those two rebuys.

If it wouldn't be too much to ask, could there be super turbo 12+r around 23:30 CET (3,5 hours after 1st rebuy and 1,5 hours after turbo). A third tournament I would play every day and probably more tournaments alongside those three.
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04-13-2018 , 08:58 AM
since your servers are pretty bad today, you can't even access the challenges window.

Today's Pirate Quest either needs to get cancelled or make it so that everyone automatically finishes it today.
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04-13-2018 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Uhrenknecht
since your servers are pretty bad today, you can't even access the challenges window.

Today's Pirate Quest either needs to get cancelled or make it so that everyone automatically finishes it today.
everything works fine for me right now, also never had server problems in the last 4 months
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04-13-2018 , 11:36 AM
Now 18 hours of no answer on a simple email to why a withdrawal is not approved.
Really this is the customer service you can get away with? In 2018. Wow.
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04-13-2018 , 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by CJAcesRule
Now 18 hours of no answer on a simple email to why a withdrawal is not approved.
Really this is the customer service you can get away with? In 2018. Wow.
try the chat option offered in the cashier - worked fine for me
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04-14-2018 , 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Lockerl71
everything works fine for me right now, also never had server problems in the last 4 months
well it's over a day now and I can't access that dang challenges window "The server is currently down, try again in a few minutes"

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"The server is currently down, try again in a few days"
FMP
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04-14-2018 , 07:11 AM
why is 888 not showing sattelites to big mtts (great 8, megadeep...) in the sattelites list??
you have to scroll way down to the event and open the event and ONLY then you see it??

no wonder so many sats get cancelled and there is overlay so often ....... fish never find the sats!
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04-14-2018 , 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Lockerl71
try the chat option offered in the cashier - worked fine for me
I did not it had a chat option there but found it.

888poker Chat
Chat with a member of our support team

Chat Presently Unavailable.

Well that was of no help.

To me it is unbelievable that a company like 888 can offer little to no support to a customer with a valid support question. I actually wanted to move business over from Party and Stars to 888.

I will post my (lack of progress here). Back to Stars (sigh). Tilted.
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04-14-2018 , 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Logical user
888, You need to do something really big with the MTT schedule or the site has a very good chance of dying a slow death. I hate so say it, but you probably need to add PSKO MTTS as the recs and a lot of regs love them. You also need to be willing to increase your guarantees and suck up some overlays for a while. Dropping the guarantees and failing to innovate on a site which is already losing traffic to the other sites is a sure way to go bust.
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@888rep would you answer to this message in particular? This is what everybody thinks. Keep dropping the gtds will not help any tournament to perform :/
What's the situation with the PKOS?
When are you going to join the .fres market?
The 88r on Thursday looks like it's going worse than the quarterback (sorry @suk12)
Could you give a try with any kind of KO? That's what recs want
I had suggested a 160$ with a 50$ bounty but it could be any buy-in,
and it could be a daily tournament since you don't offer a single KO in the evening.
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04-14-2018 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CJAcesRule
Now 18 hours of no answer on a simple email to why a withdrawal is not approved.
Really this is the customer service you can get away with? In 2018. Wow.
Still nothing from 888poker, chat closed, no response on email.
What kind of company am I dealing with ?
Anybody else get responses from 888; who should I contact ?
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04-15-2018 , 09:03 AM
cashed out this week for the 2nd time this month (1,5k and 1k) - works well for me

its just a quite slow process:
- 3 full days until they process it (you see it in the status if they sent it)
- 3-5 days more for the international transfer to arrive at your account
=> 6-8 days all together
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04-15-2018 , 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by CJAcesRule
Still nothing from 888poker, chat closed, no response on email.
What kind of company am I dealing with ?
Anybody else get responses from 888; who should I contact ?
Well, to be fair, I am a step further
- I was able to connect with the chat at cashier (thanks 4 that)
- They acknowledged they can see my emails, they are just over 60 hours behind
- Apparently 888 had emailed me about my ID back in 2016
- If I send them an answer or update ID they will look at it within 72 hours

Of course these timelines are crazy, but I guess it is what it is. I am not starving

If anybody is in for a swap - I have a nice bankroll available from 888 and take pretty much any other relevant site dollars. Or Neteller. Let me know.
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04-15-2018 , 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
Much kudos for 12+r:s... I've played them every day I have been on computer. Even gave 88 1r1a a shot (move I have never done without 12+r:s) because I noticed it when played those two rebuys.

If it wouldn't be too much to ask, could there be super turbo 12+r around 23:30 CET (3,5 hours after 1st rebuy and 1,5 hours after turbo). A third tournament I would play every day and probably more tournaments alongside those three.
- Mirroring the thoughts of Farseer, really good job replacing disgusting re-entry games with Rebuys... Now i say MORE! I think there is room in the peak time for GMT (UK time) players for a one more $2, $5 $12 Rebuys

- You could definitely add a $2 Rebuy between 5pm-6pm, it could even be the "frenzy rebuy" which has the multiple add-on possibility

- As i said before i would love to play the $5r at 10pm (UK time) but it finishes quite late. How about moving that back to around 9pm? Then you could replace the $5 re-entry at 9.45pm with a $5 Turbo Rebuy or even another one of the "Frenzy Rebuys"

- If you don't want to add another $5+ Rebuy too close together then what about converting the $8.88 8Max Turbo at 11.15pm into a Turbo Rebuy at around 10.30pm? I think 1.5 hours is far enough apart from the $12 Rebuy catfish plus its 8max vs 9maz so as to not cannibalize each other
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04-16-2018 , 07:15 AM
Dunno why you would want them to change one of the few decent freezeout turbos into a rebuy.Would just be killing another tournament which in my eyes they have done with the 9pm turbo.Field is half of what it use to be.

I think schedule is just too expensive with it being dominated by so much rebuy and re entry and they are getting close to a similar look of microgaming which is gg.

I think they need to run less tournaments and focus on building gtds again.The daily challenge should be the biggest gtd of the day and they need to work on building that tournament back up again.Removing a few tournaments around it and changing it back to a $35 entry would be a good starting point with a promo of setting a big gtd to actually get players interest back in playing it.Maybe after scamming everyone for so long with rakeback you could give everyone a free $35 ticket to play it the first week.

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04-16-2018 , 08:22 PM
Urgh! Change to more rebuys and add pkos? No thanks, if I see a lobby full of that it would be an instant cash out.

Tournaments are dying because of too many re-entry & rebuys, coupled with two and a half hour late reg's. Late reg should be for people who are a little late for the start not for most of the evening just to get the GTD higher. It's that **** that puts casuals off imo.

Don't kill off the site with a lobby full of rebuys.
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04-16-2018 , 08:49 PM
FYI re-entry is far closer to freezeout than rebuy imo. Too many re-entries and too few rebuys imo... could also do with some more freezeouts but most recs actually rather play re-entry with larger prizepool than freezeout with smaller. I think there's still place for all of those.

And it would be a great start if re-entries would have separate tag from rebuy. It's roughly as much sense having same tag for re-entry and rebuy as it would to have same tag for deepstack and hyper turbo tournaments.
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04-17-2018 , 12:23 PM
RIP Vulcano
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04-17-2018 , 12:47 PM
The more i think about party's approach with less tournaments is now making more sense to me. It's probably best to revamp the 888 schedule and just remove some of the poor performing and cluttered mtts with new and fresher formats while keeping your main games. You need to finally clean up the lobbies, they still look too messy and it's probably not doing the site any good.

Even though i was not a fan of pko's i think you have to now introduce them on your site as quick as possible.
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04-17-2018 , 02:50 PM
+1 for cleaning up the lobbies, they are literally so cluttered if I was a rec logging on for the first time I wouldnt have a clue whats going on just 1c/10c garbage sattys filling the lobby. Thank god I found out about the favourites tab - which still btw is limited in usage.
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04-17-2018 , 03:23 PM
Anyone who won a WSOP Main event package from 888 can tell me how it works? Just curious if they email us a week or 2 prior to the main or do we need to contact them? I emailed asking support, unfor no response for a few days now
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04-17-2018 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
FYI re-entry is far closer to freezeout than rebuy imo. Too many re-entries and too few rebuys imo... could also do with some more freezeouts but most recs actually rather play re-entry with larger prizepool than freezeout with smaller. I think there's still place for all of those.

And it would be a great start if re-entries would have separate tag from rebuy. It's roughly as much sense having same tag for re-entry and rebuy as it would to have same tag for deepstack and hyper turbo tournaments.
Yeah, calling re-entries rebuys is a bit silly. You can only tell if it's a re-entry if you go in to a lobby tab and see that you need to be down to 1 chip to rebuy.

But tournaments are becoming too long, drop the long reg, 8 hours to final table just isn't fun, then you bubble and a rec thinks was it worth it for the 3x buyin. It's maybe not too bad for a 10 tabling grinder with his piss bottle but casuals can't be loving that.

They need to shorten them and stop thinking about guarantees. I noticed 888 added an extra 20 minutes to a tournament the other week and slightly increased it's buy in, I've still not seen it hit the guarantee.

And have a good wince at Ipoker's lobby if you want to see what happens when you fill a lobby with rebuys, you may twist your face further when you notice some even have multi-entries. I can remember not too long ago when they were the 2nd biggest site.
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04-17-2018 , 05:51 PM
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And have a good wince at Ipoker's lobby if you want to see what happens when you fill a lobby with rebuys, you may twist your face further when you notice some even have multi-entries. I can remember not too long ago when they were the 2nd biggest site.
They mainly withered because iPoker got super greedy: they got rid of all good bonuses AND started to rake 10% from rebuys and add-ons too. Easy way to kill rebuys, but their plan to make everything re-entry / freezeout instead backfired too so they were forced to make most of them rebuys so that they wouldn't have completely died (larger prize pools). Now their tournament offering is poor, but without rebuys it would be deadzone.

But I still believe @ variety. You can't please everyone by promoting just one kind of tournament type. Let there be rebuys, re-entries, freezeouts, hypers, turbos, regspeeds, texas hold'em, PLO, NLO8 etc.

And still +1 for too much clutter @ the lobby. 1c / 10c MTT sats should go, just make sure you keep some of them as a Sit and Go-format because it's good to have a way for higher games from the very bottom, but don't let lobby get cluttered by it.

And yeah favorite-tabs is great but no way to distinct re-entries from rebuys, sigh
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04-17-2018 , 08:36 PM
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Dunno why you would want them to change one of the few decent freezeout turbos into a rebuy.Would just be killing another tournament which in my eyes they have done with the 9pm turbo.Field is half of what it use to be.

I think schedule is just too expensive with it being dominated by so much rebuy and re entry and they are getting close to a similar look of microgaming which is gg.

I think they need to run less tournaments and focus on building gtds again.The daily challenge should be the biggest gtd of the day and they need to work on building that tournament back up again.Removing a few tournaments around it and changing it back to a $35 entry would be a good starting point with a promo of setting a big gtd to actually get players interest back in playing it.Maybe after scamming everyone for so long with rakeback you could give everyone a free $35 ticket to play it the first week.
- Forgive me if all the underlying seems condescending but i just want to distinguish between all the formats

- I agree with you that we should not turn everything into Rebuy because it hikes up the prices too much for many players

- However i did not say, nor do i think its a good idea to convert Freezeouts into Rebuys; but i LOVE the idea of turning Re-Entry into Rebuys. I think you mean the Turbo Freezeout at 9.45pm?? The changed this and many others into a Re-entry... again i don't want to turn Freezeouts but now that this is a Re-entry then its better off as a Rebuy


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Originally Posted by jambo227
The more i think about party's approach with less tournaments is now making more sense to me. It's probably best to revamp the 888 schedule and just remove some of the poor performing and cluttered mtts with new and fresher formats while keeping your main games. You need to finally clean up the lobbies, they still look too messy and it's probably not doing the site any good.

Even though i was not a fan of pko's i think you have to now introduce them on your site as quick as possible.
This is so, so, so important. I think that is a LOT of room to merge tournaments together to create nice prize pools instead of creating them artificially with re-entries or indeed with rebuys

A big issue with the tournaments on 888 especially the re-entry are the ultra long late registration periods... I think that if they converted some of the Re-entry into Rebuys while also merging some of the other Re-entires together to form new combined Freezeouts would be great for a few reasons.

Firstly you can reduce the late registration slightly and not suffer as much because you are effectively drawing on two "player-pools", for example the players playing the $8pm Re-entry and the ones playing the 9pm Re-entry would join together for an 8.30pm Freezeout.

Secondly now that its a bigger and potentially much bigger tournament its not as bad to have longer running times; the Regs will have an improved ROI/Hourly with these change because of the field size and softer field due to no re-entries

Recreational players can win more because coming 20th pays more in, for example, a 500-players merged freezeout instead of coming 20th in one of the 200 player re-entry games

Recreational players can win more often because they wont be the ones re-entering as much as Regs, its a softer game for them to get lucky in thus easier form them to score "big" because everyone only gets one shot

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04-18-2018 , 02:02 AM
I'd say keep those 1c/10c satellites but don't show them in the full schedule, rather have a tab for main games and for micro satellites you can switch from.
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