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Old 09-18-2018, 04:01 PM   #2426
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

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Regarding feedback I have collated and shared particularly the Mix Max comments, however, feedback is currently mixed (no pun intended) regarding this format
is super easy simple put one day 8 max/ one day mix max one week then change it next week ( for ex monday mix-max first week, tuesday 8max etc/ monday 8 max, tuesday mixmax etc second week)and see how it goes,what people play and make conclusions from that
there a lot of people that dont read forums and even if they read that dont bother to give feedback


the way you are doing it imo is just bad...
you are drastically changing types/format/stack size/lvl time etc for ALL MTTS at once every month or so and when you do that there are only that kind of mtts to be played on party for certain period of time week/month and then you drasticly change it again
you are doing it like that for like 2 years now, almost every month different schedule different type of mtts...
a ton of people on this forum has given feedback that this practice i really bad and you keep doing it...
i am sure that there are a lot of players that are reducing volume (not playing at all) on party because of this stuff (i am very rarely playing mtts on party this days for ex i played in September less then 7% of my volume on party 18 mtts/abi 120$ /while stars i played like 260 MTTS abi 85$)
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Old 09-18-2018, 05:02 PM   #2427
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

Agreed!!
What's the obsession with constantly changing stuff? A stable & varied (not everything 6-max!!!) schedule is all we want. If you are so desperate to make changes let me point you in the direction of all your daily turbos that are raked at 10% ...

About the PKO-Payouts: Don't think its too much of a big deal either way but I agree with your suggestion Schmette - makes sense.
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Old 09-18-2018, 06:34 PM   #2428
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

For some reasons "turbo" tournaments today @ Powerfest were deepstacks. 7 min blinds + smooth structures ~ 20 min blinds.

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Old 09-18-2018, 09:50 PM   #2429
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

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is super easy simple put one day 8 max/ one day mix max one week then change it next week ( for ex monday mix-max first week, tuesday 8max etc/ monday 8 max, tuesday mixmax etc second week)and see how it goes,what people play and make conclusions from that
there a lot of people that dont read forums and even if they read that dont bother to give feedback


the way you are doing it imo is just bad...
you are drastically changing types/format/stack size/lvl time etc for ALL MTTS at once every month or so and when you do that there are only that kind of mtts to be played on party for certain period of time week/month and then you drasticly change it again
you are doing it like that for like 2 years now, almost every month different schedule different type of mtts...
a ton of people on this forum has given feedback that this practice i really bad and you keep doing it...
i am sure that there are a lot of players that are reducing volume (not playing at all) on party because of this stuff (i am very rarely playing mtts on party this days for ex i played in September less then 7% of my volume on party 18 mtts/abi 120$ /while stars i played like 260 MTTS abi 85$)

I confirm the drastic cut in volume on PP ,as in my timezone GMT+7 all is deepstack till 3am...
The worst I see is that even for Europeans they followed the same path
Now it s about 2 or 3 MTT a day on PP

About Mix max, not against it.....but you do it wrong....
THE ISSUE IS YOUR STRUCTURES ANT TIME TO ITM ON ALL YOUR MTTS..... WE ARE NOT AT PP LIVE ! (when people pay hotel and flights so they enjoy to play longer without busting level 2)
Mix max has to be 6max first to accelerate the elimination and reduce time to ITM, then 8 max with less lottery effect at FT bubble (as you refuse to put a 7handed FT)

I don t bother to comment the sats anymore, they are back to the c rap they were 2 years ago....
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Old 09-18-2018, 10:14 PM   #2430
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

I like mix max, but the timing of the switch from 8m to 6m needs to change. As of now, it's switching right on or before the bubble and it's really awkward, esp if you have a short stack.
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Old 09-19-2018, 04:15 AM   #2431
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

as i said - IF MIXMAX - it should start with 6max...and later 8max. makes much more sense, i believe!

OR

Change it more often....every hour or so...this would be not bad, maybe.

AND

less mixmax in generel plz. - i think it should be something Special....maybe 1-3 tournaments per day.
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Old 09-19-2018, 05:42 AM   #2432
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

Why has so much of the MTT schedule now been changed to 200K starting stacks?!

As if there weren't enough negative comments about the 100K SS's as it was, PP decide to go ahead and double them for the majority of the schedule, resulting in 100K SS MTT's now becoming the minority.

No other poker sites I play on have starting stacks anywhere near close to 100K, let alone 200K and the stack sizes when deep in a large field MTT are getting a bit ridiculous IMO.

What's next...500K?

I just don't understand the need for it or what the reasoning could be behind these decisions...

A while ago I felt like the PP schedule was improving and heading in the right direction...now I feel like a lot of that improvement is being undone and the direction has been lost.

I was playing most of my volume on PP a few months ago and now find myself playing more and more elsewhere...says it all really.
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Old 09-19-2018, 06:10 AM   #2433
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Why has so much of the MTT schedule now been changed to 200K starting stacks?!

As if there weren't enough negative comments about the 100K SS's as it was, PP decide to go ahead and double them for the majority of the schedule, resulting in 100K SS MTT's now becoming the minority.

No other poker sites I play on have starting stacks anywhere near close to 100K, let alone 200K and the stack sizes when deep in a large field MTT are getting a bit ridiculous IMO.

What's next...500K?

I just don't understand the need for it or what the reasoning could be behind these decisions...

A while ago I felt like the PP schedule was improving and heading in the right direction...now I feel like a lot of that improvement is being undone and the direction has been lost.

I was playing most of my volume on PP a few months ago and now find myself playing more and more elsewhere...says it all really.
Not that it matters at all but yeah... +1...
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Old 09-19-2018, 08:20 AM   #2434
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For some reasons "turbo" tournaments today @ Powerfest were deepstacks. 7 min blinds + smooth structures ~ 20 min blinds.

Its not a smooth structure my dear.

Lvl 10 is 1,75k/3,5k which is the regular structure.
The smooth structure would be 1,05k/2,1k.

So this 7min are in smooth terms ~4,1Min.
If it would be smooth 7min level it would not be 20min but more like 12min regular Blindlevel.

This exact Game ended aufter 5h 7min which is clearly on Party a turbo-MTT.

Not sure why you would post such misleading informations here.
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Old 09-19-2018, 12:28 PM   #2435
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

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Why has so much of the MTT schedule now been changed to 200K starting stacks?!

As if there weren't enough negative comments about the 100K SS's as it was, PP decide to go ahead and double them for the majority of the schedule, resulting in 100K SS MTT's now becoming the minority.

No other poker sites I play on have starting stacks anywhere near close to 100K, let alone 200K and the stack sizes when deep in a large field MTT are getting a bit ridiculous IMO.

What's next...500K?

I just don't understand the need for it or what the reasoning could be behind these decisions...

A while ago I felt like the PP schedule was improving and heading in the right direction...now I feel like a lot of that improvement is being undone and the direction has been lost.

I was playing most of my volume on PP a few months ago and now find myself playing more and more elsewhere...says it all really.
Wait till the Millions Online come in...
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Old 09-19-2018, 12:54 PM   #2436
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

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Why has so much of the MTT schedule now been changed to 200K starting stacks?!

As if there weren't enough negative comments about the 100K SS's as it was, PP decide to go ahead and double them for the majority of the schedule, resulting in 100K SS MTT's now becoming the minority.

No other poker sites I play on have starting stacks anywhere near close to 100K, let alone 200K and the stack sizes when deep in a large field MTT are getting a bit ridiculous IMO.

What's next...500K?

I just don't understand the need for it or what the reasoning could be behind these decisions...

A while ago I felt like the PP schedule was improving and heading in the right direction...now I feel like a lot of that improvement is being undone and the direction has been lost.

I was playing most of my volume on PP a few months ago and now find myself playing more and more elsewhere...says it all really.
lol this is now completely ridiculous, why increase stacks even further? Would genuinely like an explanation from pads/collete why they are doing this? It is utterly pointless, party are looking like a team of amateurs with this nonsense.
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Old 09-19-2018, 02:22 PM   #2437
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It is utterly pointless, party are looking like a team of amateurs with this nonsense.
Have you just found out today ? lol
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Old 09-19-2018, 05:21 PM   #2438
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

Why this software fold hands before time to act runs out??? Just got my flopped set folded...
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Old 09-19-2018, 05:25 PM   #2439
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Yes pretty sure a couple of hands the other day i was clearly within the time and got folded. Seems like a 2 second difference or something.
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Old 09-20-2018, 03:28 AM   #2440
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What happened to the 530 1m gtd this sunday? Why is it gtd half that much in the client? Dont change guarantees during seies depending on traffic, its highly unethical
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Old 09-20-2018, 03:39 AM   #2441
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What happened to the 530 1m gtd this sunday? Why is it gtd half that much in the client? Dont change guarantees during seies depending on traffic, its highly unethical
Unfortunately, our final week's GTEs were based on us running alongside the final week of WCOOP and rather than cancel the 3rd week we decided to run the full schedule with a relatively small amount of amended tournaments, the above being one such tournament
Apologies for any inconvenience caused

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Old 09-20-2018, 04:02 AM   #2442
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Yes pretty sure a couple of hands the other day i was clearly within the time and got folded. Seems like a 2 second difference or something.

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Why this software fold hands before time to act runs out??? Just got my flopped set folded...
I am unaware of any issues with the time bank
I can, of course, look into it
Would you by chance have any further details to share - hand ID etc?
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Old 09-20-2018, 05:06 AM   #2443
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Unfortunately, our final week's GTEs were based on us running alongside the final week of WCOOP and rather than cancel the 3rd week we decided to run the full schedule with a relatively small amount of amended tournaments, the above being one such tournament
Apologies for any inconvenience caused

Thanks

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Are overall guaranteeds still at least $60M as marketed everywhere?



Interesting that you are still relying so much over PokerStars so you can't even handle one week of Series without them. I thought it should be easier to handle without too much competition (up to 5 series running simultaneously last two weeks) but I guess I was wrong.

Adding lots of satellites and last minute promos as it was well know for many weeks that Stars is just running 2 weeks of WCOOP should've been way to go instead of lowering promised guaranteeds. Or at least lower guaranteeds before Series started.
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Old 09-20-2018, 05:30 AM   #2444
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Are overall guaranteeds still at least $60M as marketed everywhere?



Interesting that you are still relying so much over PokerStars so you can't even handle one week of Series without them. I thought it should be easier to handle without too much competition (up to 5 series running simultaneously last two weeks) but I guess I was wrong.

Adding lots of satellites and last minute promos as it was well know for many weeks that Stars is just running 2 weeks of WCOOP should've been way to go instead of lowering promised guaranteeds. Or at least lower guaranteeds before Series started.

Hi Farseer,

I offered as honest an answer as I could
We have offered multiple promotions throughout Powerfest for our players and our MILLIONS Online promos increase regularly

For example -the MILLIONS Online rake race starting today >
https://www.partypoker.com/millions-...rake-race.html

I understand fully the change is disappointing, however, I believe we can agree a decreased guarantee is better than a cancelled event
Please do accept my apologies for the inconvenience

Thanks

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Old 09-20-2018, 12:28 PM   #2445
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

...wow, sounds no no good, no no good sign etc, everything.

...this tournaments not my league but i have learned something new- gtd is not gtd.


but why im here today esp. bec there's a discussion ab it: 100k starting stack was one Thing..ok. 200k in the main Events..ok (100k is for me the absolut Maximum...but i understand the logic Special Event Special (200k) starting stack)

....BUT

it's no fun to have everywhere 200k Chips...and longer late reg again.....made for late reg,everything. for People who like/work... with this...a rec isplaying from beginn....with this structure it's made for sxxk this People out-my thinking. i dont like that,if so.

i Play at the Moment a powerfest ( i hate the Name powerfest-kindergarden-call it pokerfest or whatever-same with powerseries-find a good Name.) pko with 200k starting stack and a later reg as before- 23 mins played now...and it's no fun- i will not Play it tomorrow with this structure!

sry for the words, ty
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Old 09-20-2018, 03:55 PM   #2446
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Holy ***** are you serious ?!?! I've just seen the reduced gtd on the 530 1M and came here to ask, and I'm blown away by your response and your attitude that "it was the right thing to do". We should just accept this, or else you cancel it ?! Just wow !!

You've known this for a long time, why didn't you make the adjustments before ? Also what sense does this make, since you've mostly hit your guarantees, except for the first few days (where PS also overlayed, btw).

As Florianger says, a guarantee is not a guarantee anymore on party.

Are you going to put a fine print next time, "guarantee depending on TCOOP / SCOOP / WCOOP" ? This is just ridiculous.
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Old 09-20-2018, 05:08 PM   #2447
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So you prepare and announce your biggest series ever according what other companies you think will do.Other companies change their schedule and your options are cancel the last week (!!!!!!) or reduce gts and cancel some tours (!!!!!).
And players sould say thank you for not canceling last week!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are so so so so so amateurs in everything.
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Old 09-20-2018, 05:54 PM   #2448
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in a gap of 8:30h EVERY tournament u are offering in mid-high stakes are either 6max or mix-max (90% 6max)...
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Old 09-20-2018, 06:04 PM   #2449
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Can fully understand/appreciate why people are getting upset over the situation with the $530/$1 Million GTD being slashed in half and the other changes. To be making these sorts of changes at this late stage is really poor on PP's part and there's no way this should be happening IMO.

This isn't just some 'regular schedule MTT' for PP to mess around with as they please (like they currently do with the majority of there MTT's on a daily basis), this is an MTT that is part of PP's major series - a series that has been marketed/advertised for some time now and more importantly, is now already more than 2/3rd's of the way through completion.

This also isn't just about the changes "being an inconvenience", this is about the fact that PP aren't honouring what was marketed/advertised and the reasons/excuses given (along with the situation as a whole) falling well short of what is acceptable in a players mind. It also shows incompetence on PP's part and the person in charge of setting the series up should probably be removed from there position as a result.

This situation (along with all the other ongoing MTT schedule issues), does little in regards to helping install confidence in PP and for a poker site that's trying to get a bigger foothold in the industry/attract more players, your certainly going about it in an unconvincing way IMO.
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