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00 venetian, should i bluff? 00 venetian, should i bluff?

06-05-2017 , 11:53 PM
100/200/25

HJ opens to 500, button flat,sb flat, I'm in BB with AdJc..3b to 2300
HJ fold, button call, sb fold
I have 24k button has 14
Flop
Qd 10d 8c
Cx Cx

Turn
4s
I lead 3500 button call
river 2s
Do we jam this river or ck give up?
we are perceived as a mtt pro as we have been talking about being here for the summer with a few guys at the table so I'm not sure if this is a good thing or bad thing as they should know I am capable of bluff shoving
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06-06-2017 , 05:09 AM
Pre really meh, flop really meh
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06-06-2017 , 05:27 AM
flat or moar pre. closer to 3000. I think flop is a mandatory C-bet once you squeeze. You can make the nuts, and you can slam the turn on all diamonds. As played, I don't see what you're trying to rep on the river. All ur big hands that hit this flop are going to be c-betting.
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06-06-2017 , 08:37 AM
Squeezing is preferable to flatting pre imo, sizing seems fine as well though you might go slightly bigger. I'm happy to get HU/tid pre, prolly flatting AJs though.

Post should be a 2-street-game If you think he can fold hands like JT imo
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06-06-2017 , 09:43 AM
Would call pre, or be bigger if 3b. Def 1/2-pot otf w Ad. And barrel shove turn. As played, read depend otb b/w check or jam otr
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06-06-2017 , 01:12 PM
pre is fine and good would prolly make it a little bigger tho. ez bet otf. as played just x turn...why are you betting turn? value? protection? bluff? this turn bet is pretty awful imo
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06-06-2017 , 02:03 PM
I think you should bluff the river. Feels like villain has a hand like JT, T9 or 98. Although a lot of key information is missing. What is the villain like? How did they lose their chips?

What is your table image like? (You say you are talking tournaments, but have you shown down big hands?). Are you older or younger?
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06-06-2017 , 03:14 PM
pre is fine, although this deep playing OOP I don't mind a flat. If we do squeeze we need to be c betting this flop almost always H/U.
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06-06-2017 , 03:37 PM
but yea this is a slam dunk cbet blocking aq and qj
( ) mtt pro?
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06-06-2017 , 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by PhatPots
I think you should bluff the river. Feels like villain has a hand like JT, T9 or 98. Although a lot of key information is missing. What is the villain like? How did they lose their chips?

What is your table image like? (You say you are talking tournaments, but have you shown down big hands?). Are you older or younger?
Villan was mid 30s, he bet folded 2-3 times and was half stacked, roughly

i was vpip'ing a good bit but was getting most thru. the two hands i had shown down were top two and a turned flush. i am 30 fyi
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06-06-2017 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by lolposting2016
but yea this is a slam dunk cbet blocking aq and qj
( ) mtt pro?
yeah mtt circuit grinder which the guy who called off knew bc we were talking about it with our end of the table
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06-09-2017 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by lolposting2016
but yea this is a slam dunk cbet blocking aq and qj
( ) mtt pro?
Yah +1 Ad too imo...as played this doesn't seem like the best combo to barrel off after u cap ur range otf...this texture is pretty good for btn, especially if he doesn't 3bet liberally pre
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06-11-2017 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by lolposting2016
but yea this is a slam dunk cbet blocking aq and qj
( ) mtt pro?
slam dunk cbet blocking aq and qj


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Originally Posted by erc007
Yah +1 Ad too imo...as played this doesn't seem like the best combo to barrel off after u cap ur range otf...this texture is pretty good for btn, especially if he doesn't 3bet liberally pre
Jd probably is a better blocker to barrel but if we are just fond of having diamond blocker then we can boast our Kd as well.
But would we have 9d? ))

If we were deeper all 3 options woulda been fine otf under rights circumstances.
This shallow checking to decide occasionally is also fine, you just should understand why you`re doing this - creating check range.

OTT your sizing is way too large (you bet 35 into ~58) creating 0.75 river SPR which isnt great for this situation.
As played I would give up of course when everything bricked and you have less than pot behind esp if you have aggro/pro image esp vs someone who already b/f 3 times.
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06-14-2017 , 07:58 PM
Bluffing the river is a pretty big mistake. Your hand makes no sense at that point.

Big mistake is you should be flatting or 3-betting larger pre though. Second biggest mistake is just bet that flop w/ all the blockers you have.
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06-15-2017 , 08:42 AM
Bigger pre, bet flop-->shove turn is a better plan than what you did. As played a river bluff would be terrible.
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