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02-08-2019 , 03:01 PM
I know I know. Everybody deals with them, I'm not special nor alone.

I recently started playing online low stakes MTTs with my highest BI being $10.

I have roughly 200 under my belt, with with mixed results

I feel like I have had more than my fair shair(who doesn't, right)of brutal, soul crushing beats, late in tourneys that would put me in good position to make deep runs. I usually only play one table at a time since I'm trying to really learn, and I feel like it shouldn't be happening at this high of a rate on such a small sample size.

In the past a few days I have:

Got it AIP with QQvsAQ with 14 left for a top 3 stack, he four card flushed.

Shoved turn with KQcc on a Ac8c3d8h, with a good read he didnt have a strong hand. he calls with 56cc and hits 6 on the river. Deep in tourney.

Got it all in on the turn with 77 on a 7299r board, player has 9To and rivers the T.

And last night, the one that tipped the scale for me happened when I was in position 120 of 300 of a $12.5KGTD with decent payouts after the registration period and players were dropping like flies. 199 Places Paid.

I have 125K with Bb at 3.5K and open from MP to 9K with AA. SB and BB(116K) call. Flop 2s3sKh SB checks BB leads for 25K I raise to 65K and he snap shoves and I call. He has K8o and I have him crushed, poised for a near double up and top 20 stack, only to see an 8 on the turn.

I know, variance. Now please tell me how to look at this the right way, as I honestly love playing these tourneys, but this stuff stings.
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02-08-2019 , 03:10 PM
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02-08-2019 , 03:52 PM
Haha thats part of poker, you know variance but playing only 1 table ? it happens every day to me thats normal and you have to accept that or stop playing poker

Maybe read the Jared Tendler Book about mindset and bad beats etc, it was a great help for me
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02-08-2019 , 04:38 PM
Post this in Beats Brags and Variance for better results
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02-08-2019 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeajax15
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02-08-2019 , 06:39 PM
OP it's just the nature of the game I'm afraid, and you will definitely see far far sicker hands than the ones you mentioned!

For MTTs 200 games is literally nothing. Best player in the world can easily lose solidly over that sample or the worst player you've ever encountered can have a huge heater.


Put in some volume and stick at it
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02-08-2019 , 10:33 PM
play more tables/ sessions. Sounds counterintuitive wrt learning aspect but no way you will actually miss things playing for example two tables vs one but u literally double your volume which is massive for training your subconscious to not having to make posts like this (you get used to stuff like this happening literally all the time to the point where you stop caring and focus your mental energy on actually interesting things (like should you raise aces on the flop vs the lead or should you really jam KQ on that specific turn))

What you are doing is forcing yourself to be emotionally invested in that one table which is detrimental to just about everything you want to achieve longterm in poker

Good luck and peace
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02-10-2019 , 12:51 PM
15 tabling 12/180s really helped my mindset with this stuff, I would bust tournaments left and right and not even watch the runouts/have no idea what I lost with or against until I reviewed the sessions, that's when you realize that tournaments are a volume game, 200 tournaments just aren't a sample size, if you want to 1 table and really concentrate I would recommend cash games, the variance evens out much more quickly.
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02-11-2019 , 05:40 PM
Whenever you have a run of negative variance and you think it sucks, think that there's no guaranty it will stop any time soon and in fact it's equally likely it will last longer. Then ponder that thought and realize that whatever timeframe you think the negative variance will last, it will last even longer than that, even longer than what your mind can comprehend.

Maybe that will give you some peace. What blackman said is important. What matters judging every hand on how you played it, not the outcome. The past couple of weeks, I have actually been running really really well, but I am pretty upset, because I don't think I am playing well, probably because i am playing too many tables or some other reason.

Of course at some point, I will start running badly again and then it will last longer than i thought possible and I will start complaining. No matter how you dice it, it's hard to cope with a bad run of cards, but it's the nature of the game.

Last edited by leviathan74; 02-11-2019 at 05:48 PM.
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02-11-2019 , 06:00 PM
You will get ****ted on every single day
Over and over again in ways most unimaginable
But then one day
You will hold those flips
You will suck out in that crucial spot
And you will bink
And it will be worth it
Cause this is the life of the poker player
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02-11-2019 , 06:13 PM
Also, FWIW, I am somewhat disappointed by the thread because I expected a short list of hints and tips of what to do when you are seated next to a soul crasher like lena900, Darwin or LLinusLLove.

For shame OP, for shame!
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02-11-2019 , 07:44 PM
For a new player starting $11 mtts any reg that is break even or better is going to be a better player then you.
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02-13-2019 , 11:19 PM
individual hands are super unimportant, same with individual sessions. a decent reg will play 3-5k hands a day, and get worse beats for more money and for multiple final tables in a single day than you could imagine. its how you deal with it that really matters. if you are here for one hand, one tournament win, one day, then you are here for the wrong reasons.
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02-15-2019 , 03:31 PM
It sucks, but hands you just told are pretty std. In order to build the stack you have probably won a couple of flips/hold a couple of 70/30s - 80/20s and you're just focusing on the hands that went bad.

Also, playing 1MTT/time, you will hardly reach any decent sample soon. However, it should not be your objetive to make money at this point. I have a lot to learn and I've been playing this game for years, probably you have even more to learn.

Also, I suggest you lower down the stakes a bit; at abi $11 probably the avg. field is more experience than you.
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02-17-2019 , 07:56 PM
Soul cruhers are part of it - should make it a comethian again
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02-18-2019 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by blakkman08
play more tables/ sessions. Sounds counterintuitive wrt learning aspect but no way you will actually miss things playing for example two tables vs one but u literally double your volume which is massive for training your subconscious to not having to make posts like this (you get used to stuff like this happening literally all the time to the point where you stop caring and focus your mental energy on actually interesting things (like should you raise aces on the flop vs the lead or should you really jam KQ on that specific turn))

What you are doing is forcing yourself to be emotionally invested in that one table which is detrimental to just about everything you want to achieve longterm in poker

Good luck and peace
This is probably some of the best advice to someone new and learning the game, I have ever read. Thank you Sir
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02-22-2019 , 09:53 AM
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