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Old 09-22-2018, 07:27 PM   #2476
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

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Fast isn't turbo, fast is the equivalent of pokerstars bigs. Turbo tournaments are labelled as such.
i understand a turbo will be over in like 4h, so a "fast" tournament should last 8, let's say 6 would be a decent time if u r calling something fast

the bounty162 at stars usually takes this long for example
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Old 09-23-2018, 02:49 AM   #2477
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

morning,

to the reduced tournaments i Need to say something bec the "Feedback" from us/me was "so angry"

i have seen now, there are still 2 (if i correct) tournaments with 1 Million gtd left...and the rest of the schedule Looks very good too.

but the reason for the reduce ,or better said the words wcoop, pokerstars etc....i would say something different, next time.
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Old 09-23-2018, 06:50 PM   #2478
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

Congratulations PP on wrecking the MTT schedule even more for micro/low stakes players by completely removing a buy-in level (all $3.30 regular schedule games gone after Powerfest finishes).

The majority of games in the schedule at micros are now going to either be $1.10 or $5.50, with only a few $2.20 games thrown in.

Gone are a number of games, including the daily $3.30 'main event' and the daily $3.30 "Americas main event', both being replaced with $1.10 and $2.20 games (with drastically reduced GTD's) respectively.

Tons and tons of players in these threads asked PP to add more buy-in levels in order to reduce the big jumps between buy-ins and help attract more players, which PP did. Now (after it proved to be a successful move), you all of a sudden remove them again and take us back to how things looked and we're 10-12 mths ago?!

In the last couple of weeks alone, PP have changed the majority of games to Mix-max, increased starting stacks to 200K (despite the majority of players comments already being against 100k) and now followed these changes up by removing an entire buy-in level (despite players not wanting big jumps between buy-ins and asking you to add those extra buy-in levels in the first place).

Why is is that PP keep taking 1 step forward and then 2 steps backwards when it comes to there MTT schedule decisions?!
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Old 09-23-2018, 09:02 PM   #2479
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

200bb starting stack in bounty tournaments make no sense. For instance, I played today $1.5 powerfest PKO event and finished 21st after 9 hours of play earning 14usd ($7 from regular prize pool, $7 from bounties). This tournament is already ruuning for 11 hours and 7 players are left. Do you think it is reasonable structure for micro players?

I think bounty tournaments, fast tourneys and power turbos should not have starting stacks larger than 100bb. You can throw in some deep stacks but please don't mix them with PKOs.
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Old 09-23-2018, 09:04 PM   #2480
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Congratulations PP on wrecking the MTT schedule even more for micro/low stakes players by completely removing a buy-in level (all $3.30 regular schedule games gone after Powerfest finishes).

The majority of games in the schedule at micros are now going to either be $1.10 or $5.50, with only a few $2.20 games thrown in.

Gone are a number of games, including the daily $3.30 'main event' and the daily $3.30 "Americas main event', both being replaced with $1.10 and $2.20 games (with drastically reduced GTD's) respectively.

Tons and tons of players in these threads asked PP to add more buy-in levels in order to reduce the big jumps between buy-ins and help attract more players, which PP did. Now (after it proved to be a successful move), you all of a sudden remove them again and take us back to how things looked and we're 10-12 mths ago?!

In the last couple of weeks alone, PP have changed the majority of games to Mix-max, increased starting stacks to 200K (despite the majority of players comments already being against 100k) and now followed these changes up by removing an entire buy-in level (despite players not wanting big jumps between buy-ins and asking you to add those extra buy-in levels in the first place).

Why is is that PP keep taking 1 step forward and then 2 steps backwards when it comes to there MTT schedule decisions?!
+1 for $3.3 MTTs.
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Old 09-23-2018, 09:09 PM   #2481
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I am unaware of any issues with the time bank
I can, of course, look into it
Would you by chance have any further details to share - hand ID etc?
It happens every hand. It folds before indicator for time to act runs out.

Also 20 seconds to act preflop is way too low imo especially when you have almost all of your's tournaments 6-Max or Mix-Max.
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Old 09-23-2018, 09:56 PM   #2482
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

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Like after this it would be excepted that Party would cut 20M$ guaranteed to 15M$ just before Millions Online day 1s start if they would think it wouldn't even nearly reach 20M$ guaranteed, when people have already satellited their way in.


Not sure i d ever thought I’d agree with a post of yours but lol this is so spot on. That 5k given this past week has lost all of its attraction to me now
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Old 09-23-2018, 10:45 PM   #2483
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Unfortunately, our final week's GTEs were based on us running alongside the final week of WCOOP and rather than cancel the 3rd week we decided to run the full schedule with a relatively small amount of amended tournaments, the above being one such tournament
Apologies for any inconvenience caused

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this is exactly what happens when your decisions are made by a kid like patrick leonard.
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Old 09-24-2018, 01:14 AM   #2484
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

Why are 90% of the new (post-powerfest) schedule 6-max or mix-max?

Why are 100% of satellites 6-max?

Is it not possible to play a normal 8/9-handed mtt on PartyPoker anymore?

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Old 09-24-2018, 01:58 AM   #2485
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

I think 200bb starting stacks are way too small, lets try 500bb maybe?
Also with 500bb SS the late reg will be like 4-5 hours --> bigger gtds
Also pls get rid of all non pko mtts, nobody likes them anyway
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Old 09-24-2018, 02:38 AM   #2486
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I think 200bb starting stacks are way too small, lets try 500bb maybe?
Also with 500bb SS the late reg will be like 4-5 hours --> bigger gtds
Also pls get rid of all non pko mtts, nobody likes them anyway
1000000BB special is coming
Smooth-Deep-PKO-6MAX-50levels late reg (all this uncompatible of course)


Well we joke about the 200K SS in March, so everything can happen with their 'million' promos..... hum
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Old 09-24-2018, 02:41 AM   #2487
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200bb starting stack in bounty tournaments make no sense. For instance, I played today $1.5 powerfest PKO event and finished 21st after 9 hours of play earning 14usd ($7 from regular prize pool, $7 from bounties). This tournament is already ruuning for 11 hours and 7 players are left. Do you think it is reasonable structure for micro players?

I think bounty tournaments, fast tourneys and power turbos should not have starting stacks larger than 100bb. You can throw in some deep stacks but please don't mix them with PKOs.
6 months we say the same !
it s a dead battle mate...............
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Old 09-24-2018, 03:18 AM   #2488
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

And pls pls pls for the love of god DO NOT even consider making ANY Phase or 2-day tournaments, NOBODY will play them
I wont even start talking about the satellites, they are SO GOOD right now, I play like 0 (ZERO) of them per month
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Old 09-24-2018, 06:15 AM   #2489
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

hello,

so many mini buy in tournamnets now- why? bec you think new micro Players will join or what is the reason? if so -it will not work! you have NO reward Programm or something like that for micro Players....other sites ,have.!

no 3,3 tournaments anymore- pfft!

mini bounty hunters with 1,1 buy in- pfft! if you ask me the Minimum buy in for a pko should be 2,2!

200k starting stacks...hours of late reg- i will not Play them anymore! ! !if i see 200k starting stack i will direct Close the Lobby ! ! !

main Events starting time is now 1 hour later (with if you ask me-disaster structure) - i think it would be logic to start the main Events in the summer later-and in the winter earlier....I THINK.but it's only me.

micro schedule...i dont know what to Play anymore/at the moment!

interesting one: i got a 1,1 ticket for the bigbountyhunter 2,5k gtd (will not Play bec it's to late-the structure is sick- and the 1,1 buy in for a bounty game is not enough.(if you ask me) )...but the interesting Thing in the mail was the other text,something like: we will Change the mtt schedule/structure etc every day...so it will never boring. and this is/was ~ what bwinparty at the beginn YEARS ago was saying/telling...if correct remember -it was a interview which i was reading- Waters or teufelberger...if i correct remember..so they do what they have saying.

now it's time to Change the strategy....and 9handed back please.

the structure /starting stacks etc become strange/absurd! if it's done for the stables...for late reg....i understand the logic....which not means i like it!
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Old 09-24-2018, 07:11 AM   #2490
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200k starting stacks...hours of late reg- i will not Play them anymore! ! !if i see 200k starting stack

late reg 2hrs is the only way....u still have 30bb.... but u cut half the options as it s not profitable on bountys......

other way = Cent roll > 5.5sat > 22sat > 109 ticket > 109 event bounty turbo (if u get cards they can exploit u less than in a deep bul.....)
from 1$ build 500$ or more, but u need to get lucky many times at a row in the donk huper sats....

the micro stakes direct buy in are a non sense to increase a bankroll as it takes way to long to get ITM, average money per hour played is ridicusly low and not enough at time to multi table.....it s worse and worse
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Old 09-24-2018, 08:31 AM   #2491
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

Regarding the feedback offered above, I have collated all info and shared with the poker team for review and consideration

To note, I am happy to confirm we have supersized our regular Power series schedule - boosting our guarantees across multiple events and offering even more action at prime time (5pm -8pm UK) following player feedback

Our new Big Bounty Hunters offer great action with massive guarantees daily, enhanced structures and no rake bounties!
Buy-ins start from just $0.22 .> $530
Check out the new guarantees in the image below

Good luck at the tables!

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Old 09-24-2018, 10:05 AM   #2492
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

I dont believe any changes are based on player feedback
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Old 09-24-2018, 10:13 AM   #2493
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

good running micro tournaments -GONE
deep Point!
unbeliveble!

i start thinking there's ~ a trojan horse at a important Position.
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Old 09-24-2018, 10:14 AM   #2494
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good running micro tournaments -GONE
deep Point!
unbeliveble!
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Old 09-24-2018, 11:09 AM   #2495
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200bb starting stack in bounty tournaments make no sense. For instance, I played today $1.5 powerfest PKO event and finished 21st after 9 hours of play earning 14usd ($7 from regular prize pool, $7 from bounties). This tournament is already ruuning for 11 hours and 7 players are left. Do you think it is reasonable structure for micro players?

I think bounty tournaments, fast tourneys and power turbos should not have starting stacks larger than 100bb. You can throw in some deep stacks but please don't mix them with PKOs.
iirc pads himself said in this thread that bounty tournaments shouldn't be deepstacked nor have slow structures.
Well, now every PKO has a 200k starting stack
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Old 09-24-2018, 12:44 PM   #2496
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

Hello, could you please consider lowering rake for PartyLive satellites?
They are often hypers with a full rake on it like 20+2 or 100+9.
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Old 09-24-2018, 03:14 PM   #2497
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Re: Official partypoker/bwin 2.0 MTT Discussion Thread

The new BIG Bounty hunters are very good additions. However, I agree the 100bb starting stacks were better.

Also, the marketing seems pretty meagre tbh. I m following twitter and 2p2 daily and have only found out about these new additions last minute. Not a specialist by any means, but seems obvious that you could attract considerably more players with early advertising. You could have even used these new tournaments to entice players to keep playing after powerfest ended.

Maybe with future schedule boosts you consider earlier advertising. Just my 2cents.
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Old 09-24-2018, 04:51 PM   #2498
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I also preferred 100bb starting stacks.
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Old 09-24-2018, 07:04 PM   #2499
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Regarding the feedback offered above, I have collated all info and shared with the poker team for review and consideration

To note, I am happy to confirm we have supersized our regular Power series schedule - boosting our guarantees across multiple events and offering even more action at prime time (5pm -8pm UK) following player feedback

Our new Big Bounty Hunters offer great action with massive guarantees daily, enhanced structures and no rake bounties!
Buy-ins start from just $0.22 .> $530
Check out the new guarantees in the image below

Good luck at the tables!

So, PP have "supersized the schedule", "boosting GTD'S" and are "offering even more action"'...

I say that from where i'm sitting, that simply isn't a fair representation of what PP has actually done.

What I see that PP has actually done is remove a number of games, along with various buy-in levels from the schedule and added the money from those to the games that now remain.

Take the bounty builders for example: Instead of offering 'x' amount of games at various buy-in levels and with reasonable GTD'S for each, PP have simply reduced 'x' and condensed all the games/GTD's on offer, resulting in giving the false impression that the games we now see are massive, when in fact they are just a combination of games reduced to make a few big ones.

If PP are offering even more action now as stated, then why is it that I have even less to play now than I did before these changes?!

Once again we are back to having big jumps between buy-in levels and if PP's idea of offering more action is by way of removing various buy-in levels and therefore reducing the options available for players at various bankroll levels...then all I can do is shake my head and laugh.

You maybe happy to confirm the above announcement as stated Colette (I know your just doing your job and aren't actually the person behind making these decisions) but, for the record, i'm not happy with it and i'm the one who actually plays on the site or should I say 'played' on the site. I say that because there's so little for me to play now or that I wan't to play now (PP have now removed my main buy-in level and i'm not a fan of 200k starting stacks or having to play for multiple hours just to make a couple of $) that, PP will now be seeing less of my money/rake and other poker sites will be seeing more of it.

Sad, considering I moved to PP at the end of last year with the intention of PP becoming my main poker site of choice. I saw positive changes being made and the site heading in the right direction. Now I see a lot of that early good work being undone and view PP as having lost it's way when it comes to the MTT side of things (which is the main reason for my being on the site). Speaking with a number of other players, i'm not the only one who feels this way...
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Old 09-24-2018, 07:17 PM   #2500
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I dont believe any changes are based on player feedback
We'll the changes aren't being made based on any feedback in these threads - put it that way.

PP are for the most part doing the opposite to what the majority are saying here, hence why some players are now starting to say that posting feedback is becoming pointless...
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