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04-21-2010 , 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by shaniac
I disagree...why is he relying on players' baseless guesses for what a wish-list tournament will draw? He's a professional TD and should realize that there's no reason why a player would be able to accurately predict how many entries a certain tournament will attract...especially when these requests come from players who obviously have specific agendas.

Can you spread a 2K turbo during the next DSE, I guarantee it it will get 500 players!!!

Edit: I think it's cool that DCarp did listen to certain players' complaints and responded to his customers, but I don't recall any kind of critical mass crying out for PLO rebuys during the month of April, so it's not something that should be a shock when the turnouts are weak.

Also, Rome wasn't built in a day--if the Venetian wants to create a market for mixed game tourneys, it should expect that market to grow slowly.
When TDs don't listen to players, they get s&^%$, and when they do listen, they still get cr*& because they listened to players who may or may not know what the hell they are talking about?

a TDs effort to cater to the players requests should be commended. I agree that TDs do need to rely on their own instincts and experiences more often though. Also, there is no reason for any TD or establishment to want to 'create a market for mixed games' They are in it to make money, and if the demand isn't there, they should simply drop it...regardless of the 20 very vocal people who will write 100 posts about how great the mixed games are and people like Chainsaw that will complain if the structures were better they would draw massive fields.
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04-21-2010 , 09:42 PM
Thank you for backing me up on this one guys...I'm over it now, just had to get it off my chest. I'm sure this thread will get much longer in the next day or two, though...

Oh, and "dcarp rantaments"...priceless.

dcarp
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04-25-2010 , 03:17 PM
Part of the reason no one showed up for those mixed events is that they were not advertised. The scehdule was changed after the fact and many mixed event players were unaware that they were even running them.
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04-25-2010 , 10:03 PM
confirm the chainsaw.

i had no idea about them and i live in a house with 3 poker players in LV and our circle of friends contains a venetian floor. i played all the wynn classic horse/o8 events and those all got 100+ runners on weekdays. i looked at one of the original schedules and then didn't think about it further.
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04-25-2010 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by shaniac
Can you spread a 2K turbo during the next DSE, I guarantee it it will get 500 players!!!
qft

or better yet, make it 20k starting chips and 1 hour levels but starting at 1k/2k/200
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04-25-2010 , 11:02 PM
rofl dantes
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04-26-2010 , 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ProfessorBen
confirm the chainsaw.

i had no idea about them and i live in a house with 3 poker players in LV and our circle of friends contains a venetian floor. i played all the wynn classic horse/o8 events and those all got 100+ runners on weekdays. i looked at one of the original schedules and then didn't think about it further.
if Venetian had advertised the full schedule from the onset with nl at noon and mixed at 4pm each day, the turnout would have been fine.
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04-27-2010 , 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by shaniac
Do you realize how much more appealing a $1k rebuy is to a large group of random players than a $2,500 event? Also how many high limit pit degens now know the rules of hold 'em?
i sat next to a mexican guy in the plo rebuy who had no idea how to play omaha or speak english. the tournament director had to get a translator to explain the rules to him. of course, i was moved to scott's table before the 2nd orbit. fml.
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Originally Posted by adanthar
I would be very surprised if < 2 people come out of the prelims with multiple bracelets.
just one, i think?

Last edited by wheelflush; 04-27-2010 at 01:17 AM. Reason: the translator didn't know how to play either
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