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04-05-2018 , 08:41 AM
PowerFest! Thx Pads, Colette, and Party staff!!!

https://www.partypoker.com/blog/bigg...-20th-may.html
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04-05-2018 , 04:20 PM
Turbos take 3-5 hours.

At the end of the day large field mtts with a half decent structure take a long time. This is not going to change unless they make every mtt a turbo.
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04-05-2018 , 06:24 PM
New buy in levels (7.5, 16, 27.5, 33) are really nice, thanks. Glad to see they got welcomed this way as well, and none of them overlayed.
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04-05-2018 , 06:42 PM
yes, v nice. schedule looks really good now. great job!
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04-05-2018 , 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by LittleGoliath
New buy in levels (7.5, 16, 27.5, 33) are really nice, thanks. Glad to see they got welcomed this way as well, and none of them overlayed.
I just hope there here to stay and not temporary like a lot of other things implemented that, are then removed or changed again a week later.
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04-05-2018 , 09:40 PM
Where did you see the PowerFest schedule? It is still not at the above link. All new thing all can see is that there will be new party/bwin currency for live play earned by online satys.
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04-05-2018 , 09:57 PM
Yep nice job with new buy ins.I like also how now daily major slot buy ins r not the same everyday, like 3pm friday you have $16.50 and $3.30 and saturday 3pm you have $11 and $2.20.

Hope you stick with this schedule now, looks very solid.
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04-05-2018 , 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mecantplay
Where did you see the PowerFest schedule? It is still not at the above link. All new thing all can see is that there will be new party/bwin currency for live play earned by online satys.
Schedule isn't officially out yet...
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04-06-2018 , 07:01 AM
I like what you have done with new buy ins and added more tourneys to make schedule more different. Props to partypoker!
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04-06-2018 , 07:29 AM
new buyins looks much sexier. hope it stays!!!

lets **** ps guys, i feel it coming. few more series like scoop they **** up and u take over, gogogogo.

dont be ashamed to implent things which was very succesfull before on ps...before they killed/****ed up
if no other ways, then do this. rooting for you!
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04-06-2018 , 10:36 AM
new buy ins are great, just sprinkle a few more tournaments around the morning and i will be a very happy bunny
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04-06-2018 , 10:58 AM
new buy ins are a great addition, thanks. I still think there needs to be more mtts in-between the hour slots, waiting an hour each time is no fun and is the sole reason i am not playing on the site. I really don't want to reg 1-2 mtts at 5pm and by 7pm i am only on my 4th tourney of the night, its too long sessions for how little games we can play.

Is there a way to hide these new satellites from the main lobby? obv you have to promote them but the lobby looks cluttered with them.
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04-06-2018 , 03:45 PM
Used a ticket to register for the $215 Sunday Bounty Hunter. This has just been removed from schedule and obviously no ticket refunded. Spoke with live chat who obviously wouldn't refund me with my ticket. After much arguing managed to get the issue escalated to the 'relevant department' so should now get a response on what should be a trivial instant refund within 72 hours ...

Always the same delightful customer service that puts its customers on tilt ...
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04-06-2018 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
Hey guys

There have been changes over the last 1-2 years that IMO are industry defining and the progress of the MTT part of the site from 2016 to now is more than any of us could have imagined. However there is changes happening in the next couple of months that will be the biggest of all time IMO. We're working very hard for the players behind the scenes here and I'm sure all (well 99% ) will be very happy to hear about them. More news coming very soon about them.
I know you're done with this thread but I'm going to reply to this anyway. Idiots are always going to be idiots and reading this topic gives me headaches too, but there are some legit things going on as well.

First off, to be fair, with the latest updates the current schedule is in a pretty good spot. But the other 11-23 months it was random change after random change and no clear uptrend, and "industry defining" is just bonkers. The reason party grew is because of overlays, 888 didn't improve at all, pokerstars got worse and party was the least bad spot to go to if you were sick of Amaya. I think very few people who don't work at party will disagree with me when I say "In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king" is a much more accurate description of party's rise in market share.

100bb starting stacks and 8-handed as a default are nice. Is that what you mean by industry defining? Ok, maybe a little bit. 100k starting stacks and "smooth" structures are ridiculous and unnecessary but sort of no harm no foul, just because I dislike them doesn't mean they're bad. 2050/4100 blind level though. Your normal structures are already smooth. Just max confusion with no upside.

Anyway. The software is absolutely in a better spot than 2 years ago, but it's improved at a rate that seems extremely normal to me. Perhaps slightly below what I'd expect. How are there not remotely functional filters, for example? Party's software was as miserable as 888's two years ago, 888 and stars didn't move and you improved some things so party gained relatively speaking. But if I compare it to stars software it's maybe at the 2011 level now? Not sure. Whatever the number is, eons ago. Full tilt that's been gone for many years was absolutely better too. Considering the amount of money being wagered it's just mind-boggling. But, again, Party is doing better than their competitors recently. The software has at least risen to a level where it's not a major main in the ass anymore. But it's a very long stretch from something to be proud of.

Everything I've seen leads me to believe leaderboards and security are an absolute trainwreck. All the money seems to go to people who do nothing but play online poker and cheaters.

The new schedule is just a solid uncreative schedule with nice guarantees, which is totally fine and probably the way to go. But you're acting like you re-invented the wheel. Making people happy is to not have them have high expectations and then to do well. Even in your last post you mention some stuff is going to come up that you're "sure 99% of people will be very happy to hear about". You can't both truly believe that and be quitting this thread because of too much negativity, these things directly contradict each other. I'm not saying you can't be excited, but throw some realism and modesty in there. Unless Party will fix all the issues above, end world hunger and cure cancer in the next few months, I don't think 99% of people will be very happy.

Last edited by Soepgroente; 04-06-2018 at 05:17 PM.
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04-06-2018 , 07:55 PM
agree heavily with soepgroente on all points

get 6max hyper sats going for powerfest at least. i helped the .fr/.es team with their sng sat offerings for their SCOOP series and it's gone really well. ill see who i should contact on this and see if this time you guys will listen to me
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04-06-2018 , 08:55 PM
Hey mate,

I think its very unfair to say that our site is where it is at now because of overlays or because of other sites incompetence. There are plenty of sites out there trying. You can say we budgeted well as one of the small reasons perhaps, remember 2 years ago:

- 90k in guarantees/day
- 300k on Sundays
- 2M powerfest

Now:

- $10-11m / week
- $1.5m in satalites alone
- $40m powerfest

If it was just down to an overlay here or there then every site would do so.

In terms of changes there is a lot of them, I don't want to go into self praise or say everything is perfect. About the schedule being "solid" thats what we wanted. Not gimmicks, lots of small gte 4 max and random win the buttons with low runners etc. We wanted quality tournaments throughout peak and to keep improving them constantly i.e shorten clocks, ammend structures etc.

But most importantly I think which has nothing to do with structures or anything else is trying to bring back the player who likes poker but may not win. Bob from the casino, Jamie the ex $22 mtt grinder who gave up the dream. We put a lot of time and effort in getting all of these people to like poker again, and for the live guys to like online poker again. There was a great gentleman who played the $0.01 sats, won a feeder, then a feeder and then ended up cashing for over $150,000! He will tell all of his friends in their local poker clubs all over Ireland, his friends and family etc and maybe from that one guy we can get 20+ people wanting to get a piece of the dream too. People gave up on poker booms and Moneymaker effects. I don't think there will be another Chris Moneymaker unfortunately, but if we can make 1000 mini Moneymakers who all get 20 friends to play on the site too then that makes the site bigger than we could ever imagine.

But you know what it doesn't work without? You guys. 1) You guys playing on the site and supporting it, most of you were playing 12-18 months ago when we asked you to give us one more chance, many of you kept playing when the site crashed and when it would have been easy to play somewhere else and 2) For always giving feedback and putting pressure on. Sure there is times people went across the line IMO, and I'm sure I did too! But busting my balls and making sure that we kept our word for our promises was very important. Maybe it would have taken longer to put more mixed games in powerfests, maybe it would have taken longer to make tournaments finish quicker, maybe it would have taken longer to get more variation on buy ins, maybe it would have taken longer for the... Oops nearly spilled it.! So again, just wanted to say sorry if I didn't sound appreciative in my last post, maybe I was a little bit tilted or something, I'm human sorry, but without you guys the site definitely wouldn't be where it is now for lots of reasons. Keep busting peoples balls, its good!

In terms of 99% of people being happy, I meant that the next change I don't think anybody except 1-2 people on the whole site won't be ecstatic about the news. Looking forward to Colette telling you all ASAP!
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04-06-2018 , 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Gooner933
Used a ticket to register for the $215 Sunday Bounty Hunter. This has just been removed from schedule and obviously no ticket refunded. Spoke with live chat who obviously wouldn't refund me with my ticket. After much arguing managed to get the issue escalated to the 'relevant department' so should now get a response on what should be a trivial instant refund within 72 hours ...

Always the same delightful customer service that puts its customers on tilt ...
Pleasantly surprised to say this has been sorted within 12 hours. TY Party.

Re. the above: whilst there are still areas for improvement, there is no denying how far Party have come in recent times. Keep it up!
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04-07-2018 , 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Soepgroente
I know you're done with this thread but I'm going to reply to this anyway. Idiots are always going to be idiots and reading this topic gives me headaches too, but there are some legit things going on as well.

First off, to be fair, with the latest updates the current schedule is in a pretty good spot. But the other 11-23 months it was random change after random change and no clear uptrend, and "industry defining" is just bonkers. The reason party grew is because of overlays, 888 didn't improve at all, pokerstars got worse and party was the least bad spot to go to if you were sick of Amaya. I think very few people who don't work at party will disagree with me when I say "In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king" is a much more accurate description of party's rise in market share.

100bb starting stacks and 8-handed as a default are nice. Is that what you mean by industry defining? Ok, maybe a little bit. 100k starting stacks and "smooth" structures are ridiculous and unnecessary but sort of no harm no foul, just because I dislike them doesn't mean they're bad. 2050/4100 blind level though. Your normal structures are already smooth. Just max confusion with no upside.

Anyway. The software is absolutely in a better spot than 2 years ago, but it's improved at a rate that seems extremely normal to me. Perhaps slightly below what I'd expect. How are there not remotely functional filters, for example? Party's software was as miserable as 888's two years ago, 888 and stars didn't move and you improved some things so party gained relatively speaking. But if I compare it to stars software it's maybe at the 2011 level now? Not sure. Whatever the number is, eons ago. Full tilt that's been gone for many years was absolutely better too. Considering the amount of money being wagered it's just mind-boggling. But, again, Party is doing better than their competitors recently. The software has at least risen to a level where it's not a major main in the ass anymore. But it's a very long stretch from something to be proud of.

Everything I've seen leads me to believe leaderboards and security are an absolute trainwreck. All the money seems to go to people who do nothing but play online poker and cheaters.

The new schedule is just a solid uncreative schedule with nice guarantees, which is totally fine and probably the way to go. But you're acting like you re-invented the wheel. Making people happy is to not have them have high expectations and then to do well. Even in your last post you mention some stuff is going to come up that you're "sure 99% of people will be very happy to hear about". You can't both truly believe that and be quitting this thread because of too much negativity, these things directly contradict each other. I'm not saying you can't be excited, but throw some realism and modesty in there. Unless Party will fix all the issues above, end world hunger and cure cancer in the next few months, I don't think 99% of people will be very happy.
Amazing post, a lot is said there and all true, even most of the readers here will throw you a stone again for the sake god moron positivity ( they watched to much Jeff gross). Ready looking at the efforts/money and bragging the result is far from WOW. It s always the same speech, wait guys this time it s minor but next change is the one :
Smooth doesn t bring anything (+100), if you play correctly you constantly count yr stack in BB so that should be more urgent to give the software this option that try to tric a 100k structure already deep.
Well, who really buy that now, having still 2 tourney per hour to play ? Wait and see as always. More could be said about the terrible shape of cash game but it s off topic
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04-07-2018 , 03:35 AM
They new different buy-ins are great, but we simply need more tournaments. I am disgusted with Stars and don't want to play there, but currently there aren't enough MTTs in Party (2-3 per hour). Please add more NLH MTTs at past half the hour.
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04-07-2018 , 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
Hey mate,

I think its very unfair to say that our site is where it is at now because of overlays or because of other sites incompetence. There are plenty of sites out there trying. You can say we budgeted well as one of the small reasons perhaps, remember 2 years ago:

- 90k in guarantees/day
- 300k on Sundays
- 2M powerfest

Now:

- $10-11m / week
- $1.5m in satalites alone
- $40m powerfest

If it was just down to an overlay here or there then every site would do so.

In terms of changes there is a lot of them, I don't want to go into self praise or say everything is perfect. About the schedule being "solid" thats what we wanted. Not gimmicks, lots of small gte 4 max and random win the buttons with low runners etc. We wanted quality tournaments throughout peak and to keep improving them constantly i.e shorten clocks, ammend structures etc.
Yeah I mean I don't think I was being unfair in this regard. I acknowledged that the schedule since march 5th with all the initial wrinkles being ironed out is great. But the majority of improvement in the last 2 years in this regard happened in the last 2 months. While there has very obviously been real growth, you're misrepresenting the data here to paint an overly optimistic picture. If you say powerfest went from 2M to 40M it seems like you're trying to imply it blew up and grew 20x. I say you added a 25k, a bunch of 5ks and greatly increased the number of tournaments in the series in general. Fields definitely got bigger and it's a lot to be excited about, but save the ZOMG FORTY MILLION for email/twitter advertising. And yeah, some other sites try, but they're not a realistic threat for now. 888 and stars dropped the ball and something like winamax's player pool is strongly limited to a bunch of EU countries.

Again, my general sentiment with party is currently positive, but I can't blindly jump on your hype train when there's still so much basic stuff that's a mess. Two things I didn't mention in the previous post: 40% rakeback is nice, but for someone who only plays a tournament once in a while the old system was better than 0-20% rakeback. As a mostly low-mid stakes mtt player I made less rakeback since the switch than the points that were taken off were worth before the switch. Cash games are scary, as far as I understand it you can't run a hud without some special program. I feel very pessimistic about how well bots are caught in this system, plus the rules are very confusing and if you don't know exactly what's up you're at an immediate disadvantage so large you almost cannot overcome with skill. Neither of these are particularly mtt-related, but they do contribute to the overall feeling of the site.

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But most importantly I think which has nothing to do with structures or anything else is trying to bring back the player who likes poker but may not win. Bob from the casino, Jamie the ex $22 mtt grinder who gave up the dream. We put a lot of time and effort in getting all of these people to like poker again, and for the live guys to like online poker again. There was a great gentleman who played the $0.01 sats, won a feeder, then a feeder and then ended up cashing for over $150,000! He will tell all of his friends in their local poker clubs all over Ireland, his friends and family etc and maybe from that one guy we can get 20+ people wanting to get a piece of the dream too. People gave up on poker booms and Moneymaker effects. I don't think there will be another Chris Moneymaker unfortunately, but if we can make 1000 mini Moneymakers who all get 20 friends to play on the site too then that makes the site bigger than we could ever imagine.
I'm not sure how Party is doing anything specific in this regard, but, sure. The new satties are cool and as long as they're soft and/or overlaying I'll be happy to take some shots if I win tickets. Maybe take this opportunity to be the new industry leader and put a small (15-25%?) of the prizepool towards bounties so the bubble doesn't last for ages and bigstacks do their duty. Will eliminate a lot of softplaying/collusion/stalling that's always going on in satellites. In general it feels like Party caters more for the grinder than the recreational, though it's a bit better now than a while ago.

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But you know what it doesn't work without? You guys. 1) You guys playing on the site and supporting it, most of you were playing 12-18 months ago when we asked you to give us one more chance, many of you kept playing when the site crashed and when it would have been easy to play somewhere else and 2) For always giving feedback and putting pressure on. Sure there is times people went across the line IMO, and I'm sure I did too! But busting my balls and making sure that we kept our word for our promises was very important. Maybe it would have taken longer to put more mixed games in powerfests, maybe it would have taken longer to make tournaments finish quicker, maybe it would have taken longer to get more variation on buy ins, maybe it would have taken longer for the... Oops nearly spilled it.! So again, just wanted to say sorry if I didn't sound appreciative in my last post, maybe I was a little bit tilted or something, I'm human sorry, but without you guys the site definitely wouldn't be where it is now for lots of reasons. Keep busting peoples balls, its good!
I always hope my posts come across as a more well constructed set of criticisms than some of the other gibber-gabber I see. Not sure about busting balls, but I try to call a spade a spade whenever I can. I don't post extremely actively right now, but I do vote Party with my wallet. It's not a big wallet anymore because I'm not a professional poker player anymore, but hey, it's something. With the stars lowstakes rake disaster I'm giving them the middle finger and I just can't be arsed with 888 software, so you're the only global site currently getting my action.

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In terms of 99% of people being happy, I meant that the next change I don't think anybody except 1-2 people on the whole site won't be ecstatic about the news. Looking forward to Colette telling you all ASAP!
Really sticking with the super polarised excitement huh? Well, I'm always skeptical but will happily be proven wrong.

Last edited by Soepgroente; 04-07-2018 at 06:28 AM.
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04-07-2018 , 06:23 AM
Last couple posts have been a nice change of pace itt, how bout we all try and bring back posts that are constructive to the improvement of the site like these, gg soep I mostly agree. Also happy to see pads unretire from this Thread
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04-07-2018 , 11:23 AM
What about Sopegroentes comment about all pros winning the packages?- Pads said the leaderboard would give recs a chance - they don't have any chance. Bob from the casino is gettig rekt by the Russians!
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04-07-2018 , 12:37 PM
There is no way i can cash this out? this would be huge for my bankroll!
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04-07-2018 , 12:58 PM
I'll ask again, any chance of Zoom mtts or even headsup/headsup zoom MTTs like Stars offers?

If you want people to be able to play quick/fun poker those formats are the best for that. You can even have "turbo" zooms with 3 minute blind levels where the tourny will likely be done within the hour, but people will play way more hands.
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04-07-2018 , 03:40 PM
Did anyone else notice how the monesterFest is exactly below the HR leaderboard. $33 highest buy in. I wonder why, whats the reason behind this. Not thinking its shady, just really odd based on market strategy.
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