lol i just wonder what would have been Pads reaction if even a tiny schedule change happened elsewhere after the start......on stars with like wcoop, LOL! he would go nuts and now hes just assisting to it here, funny

to be honest im pretty tilted and angry, it has affected my game, i was planning to play nice 2day events with a tiny roll, but thx to these changes those small buyin events doesnt excites me anymore and busted the roll taking shots at bigger buyin monsters. so gg for me to the mosterseries and prob to party too untill they doesnt do changes every second, and dont fix the lobby, also tilting and totally uneccessary thing when i move the cursor in the lobby trying navigate in this messed up lobby with a lot of sattelites im not care about and want to find the right game i might want to play there is a automatic pop up which pop up in one sec saying tournament id: xxxxxxxx# double click to open the tournament lobby so i move my cursor a bit away and there is again a pop up which blocks again what i want to see. srsly, why this is need in there, cant see a thing from it


rant over, meh.

Hi

There is no absence regarding Bryan, he is still working for Party and is more than welcome to post in these threads.

All of the tournament formats stay the same in the majority of the tournaments we just made some logical changes to benefit the players. We received extensive feedback from a lot of players, but of course when you make big changes not everybody will be happy and we understand that. For those who are unhappy things changed I sympathise, for those who are happy with the changes thanks.

The numbers over the last 3 days support that the players are happy with the changes.

For example, 2 day $33 tournament got 800 runners, 1 day $44 got 1200 runners both at same starting time. I've said it previously but we have a lot of recreational and semi amateur players from Canada that are unable to play 2 day $33 tournaments because the start time would be around 1-2pm when they are at work. In Brazil where we are also having huge success it would be a little bit too early too.

We realise our player base, the strengths and the limitations of it, supporting 2 day tournaments right now is just a little bit unrealistic, especially when its 10+/day. The verbal feedback we got from that on the first day of the series was overwhelming and in the numbers we saw it too, its the first monster series we've ran and of course won't be perfect, but we want to run a really good MTT series and its better to make a change after day 1 if you are in the wrong than just run the whole series. The plan is to run multiple monster series in 2018 and there will be lessons to be learned from this one for sure.

So, are you trying to imply that Europe is not your majority market?

I also know a tournament manager who's fond of the positive feedback and ignores the negative one.

Nope, I didn't say that. I'll quote what I said incase you misread.

And reason people don't post much on 2p2 is probably exactly because of stuff like this, if you ever say something people are assuming you're saying something different or not listening to them etc.

I'm just posting updates of changes in the thread when they're done.

"I've said it previously but we have a lot of recreational and semi amateur players from Canada that are unable to play 2 day $33 tournaments because the start time would be around 1-2pm when they are at work. In Brazil where we are also having huge success it would be a little bit too early too. "

Basically we think 2 day tournaments with a such low buy in won’t attract the recs (who play on partypoker). Esp where those are too early in the day, or during weekdays since most recs have a dayjob for example. I think that’s a fair assesment tbh.

Fair enough reasoning pads i guess, just a shame i was one of the recs negatively effected rather than positively but oh well.

I still think its wrong to change a schedule mid series though even if your reasoning sounds OK. Just change it for the next series not the one currently running IMO.

Is it on purpose that the Micro Mix-Max only pays 20 Players?

first of all, i like the concept of the monster series. Lot of fun ideas and I think it would be nice if some of them were implemented in the normal schedule. Really liked the 22r 2x turbo today, that should become a regular tournament (maybe also try different buyins). Do have to think about how rebuys will be raked, as the reason that rebuys have died on most sites is because the rake is too high.

the mixmax was fun, but paying only 16 players is ridiculous with a mincash of 800$ (20 buyins!!). Also there was no break at the normal time

ye, mix max payouts should be a mistake.

they're calculated on the number of players who survived the 6max part only lol

reminds me when stars made the same mistake

P.S.: gonna be one fun bubble

Hi

Just saw mix max payouts, i think its unfair to stop the tournament now and redo them, obviously its a big mistake, not sure how/who etc, but definitely not optimal for you guys who played. Whoever bubbles I'll personally give a $215 ticket to!

Sorry again about that.

I agree.. stopping would be terrible. I personally don't mind the payouts^^
Very generous of you to award a bubble-prize

How is the awarding for leaderboard-points going to work? Do only get the players itm points?

Wednesday MTTs during monster series.

$109 Drago [$10k gtd] - prizepool $14.100
$109 Uppercut Warm Up [$20k gtd] - prizepool $38.000
$55 Big Brawl II [$10k gtd] - prizepool $19.250
$55 Counterpunch turbo [$5k gtd] - prizepool $9.800

Two points I want to make.

1) Do not remove your daily schedule offering during Monster series, Powerfest, etc. People wanna play on your site more and more, just give them an option to do so. It was always part of any series, that daily mtts had bigger prizepools than usual. It just doesnt make sence to not run daily mtts because of special events.

2) I hope that you will try harder with your mid-stakes offering when the series is over. Look at the numbers how it helps to regular daily mtts offerings. If you can run daily $109 with 500 runners, you can easily have a 1000 runners in a daily $33 tournament. And I actually think that you dont have to try that hard. Just give small to midstake players that option and they will come to your site. The best part is that high stakes mtts will grow as well because of it.

+1 to this question. I thought that every tournament counts even if it's busted but didn't get points for busting mix max at ~23-28, don't remember exactly

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is only my lobby bugged btw? can't edit prev post, not sure why. pls fix it asap if this bug is not on my side. can't move these vertical bars so it'll be frustrating today. not really related that closely to the monster series so perhaps I should post it somewhere else

Hi,

Just wondering if leaderboard points are going to be awarded for the mix max monster series tournaments? As far as I am aware none have been so far.

the daily micro mtt shedule is a joke-a bad joke!
and now the last two playable mtts are away....
the changes in the Monster series is a pure dissapointmend

the full site is a dissapointmend after gvc is in!!!

sorry for my bad english plz

yes

Do Bwin players get a slice of the leaderboard?

If so, where can I check it?

Here's my feedback : We do NOT need 4 hour lateregs ! Expect donk calls for 4 hours . 2 hours would be fine, 3 hours is pushing it, but 4 hours is hell.

event 38, 5 reentries is too much! the usual 3 already is too much imo

WAY TOO LONG DAY1s! In the $5.50 2 day for instance.. 11/1169 got through to day2. 9 hours day1 and day2 will probably last 2-3 hours (maximum)! Please shorten day1s by 10 levels or something!

I would rather have a system where you get through to day2 after a percentage % of the field is left! For instance top5%

Hello there, everyone...

I hope that you're all enjoying the 1st-ever Monster Micro-to-Mid-Stakes series!

My apologies for not replying to anything since the start of the series. As you may have been able to tell from the client, things have been extremely hectic for quite a while. In the week leading up to the series, I was hyper-busy creating blinds structures, pay structures, satellite rotations, etc. Once the series started in earnest, I expected to be able to post more often, but things got even more hectic as Saturday (21 Oct) was without question the worst Day 1 of any series I've ever run. Happily, on the occasions that I was able to spend some time here, I saw that O.S.S. had already answered various questions which I'd normally have addressed; it didn't seem to make much sense to hop on to reply, "...what he said". As for the server showing me as not logging in since September 28th, that's probably because I've been reading 2p2 while in the bath, and my mobile devices (phone, Galaxy pad) aren't set up to log me in automatically, nor would I use them to reply to anything which required a reply longer than a sentence or two, anyway... nor am I risking dunking my laptop.

In any case, with everything pretty much set through the end of the series, here I sit with Game 3 of the World Series (go Astros!) in the background, answering as many questions as possible.

(By the way, I can't seem to find the WYSIWYG editor. Has it been removed? If I'm missing something obvious, someone please tell me.)

As O.S.S. mentioned, the payouts for the Day 2s were 80.0% for Event 06, both Micro and Mid-Stakes. I've been working on a 90.0% pay table for a while now and it should be in place in time for Day 2 of Event 44 on Sunday. I'd prefer to be able to pay 100.0% of Day 2s, but without increasing the gap between the end of the last Day 1 and the start of Day 2, that's not likely to happen.

1) Thanks! I've been hopeful that the longer registration periods would help the events build throughout said late registration period. The basic rule of thumb is that late registration is open until the big blind is 1/10th of a starting stack. For events where the calculation isn't as simple as that, such as Ante Up or Stud MTTs, a calculation was made in Excel to approximate an appropriate amount of play. In those cases, I erred on the side of caution.

2) From what I have seen and heard to this point, the length of Day 1 has been received happily by many players. After the series is over, I'll be spending a period of time evaluating many things about the series so that we're armed with more information for the next series. The ideal result is that each successive series is better than the one which preceded it.

The Day 1s for the Phased events have been set to appear as time progresses. They've all existed since the series was first deployed, but if we showed them all as soon as they were added, the client would have become overwhelmed with Event 06 and Event 44. Particularly considering the fact that we've had some players telling us that the events were hard to find when we had more than one satellite to each Event, reducing clutter in the lobby is very important.

The structures were initially set up with starting stacks as you mention and blinds structures specifically tailored to each Event. Shortly before the series began, the decision was made to change the flop tournaments to the structures to which players have been accustomed in the PowerFest and Power Series.

I understand your consternation and appreciate the feedback!

Thank you for the feedback on the structures.

Re-entries are included in the total number of players for each Event. To the best of my knowledge, it's not possible to see previous bustouts, though I'll check on this.

As for the overlay, we have been quite surprised, as well. I was particularly surprised by the overlays in Event 06, especially the Micro version. While I know that it's not really in your best interests (in the short term) to help us avoid overlays, I'd appreciate any thoughts you might have regarding the Phase 1s and increasing the popularity of same. Were the Phase 1s not visible enough? Was it not clear enough that the Phase 1s linked to the Phase 2s? Overall (all Events), was it difficult to find the various Events? Do you think that most players wanted to see more satellites? Any other feedback you have will be most appreciated. Combating overlay may not be in your best interests in the short-term, it certainly is in the long-term, for reasons I tend to assume are obvious.

Definitely not that much.

Agreed. After the bad start, the decision was made to move many of the Events to more familiar/popular time slots. This meant that some of the Events moved to new positions, out of the previous order, and also that some time slots (particularly 15:00 EDT) had more than one Event. I appreciate your feedback on this point; thank you!

Thank you very much for your feedback on the starting times. Without question, it would be better if very little about a tournament - let alone a series Event - changed once the tournament(s) hit the client. As for the changes just before and during the series, I can only say that your feedback has been heard and that we'll do much better in future series.

Thank you, as well, for your feedback on the start times; I can certainly respect where you're coming from on this issue. As for further changes, to the best of my knowledge the schedule will not be changing further.

Thank you. I agree with you that players who were already registered in the Events which were moved should have been notified of the time changes, either via in-client message (if that's possible; I honestly don't know as yet) or via email. I should have verified that this was done. I apologize for the inconvenience and/or frustration.

Thank you for the feedback. I think that it's pretty much universally accepted that your point about rebuys is correct. As for the Mix-Max payouts, this is definitely something which will have to be re-done the next time that we run a Mix-Max tournament in this way. The issue is that on partypoker, the payouts are done as a percentage of players in the final Phase of any Phased tournament, no matter how many players were in the overall tournament. The Mix-Max Events are technically Phased tournaments with one Phase 1 and one Phase 2.

As for the missing break at the normal time, are you referring to the xx:55 synchronized break at the end of every hour?

Thank you for your feedback, and I'm sorry that we've disappointed you or any other player in any way. I can promise you that I'm personally committed to improving as much as possible as quickly as possible.

For this particular series, there was no previous iteration of a similar series on which to base such things as Day 1 lengths, guarantees, start times, etc. I've heard mostly positive feedback about the lengths of the Day 1s in 2-Day Events, but I can tell you that we'll be evaluating the Event durations after the series is over, along with many other areas of analysis.

At present, we don't have the ability to stop Day 1 after a certain percentage of players have busted. In any case, if such a system were possible, it's quite likely that Day 1 lengths would be all over the map depending on the structure, game, buy-in, and start time of each individual Event. Add some variance into that and players would mostly have no idea what to expect in terms of how long they'll be playing on Day 1. While there really isn't any one perfect system which pleases everyone, the current system at least has the benefit of each player knowing how long they'll be playing if they make it to Day 2.

As always, thank you for your feedback, everyone! Best of luck in the rest of the series!

yeah I understand the reason for the payouts but you have to fix that for next time obv
The 2nd phase started at 00:45 CET and didn't go on break at 00:55 (in fact I busted in the 5th hand during the break at .58 :P)

55r 2xt and the 55 turbo today were fun. Think the headsup should have a slightly shallower/faster structure, I and I guess a lot of other people skipped it because I expected it to end super late (it's last 6 players now, actually a bit faster than I expected but still)