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01-29-2018 , 09:43 PM
The names i mentioned were examples of how i think partypoker should move. There are few people broadcasting poker who arent sponsored and they have great potential. All they need is a little push

Moreover you should understand that everyone has his price and the contracts arent forever
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01-30-2018 , 03:02 AM
Great point about twitch. I usually watch 1-3 days per week for tournament poker in Finnish poker channels, and they have lots of followers. Also most new players seems to come from Twitch, so it's mindblowing that Party is almost completely ignoring this. They do have their own Twitch channel but it has very modest offering and no advertising.

Especially tournament poker with some interesting giveaways seems to gather huge crowds of followers. MPN network also has had leaderboard for those people during their tournament serieses who stream their play on Twitch. Very small amount of money used (and most of that comes back as rake from players streaming) comparing of thousands of people watching.
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01-30-2018 , 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by belthazorrrrr
Hey Patrick/Collette

I am playing in partypoker the last two weeks. I played only in pokerstars the last 4 years because my games werent offered by any site. I switched to mtts now and I was planning to grind in your site regularly. My only experience is in Pokerstars software and how pokerstars operated. I have some suggestions to make

1)

You recently signed Ike Haxton. This is what pokerstars used to do and I dont think it had success. The reasoning to sign a team pro is to gain new players at your site or if you have decent traffic among all stakes attract more recreationals chasing the high stakes dream. In my opinion you should invest to people involving in social media to attract recreationals in your site. Tonka, Veldhuis, Staples or find someone who will actually be fun to watch, sponsor him and broadcast every day. You either need a person who has a fan base to promote your site or a person who will work every day in twich in order to do that. Youtubers / twitchers are the most valuable to promote your site. In tournaments your ability factor is +6 at least on stakes of 55$+ That means your site lacks of recreational players and I cant think a better way to promote a site than what I recommended

2)

When I started playing in pokerstars everyone was saying ''I want to be a supernova elite'' Many people tried many succeed but even more failed. You know what is the trick with Elite? People (both recs and regs) were having something to achieve within a year. Pokerstars gave them a goal. Moreover Pokerstars was clever because they knew if we want to achieve elite we cant really grind in any other sites because elite itself is a huge grind. My recommendation is give something for people to commit in your site. A heavily promoted similar to elite vip would be amazing. Your cashback program is good. The issue is that a rec or even a reg will grind a week take cashback and then look in another site with better promo the next week. But if you have a yearly vip like supernova / supernova elite it will be very hard not to commit

3)

Even though I was planning to grind in party poker mainly, chosing you over your competitors, I read a new post every 2-3 days about botting/collusion/cheating in your platform. Even regs seem to not feel safe playing there and it will be very bad for your reputation if the word about low security standards in party poker is out there. It will move away most recs who already think that something is going on in online poker. Botting/cheating is a universal issue and I think the companies must work together. If a player is banned in pokerstars for cheating why he should allowed playing in partypoker? Share your personal details, check ids and even take legal actions against people. Cheaters damage the company after all. I firmly believe you should work with Pokerstars for this. Not because their security is better but security will radically improve if you share the knowledge on how and who cheated. Not usernames but actual id's must be shared and banned permamently

4)

The mtt filters are pretty bad imo. I unfiltered bounties but there are still there because they are overlapping in some other category. I cant filter speeds neither choose NLH only tournaments. I have to see FLH because it is a holdem game but most important the filters for the buy ins are quite poor. I dont understand why there isnt a custom buy in filter

The positive is that you listen to people. I personally like PSKO and i do think it will attract more recreationals. Regs will whine but they will adjust. That being said variety is important The most important is to bring more recs at the moment. Props to your tournament team who is genuinly try to impove the schedule

I see people protesting about the changes. Everything is trial and error. I can see enough regular games and bounties. Bounties attract more recs because they are more fun to play and ability factor in sharkscope reveals it

Belthazorrrr

edit: i think every hour after 16:00 should have 22-55-109-215 tournaments, even if the latest are low guarantee. I cant imagine a 10k guarantee 215$ with 2 hours late reg re entry either PSKO or normal will not meet the GTD
I responded to this on the other thread - please refer to my response there

Thanks!


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Originally Posted by mecantplay
Tonka is 888 ambassador, Veldhuis and Staples are PS ones.
I wrote to Patrick, but he cant receive a message, so I wrote to Party_Rep this-
While I play poker, I am mostly watching tonkaaaa stream or WarCraft 3 stream at twitch. Do you know that game? It was very popular before years and now on this english cast there are around 3000+ /on sundays/ people watching it. Most of that people have regular jobs, have money and are around 25-35 yo so poker should be interesting to them. Watchers are mostly european, north american and some asian. Players are form Europe, Russia, China and South Korea. I am thinking that Bwin/Parry can support some weakly cup that and receive very nice advertisement. If you think that this is interesting for Bwin/Party, please reach out to
https://twitter.com/back2warcraft

And in the feedback message is this "We will not support online gaming on Twitch as many, many players are under 18 and it goes against responsible gaming regulations". As I was browsing poker section on twitch, I sow russian stream that is PartyPoker sponsored or it looks like it - there was a banners and party in the name.
That cup needs around 500$-2500$ per week imo.

I read your PM and responded - my response was regarding pushing our site on gaming channels which I stand by - this will not happen due to the sheer amount of viewers who are under 18

We have x3 Twitch channels of our own for viewers who wish to watch party poker players and live events -

partypokerTV
PartypokerGermany
PartypokeRussia (both the RU and DE channel are very new!)

These are official channels and we advertise our promotions and offerings on these
We will use these channels to broadcast our Live events throughout the year and we have regular teams maintaining the channel alongside our pros and ambassadors



Quote:
Originally Posted by belthazorrrrr
The names i mentioned were examples of how i think partypoker should move. There are few people broadcasting poker who arent sponsored and they have great potential. All they need is a little push
Moreover you should understand that everyone has his price and the contracts arent forever
Yes there are many broadcasting poker- some do not wish a contract and prefer to stream and support their own channels

We have a team of partners streaming via their own channels in Canada, Russia and Europe who are partnered and push our games and promotions



Quote:
Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
Great point about twitch. I usually watch 1-3 days per week for tournament poker in Finnish poker channels, and they have lots of followers. Also most new players seems to come from Twitch, so it's mindblowing that Party is almost completely ignoring this. They do have their own Twitch channel but it has very modest offering and no advertising.
Especially tournament poker with some interesting giveaways seems to gather huge crowds of followers. MPN network also has had leaderboard for those people during their tournament serieses who stream their play on Twitch. Very small amount of money used (and most of that comes back as rake from players streaming) comparing of thousands of people watching.
We do not wish to support our channel with ads and advertisements - if this is the "advertising" you refer to above
We have our own marketing banners we use and for our viewers, we offer giveaways, freerolls etc
Our streamers all run our banners and as I state above we have partners who also showcase our offerings and regularly bring new players to the site
Similar to our youtube and other marketing channels

Our Big Game revival will provide fantastic content for Twitch - there is a thirst for high stake cash games and the upcoming events planned for 2018 will see the channel grow

In no way is Twitch being ignored- its a marathon, not a sprint Poker is a fairly new market on Twitch however I am confident it will continue to grow over the next few years espc if the Asian poker market grows - Twitch is huge in these territories and opens a whole new ball game in the coming years


Thanks

Colette
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01-30-2018 , 07:05 AM
I lost a nice chunk of EV by sitting out on four tables (one of which was a final table) for ~20 mins because of a bug I assume. Tournaments didnt start after the hourly break.

At first I thought it's the same for everyone because, you know, these unintentional breaks in action happen fairly often on Party. Then I forgot about it (have a bunch of tables on other sites, which are working just fine), and only remembered 15 minutes later that I had a final table going on. Restarted the client and saw that the action had been going on the whole time. The most frustrating thing about this was the answer by Party support; basically just "though ****, check your connection".
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01-30-2018 , 07:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by belthazorrrrr
Hey Patrick/Collette

I am playing in partypoker the last two weeks. I played only in pokerstars the last 4 years because my games werent offered by any site. I switched to mtts now and I was planning to grind in your site regularly. My only experience is in Pokerstars software and how pokerstars operated. I have some suggestions to make

1)

You recently signed Ike Haxton. This is what pokerstars used to do and I dont think it had success. The reasoning to sign a team pro is to gain new players at your site or if you have decent traffic among all stakes attract more recreationals chasing the high stakes dream. In my opinion you should invest to people involving in social media to attract recreationals in your site. Tonka, Veldhuis, Staples or find someone who will actually be fun to watch, sponsor him and broadcast every day. You either need a person who has a fan base to promote your site or a person who will work every day in twich in order to do that. Youtubers / twitchers are the most valuable to promote your site. In tournaments your ability factor is +6 at least on stakes of 55$+ That means your site lacks of recreational players and I cant think a better way to promote a site than what I recommended

2)

When I started playing in pokerstars everyone was saying ''I want to be a supernova elite'' Many people tried many succeed but even more failed. You know what is the trick with Elite? People (both recs and regs) were having something to achieve within a year. Pokerstars gave them a goal. Moreover Pokerstars was clever because they knew if we want to achieve elite we cant really grind in any other sites because elite itself is a huge grind. My recommendation is give something for people to commit in your site. A heavily promoted similar to elite vip would be amazing. Your cashback program is good. The issue is that a rec or even a reg will grind a week take cashback and then look in another site with better promo the next week. But if you have a yearly vip like supernova / supernova elite it will be very hard not to commit

3)

Even though I was planning to grind in party poker mainly, chosing you over your competitors, I read a new post every 2-3 days about botting/collusion/cheating in your platform. Even regs seem to not feel safe playing there and it will be very bad for your reputation if the word about low security standards in party poker is out there. It will move away most recs who already think that something is going on in online poker. Botting/cheating is a universal issue and I think the companies must work together. If a player is banned in pokerstars for cheating why he should allowed playing in partypoker? Share your personal details, check ids and even take legal actions against people. Cheaters damage the company after all. I firmly believe you should work with Pokerstars for this. Not because their security is better but security will radically improve if you share the knowledge on how and who cheated. Not usernames but actual id's must be shared and banned permamently

4)

The mtt filters are pretty bad imo. I unfiltered bounties but there are still there because they are overlapping in some other category. I cant filter speeds neither choose NLH only tournaments. I have to see FLH because it is a holdem game but most important the filters for the buy ins are quite poor. I dont understand why there isnt a custom buy in filter

The positive is that you listen to people. I personally like PSKO and i do think it will attract more recreationals. Regs will whine but they will adjust. That being said variety is important The most important is to bring more recs at the moment. Props to your tournament team who is genuinly try to impove the schedule

I see people protesting about the changes. Everything is trial and error. I can see enough regular games and bounties. Bounties attract more recs because they are more fun to play and ability factor in sharkscope reveals it

Belthazorrrr

edit: i think every hour after 16:00 should have 22-55-109-215 tournaments, even if the latest are low guarantee. I cant imagine a 10k guarantee 215$ with 2 hours late reg re entry either PSKO or normal will not meet the GTD
Very well said sir!!
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01-30-2018 , 08:04 AM
Just give a little bit of everything.
And don't start the changes again.
And make the sattelite tickets general use.
And for god sake update bwin software.It is so bad and a lot of us can't play to party.
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01-30-2018 , 10:22 AM
No expiry on tickets!!
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01-30-2018 , 11:01 AM
Do you plan to add nlo8 mtts to the schedule? On PS it gets bigger fields than plo8 and especially the nlo8 hyper pkos are quite popular.
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01-30-2018 , 01:13 PM
Reported eardleym and liftededge for colluding together a week ago. They're still happily colluding and due a nice payday because of it. Great work party!
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01-30-2018 , 03:33 PM
Will there be no $11-$22 satellites to the $215 Powerfest ME? $44 is a little too steep!
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01-30-2018 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
The new software will hopefully be out on February 5th, but if not will be very soon.

Tomorrow the first "new" schedules will go into the client, they will be "live" from February 5th.
Quote:
Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
just to clarify about the dates, it looks like we will go live Feb 12th.
Is 'Feb 12th' when everything is now going to happen/be implemented or just one of the things you've mentioned as changing?

I don't see any 'new' schedules in the poker client thus far. Could you please clarify further as to what is happening and when?

Eg: When will the new Software update happen, when will the new schedule be in the poker client and when will that new schedule go live?

Ty
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01-30-2018 , 08:56 PM
finally more plo8???
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01-30-2018 , 11:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ontemu
I lost a nice chunk of EV by sitting out on four tables (one of which was a final table) for ~20 mins because of a bug I assume. Tournaments didnt start after the hourly break.

At first I thought it's the same for everyone because, you know, these unintentional breaks in action happen fairly often on Party. Then I forgot about it (have a bunch of tables on other sites, which are working just fine), and only remembered 15 minutes later that I had a final table going on. Restarted the client and saw that the action had been going on the whole time. The most frustrating thing about this was the answer by Party support; basically just "though ****, check your connection".


Had the exact same thing happen to me today, screen name bill kassouf
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01-31-2018 , 03:22 AM
Pretty crazy that Party would refuse to sponsor someone on twitch, literally all of their competitors including America's Cardroom have sponsorship deals with streamers. It's to the point where I don't see Party on literally any of the large streams because they all can't show it due to sponsors. It's almost like you guys actually don't was recreational players to join your site, what with the lack of rake back for infrequent or micro players, poor micro tournament schedules, and an abysmal satellite system that only acts as a feeder system for your higher tournaments instead of all limits like 11 22 and 55.

Last edited by Tilltard; 01-31-2018 at 03:29 AM.
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01-31-2018 , 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by fragglerock45
Reported eardleym and liftededge for colluding together a week ago. They're still happily colluding and due a nice payday because of it. Great work party!
I will follow this up with the risk team


Quote:
Originally Posted by Tilltard
Pretty crazy that Party would refuse to sponsor someone on twitch, literally all of their competitors including America's Cardroom have sponsorship deals with streamers. It's to the point where I don't see Party on literally any of the large streams because they all can't show it due to sponsors. It's almost like you guys actually don't was recreational players to join your site, what with the lack of rake back for infrequent or micro players, poor micro tournament schedules, and an abysmal satellite system that only acts as a feeder system for your higher tournaments instead of all limits like 11 22 and 55.
We have plenty of player agreements on Twitch with Russian, Canadian and European players
Our channel runs almost daily and our focus will be our Live event coverage in 2018
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01-31-2018 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Party_Rep
I will follow this up with the risk team
Thanks Colette - accounts are being investigated and I was thanked for the information I provided but the risk team was not made fully aware of the leaderboard promotion that is running.
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01-31-2018 , 10:11 PM
Please, make main events 2 days events. It will take too long, literally everyone playing ur mains will be playing the sunday milly 10kk, which is 2day. So noone will care about having to play day2 nextday.

I'm not asking you to put 2days events all over the place, but for that week makes so much sense.
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02-01-2018 , 04:13 AM
+1
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02-02-2018 , 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by xLAGERTHAx
Is 'Feb 12th' when everything is now going to happen/be implemented or just one of the things you've mentioned as changing?

I don't see any 'new' schedules in the poker client thus far. Could you please clarify further as to what is happening and when?

Eg: When will the new Software update happen, when will the new schedule be in the poker client and when will that new schedule go live?

Ty
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02-02-2018 , 07:49 AM
Hey, in the new party blog where you announce the new software, schedule, leaderboard..
You saying the new schedule is from 5th March, so its not from Monday 5th February?
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02-02-2018 , 08:20 AM
I think it was planned for Feb 5th which is just really clever - typically traffic dies off big after a series so Party is trying to counter this with a new promotion and software as soon as the series finishes.

Am hoping the leaderboard will be great but not too confident after seeing the latest cash leaderboard:
https://www.partypoker.com/whats-goi...rake-race.html

No.1 raked over $700 at .25/50 cent and under the first day!!
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02-02-2018 , 09:40 AM
https://www.partypoker.com/blog/part...-schedule.html

Official now with dates. KO series is going to run and just finalising the schedule with the bosses now, have had a very constructive couple of days with every single partypoker staff member (including the fabulous Colette!) going through the full vision, the full new software, full new schedule, all the series etc.

Company wanted to make sure the software released has everything fixed, we could have released on Feb 5th with the software I've been using/testing over the last 1-2 weeks but there were a few things like fonts being a bit too small that needed to ensure were made better before launch. I think its reasonable from their side.

March with the new schedule + BIGGER leaderboards + new software is very exciting time.
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02-02-2018 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
https://www.partypoker.com/blog/part...-schedule.html

Official now with dates. KO series is going to run and just finalising the schedule with the bosses now, have had a very constructive couple of days with every single partypoker staff member (including the fabulous Colette!) going through the full vision, the full new software, full new schedule, all the series etc.

Company wanted to make sure the software released has everything fixed, we could have released on Feb 5th with the software I've been using/testing over the last 1-2 weeks but there were a few things like fonts being a bit too small that needed to ensure were made better before launch. I think its reasonable from their side.

March with the new schedule + BIGGER leaderboards + new software is very exciting time.
Nice one - any idea what format the leaderboards will be like? Would like to know soon as possible since one needs good liquidity for the higher stakes. Nice gesture to double the first month after a slight launch delay - not a whole lot of sites seem to be doing that sort of thing.
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02-02-2018 , 10:10 AM
In the software update, will I be able select my bet size and hit "enter" or will that bug still remain?
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02-02-2018 , 10:27 AM
hello,

as allways im sry for my not good english!

sounds good, it seems you are "ALL" "now" at work (im sry for the "now"...plz understand me...-and all respect to colette btw. bec i think she is A+ and has a lot to do with what happen now behind the wall !)
its not important after all the years (im sry ) when, 5feb 12 feb...let it be march...the important thing is that it happens...
and i think its just a good sign that your bosses are involt etc. !
sounds good everything...and good luck for the rest work from me !

best wishes

( a FEW or ONLY ONE 9handed tournament/s per day...with buy in 1,1- maybe 5,5 or let it 10 and i would be very happy...! i know know...but asking is allowed )
-haha maybe you call them "florians"
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