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09-20-2018 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by xLAGERTHAx
Can fully understand/appreciate why people are getting upset over the situation with the $530/$1 Million GTD being slashed in half and the other changes. To be making these sorts of changes at this late stage is really poor on PP's part and there's no way this should be happening IMO.

This isn't just some 'regular schedule MTT' for PP to mess around with as they please (like they currently do with the majority of there MTT's on a daily basis), this is an MTT that is part of PP's major series - a series that has been marketed/advertised for some time now and more importantly, is now already more than 2/3rd's of the way through completion.

This also isn't just about the changes "being an inconvenience", this is about the fact that PP aren't honouring what was marketed/advertised and the reasons/excuses given (along with the situation as a whole) falling well short of what is acceptable in a players mind. It also shows incompetence on PP's part and the person in charge of setting the series up should probably be removed from there position as a result.

This situation (along with all the other ongoing MTT schedule issues), does little in regards to helping install confidence in PP and for a poker site that's trying to get a bigger foothold in the industry/attract more players, your certainly going about it in an unconvincing way IMO.
1- Same topic again and again :

**** product ( structures and variety- unbalanced buy ins - no sat for under 109 events)
>>> less players
>>> panic
>>> cut guarantes
>>> less players
>>> panic
>>> more donkey decisions
>>> less players


2-Check few of the top streamers comments about stack in BB / middle pot in chips (LOL)
about how ridiculous it looks... about the non sense of playing post flop with it (litterally impossible)
about how you look like the last crappy chinese poker room.

They stream on youtube/twitch etc... they are huge influencers on the poker community.... If they **** on you don t expect more players on your platform
Never !
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09-21-2018 , 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by vvtinu
Holy ***** are you serious ?!?! I've just seen the reduced gtd on the 530 1M and came here to ask, and I'm blown away by your response and your attitude that "it was the right thing to do". We should just accept this, or else you cancel it ?! Just wow !!

You've known this for a long time, why didn't you make the adjustments before ? Also what sense does this make, since you've mostly hit your guarantees, except for the first few days (where PS also overlayed, btw).

As Florianger says, a guarantee is not a guarantee anymore on party.

Are you going to put a fine print next time, "guarantee depending on TCOOP / SCOOP / WCOOP" ? This is just ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by nikos ath23
So you prepare and announce your biggest series ever according what other companies you think will do.Other companies change their schedule and your options are cancel the last week (!!!!!!) or reduce gts and cancel some tours (!!!!!).
And players sould say thank you for not canceling last week!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are so so so so so amateurs in everything.
I will be sure to share the feedback with the poker management team for review



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Originally Posted by Rihard4a
The series , still had in total , over $60M GTD - so the banner image is correct


Thanks

Colette
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09-21-2018 , 07:10 AM
The banner shows what PartyPoker promised in GTDs not what the GTDs were after buy-ins made. Now you are just being ignorant.
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09-21-2018 , 08:38 AM
Would it be better to run this 530 1M with massive overlay so that the decision next time will be to reduce any Games grt?

I agree that it sucks, that they changed it within the last week but they have the right to do so, if they are scared not to reached 1kk than it makes sense.
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09-21-2018 , 08:46 AM
it's a disaster, esp. if you read the reason behind it.
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09-21-2018 , 08:49 AM
Hey All,

yesterday I logged in into my Party Account to Play a 109$ MTT. I won a ticket @ 29. August 2018.
I did not find any ticket in my Account and contacted the support.
They told me, the ticket is only available for 14 days. I was in the hospital and had no chance to play earlier.
Is there anything I can do?
I don't like the support of PartyPoker in this case. Why are they available only for 14 days? Why is there no chance to support clients, and send an E-Mail to gve the advice, the ticket will be no longer available?
Why is is not possilbe to reactivate the ticket in this case.

Any idea/support here?

Attached a screenshot of the communication with the chat support.

https://ibb.co/mzNTbe

Many Thanks!
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09-21-2018 , 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by schmette
Would it be better to run this 530 1M with massive overlay so that the decision next time will be to reduce any Games grt?

I agree that it sucks, that they changed it within the last week but they have the right to do so, if they are scared not to reached 1kk than it makes sense.
Sure they have the right to change or cancel everything, as stated in the T&C, but doing so at this time makes them look like amateurs. It's not like they made a typo that they're fixing. Being scared of overlay is not a valid reason for changing a guarantee IMO, this evaluation process needs to take place before announcing the series. At least that's how professionals do it.
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09-21-2018 , 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by vvtinu
Sure they have the right to change or cancel everything, as stated in the T&C, but doing so at this time makes them look like amateurs. It's not like they made a typo that they're fixing. Being scared of overlay is not a valid reason for changing a guarantee IMO, this evaluation process needs to take place before announcing the series. At least that's how professionals do it.
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Originally Posted by florianger
it's a disaster, esp. if you read the reason behind it.

Agree to both, the mistakes was made done some time ago but what should they do now after recognizing this mistake?
Let it run with overlay or correct it?
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09-21-2018 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by schmette
Agree to both, the mistakes was made done some time ago but what should they do now after recognizing this mistake?
Let it run with overlay or correct it?
Party should honor their promise (that's basically what a guarantee is) and, *IF* it overlays, learn from this lesson.

If they fear overlay, they should take preventive actions by adding extra satellites and promoting the tournament. Have you seen the number of sats for yesterday's 25k ? They could just do the same for this one. Add megasats all through the day on Sunday.

On the final Sunday of one of the biggest series of the year, this was supposed to be the one more affordable (relatively, ok) vanilla tournament with a big guarantee. Their $215 is PKO, and the 1k and 5k have a more limited audience. The 530 was a probable target for more people, recs like me, and now they're taking that away.
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09-21-2018 , 09:36 AM
Party have pumped so much cash into overlays and making finland a profitable player with those stupid leaderboards its forgivable that they moved the goal posts on this imo. The timing is shocking though it seems like party only just realised that wcoop isn't on this week! Schedule has been finalised for ages pretty amateur to decide to half the GTD this close to the event.
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09-21-2018 , 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by schmette
Agree to both, the mistakes was made done some time ago but what should they do now after recognizing this mistake?
Let it run with overlay or correct it?
yea...maybe the guy/s who made this mistake should pay the expected overlay (from what i have seen the powerfest runs good-so why the Panic and why Party Need the shadow from pokerstars to organize the own series etc etc- weak,shocking)

seriously: the communication in such cases is very very important...and should be smart.

...i dont Play pokerstars...but I KNEW that wcoop is 2 weeks. only from reading the News...
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09-21-2018 , 10:54 AM
Sorry if it was already answered,what is policy behind Millions Online satellites, first ticket must be played and others PP tournament money or once you win a ticket you are no more allowed to play satellites?
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09-21-2018 , 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by xLAGERTHAx
Why has so much of the MTT schedule now been changed to 200K starting stacks?!

As if there weren't enough negative comments about the 100K SS's as it was, PP decide to go ahead and double them for the majority of the schedule, resulting in 100K SS MTT's now becoming the minority.

No other poker sites I play on have starting stacks anywhere near close to 100K, let alone 200K and the stack sizes when deep in a large field MTT are getting a bit ridiculous IMO.

What's next...500K?

I just don't understand the need for it or what the reasoning could be behind these decisions...

A while ago I felt like the PP schedule was improving and heading in the right direction...now I feel like a lot of that improvement is being undone and the direction has been lost.

I was playing most of my volume on PP a few months ago and now find myself playing more and more elsewhere...says it all really.
just keep changing starting stacks/late reg/format evry week daily without notice
keep shooting in your legs
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09-21-2018 , 01:23 PM
Why DS tourneys have similar 20 seconds time to make decision b4 timebank?
Do we have button clicking contest?
its ok for turbos but not for deepstacks.

You make stacks/structures in every tourney shallower and now you reduce time to make every decision... makes no sense. How should we multi-table?

Who is that smart guy?

edit - glad to see in some MTTs stacks became deeper.

Last edited by user12345; 09-21-2018 at 01:31 PM.
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09-21-2018 , 01:58 PM
when u run mix max and 6max in the same day u have to make share the 6max starts first so u allow ur players to play it all, what happens how is that at some point i may have more than 4 6max running at the same time with is very very hard to deal with
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09-21-2018 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by schmette
Would it be better to run this 530 1M with massive overlay so that the decision next time will be to reduce any Games grt?
Of course it would. Not because of reduced guaranteeds later (well they will reduce them anyways after this) but because it would be right thing to do and we could have bit more trust that Party wouldn't do this kind of thing (again). And as told earlier, there are easy way to prevent / minimize overlay, like offering lots of mega satellites.

Like after this it would be excepted that Party would cut 20M$ guaranteed to 15M$ just before Millions Online day 1s start if they would think it wouldn't even nearly reach 20M$ guaranteed, when people have already satellited their way in.
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09-21-2018 , 03:49 PM
Have you guys considered adding more "novelty" tournaments?

It could be an excellent way for you guys to target Stars that you're not currently applying an it wouldn't take any massive overhauls or additions to your schedule.

I'm talking about adding some different variants of Zoom that Stars schedule is lacking.

I.e a HU PKO Zoom around 10am et in the $15-30 range
a HU PKO zoom around 1:30pm et in the $20-30 range
a 9max PKO zoom around 7pm et in the $25-50 range
a hyper 9max PKO zoom around 9pm et in the $15-30 range

I think adding a mid end and low end ($1-3) one could do very well considering Stars doesn't offer those tournies or anything like them during that time period and there are players like myself that are not currently playing many tournies at Party that would happily jump if they were offered. And I don't think they will impact normal scheduling too much considering that they are relatively different from regular tournaments, but on the bright side they go much quicker and thus actually let people play more or include them into their tight sched.
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09-21-2018 , 03:50 PM
Results of the $25k
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09-21-2018 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 7OAD
Have you guys considered adding more "novelty" tournaments?

I'm talking about adding some different variants of Zoom that Stars schedule is lacking.
My understanding is (could since have changed but, I doubt it considering how slow they are with there tech improvements) that PP's software isn't currently capable of or set-up to be running MTT's on there FF (Fast Forward = equivalent of Zoom) tables.

So, even if the liked the idea, I don't think it's currently even possible.
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09-21-2018 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by xLAGERTHAx
My understanding is (could since have changed but, I doubt it considering how slow they are with there tech improvements) that PP's software isn't currently capable of or set-up to be running MTT's on there FF (Fast Forward = equivalent of Zoom) tables.

So, even if the liked the idea, I don't think it's currently even possible.
That's pretty lame if true, but I thought the software update might've fixed this.
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09-21-2018 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 7OAD
That's pretty lame if true, but I thought the software update might've fixed this.
No, the latest big software release focused on improving the tables (along with a few other smaller changes/improvements).

I have no idea if PP have even considered or given any thought to adding FF MTT's to there offerings but, if something like this was to be implemented at some stage - I doubt it would be anytime soon...
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09-21-2018 , 10:29 PM
after almost 7h a tournament u call "fast" is still running......
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09-22-2018 , 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by WL9700
Hey All,

yesterday I logged in into my Party Account to Play a 109$ MTT. I won a ticket @ 29. August 2018.
I did not find any ticket in my Account and contacted the support.
They told me, the ticket is only available for 14 days. I was in the hospital and had no chance to play earlier.
Is there anything I can do?
I don't like the support of PartyPoker in this case. Why are they available only for 14 days? Why is there no chance to support clients, and send an E-Mail to gve the advice, the ticket will be no longer available?
Why is is not possilbe to reactivate the ticket in this case.

Any idea/support here?

Attached a screenshot of the communication with the chat support.

https://ibb.co/mzNTbe

Many Thanks!
All our tickets have an expiry date
Can you PM myself the username and I can look into your issue and possibly make an exception as a goodwill gesture


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Originally Posted by Cheever L.C
Sorry if it was already answered,what is policy behind Millions Online satellites, first ticket must be played and others PP tournament money or once you win a ticket you are no more allowed to play satellites?
Regarding the Main event, if you win a $5300 seat, subsequent tickets are converted to T$
If you make Day 2, remaining tickets are converted to T$

Regarding sats specifically, all tickets won via sats are for Day1A only, tickets will expire once Day1A has ended and no refunds will be issued for unused tickets


Thanks

Colette
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09-22-2018 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Kelvin Kerber
after almost 7h a tournament u call "fast" is still running......
Fast isn't turbo, fast is the equivalent of pokerstars bigs. Turbo tournaments are labelled as such.
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09-22-2018 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by party_Rep
All our tickets have an expiry date
Can you PM myself the username and I can look into your issue and possibly make an exception as a goodwill gesture

Thank you! Sended you the private message. Hope everything will be fine.
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