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Old 08-09-2011, 02:36 PM   #1
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Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

Hello all,

Posted this in NVG but wanted to make sure everyone got a chance to read this.

Firstly, let me introduce myself since I rarely post on here. My name is Will Molson and my pokerstars alias is molswi47. It is unfortunate that I have to write my first long post on 2+2 with this warning to everyone. I feel bad that I delayed sharing this story for so long and missed an opportunity to warn others after recently seeing Ben Lamb's and others get screwed over by Chino. I am going to try and make this short and to the point.

The incident occurred last year at ept london. My friend brought chino into our room to hang out and play some online. This was the first time I met him but obviously knew about him from all his tv appearances and from seeing him playing all the big tournaments. It was towards the end of the trip and there was only the turbo high roller left on the schedule. He claimed that he needed stars money so he can directly buy in to the event and would swap ftp money in return. He also says that his boy Michael Mizrachi needs the same hook up and tells me, after calling him, that I will be getting a xfer from the grinder on ftp for the both of them. This is after him shipping the players championship and final tabling the main, so I obviously thought that there would be nothing fishy about this transaction.

I agree to this and ship 20k to him and 20k to grinder so that they can buy in in the morning. Xfer doesn't go through because it was the first time I would be xfering to their accounts and stars support was busy. Tournament is about to start so I have to go the stars desk and ask them if they can manually allow the xfer to go through. They get the money - everything is all good. I bust and later that day I see stars shipped 40k to both of them instead of 20k each. They made a new 20k xfer and after that was processed the other xfer was then able to then go through they tell me. I'm then make a big scene at the desk but they say they can't do anything.

I get on my flight back to Canada later on that day and get home to see that Chino has come 3rd in the event for 150k. I text both of them to see if they got double the planned amount and both of them confirm this with me. So I think all is good lol - but nah. Grinder ships me back the 40k and says I never agreed to vouch or send for Chino. Chino then becomes very hard to get a hold of and is making all these excuses as to why he hasn't shipped on tilt yet. After weeks and weeks of trying to get my money I finally get a text from his saying I'm broke and I can't get you the money... lol wtf? Dude, you cashed in the event I got you into for 150k and you don't have the courtesy to ship back asap? Grinder texts me and says he can't do anything and that he's gotten Chino out of these holes in the past but is done with it now. Chino still "owes" me 40k almost a year later. I put that into parentheses because he flat out stole from me and it's at the point where I don't expect to see my money back. He flat out stole from me and had no intention of swapping ftp money with me. I waited awhile to out this mainly because I thought there would be a better chance seeing the money if I kept it low key for awhile and gave him time.
Glad I got this off my chest - off to play day one of epic poker league now. I will defs be letting Chino know, if I see him (he qualified for event), that his already battered rep in the poker world just got a whole lot worse. **** been hitting the fan past few days in the poker world. Hopefully this isn't overshadowed by the other scandals and this story gets the proper exposure it should.
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:38 PM   #2
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Re: Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

damn that's ****ed up. what a scumbag. sorry op
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:39 PM   #3
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Re: Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

**** like this needs to be outed asap.... -.-

thanks for posting!

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Old 08-09-2011, 02:42 PM   #4
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Re: Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

heard this story before, guy is a sh.it. If I were u I'd just beat the fk out of the scrawny ghetto dude, since you are clearly never going to get paid. Also love how Grinder goes around vouching for the guy and calling him his boy but when he **** ppl over takes 0 accountability.

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Old 08-09-2011, 02:43 PM   #5
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Re: Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

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Hello all,

Posted this in NVG but wanted to make sure everyone got a chance to read this.

Firstly, let me introduce myself since I rarely post on here. My name is Will Molson and my pokerstars alias is molswi47. It is unfortunate that I have to write my first long post on 2+2 with this warning to everyone. I feel bad that I delayed sharing this story for so long and missed an opportunity to warn others after recently seeing Ben Lamb's and others get screwed over by Chino. I am going to try and make this short and to the point.

The incident occurred last year at ept london. My friend brought chino into our room to hang out and play some online. This was the first time I met him but obviously knew about him from all his tv appearances and from seeing him playing all the big tournaments. It was towards the end of the trip and there was only the turbo high roller left on the schedule. He claimed that he needed stars money so he can directly buy in to the event and would swap ftp money in return. He also says that his boy Michael Mizrachi needs the same hook up and tells me, after calling him, that I will be getting a xfer from the grinder on ftp for the both of them. This is after him shipping the players championship and final tabling the main, so I obviously thought that there would be nothing fishy about this transaction.

I agree to this and ship 20k to him and 20k to grinder so that they can buy in in the morning. Xfer doesn't go through because it was the first time I would be xfering to their accounts and stars support was busy. Tournament is about to start so I have to go the stars desk and ask them if they can manually allow the xfer to go through. They get the money - everything is all good. I bust and later that day I see stars shipped 40k to both of them instead of 20k each. They made a new 20k xfer and after that was processed the other xfer was then able to then go through they tell me. I'm then make a big scene at the desk but they say they can't do anything.

I get on my flight back to Canada later on that day and get home to see that Chino has come 3rd in the event for 150k. I text both of them to see if they got double the planned amount and both of them confirm this with me. So I think all is good lol - but nah. Grinder ships me back the 40k and says I never agreed to vouch or send for Chino. Chino then becomes very hard to get a hold of and is making all these excuses as to why he hasn't shipped on tilt yet. After weeks and weeks of trying to get my money I finally get a text from his saying I'm broke and I can't get you the money... lol wtf? Dude, you cashed in the event I got you into for 150k and you don't have the courtesy to ship back asap? Grinder texts me and says he can't do anything and that he's gotten Chino out of these holes in the past but is done with it now. Chino still "owes" me 40k almost a year later. I put that into parentheses because he flat out stole from me and it's at the point where I don't expect to see my money back. He flat out stole from me and had no intention of swapping ftp money with me. I waited awhile to out this mainly because I thought there would be a better chance seeing the money if I kept it low key for awhile and gave him time.
Glad I got this off my chest - off to play day one of epic poker league now. I will defs be letting Chino know, if I see him (he qualified for event), that his already battered rep in the poker world just got a whole lot worse. **** been hitting the fan past few days in the poker world. Hopefully this isn't overshadowed by the other scandals and this story gets the proper exposure it should.
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Also, scummy of Chino
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:45 PM   #6
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Re: Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

Chino's new name is "lesile chow"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL_0e...eature=related
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Old 08-09-2011, 03:02 PM   #7
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Re: Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

Not sure why someone doesn't beat the ish out of him. Guy is obv better off dead then alive.
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Old 08-09-2011, 03:04 PM   #8
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Re: Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

these things need to be posted closer to the time of occurrence from now on

gl op
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Old 08-09-2011, 03:16 PM   #9
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Gl Will hope you get your $$.
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Old 08-09-2011, 03:25 PM   #10
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Re: Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

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heard this story before, guy is a sh.it. If I were u I'd just beat the fk out of the scrawny ghetto dude, since you are clearly never going to get paid. Also love how Grinder goes around vouching for the guy and calling him his boy but when he **** ppl over takes 0 accountability.
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Old 08-09-2011, 03:29 PM   #11
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Re: Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

The fact that pieces of **** can use the "you dragged my name through the mud" justification to themselves for not paying makes me madder than hell

It's ******ed that people have to hold information from the community time and time again because these low lifes might get a little sour if a spade is called a spade

**** you chino, gl getting your money op
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Old 08-09-2011, 03:48 PM   #12
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Re: Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

imagine this type of behavior from someone who served time for breaking into cars...
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Old 08-09-2011, 04:38 PM   #13
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Re: Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

Poker needs to start doing what happens in other businesses when a shady character won`t pay their debts- getting lawyers involved. Even just a letter of intent addressed from a lawyer might do the job
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Old 08-09-2011, 04:42 PM   #14
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Re: Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

what can a lawyer do besides cost op more money when chino seems to be busto
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Old 08-09-2011, 05:24 PM   #15
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Re: Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

Can't believe a guy who is constantly around the big names in poker wants to tarnish his rep (well, I guess he doesn't have one anymore). After all those events he's won he is busto? I guess that's the only good fact about him being scummy, is knowing he is a broke degen and worthless piece of life. Hopefully others stop doing business with him
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Old 08-09-2011, 05:32 PM   #16
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Re: Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

I heard the Commerce has/is going to be banning Chino for this type of behavior. Now all we need is the other properties to ban him and he's done. He has ripped off so many players its disgusting...Will I hope you get something back from this **** sucker as you are a super chill dude and don't deserve this crap. And if someone talks reg with Grinder please have him stop backing up this pawn scum pos then denying any responsibility it is so weak!
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Old 08-09-2011, 05:58 PM   #17
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Think there should be a new way of "vouching" for someone in the community. Everyone asking for references of someone should say "yes, I did a transaction with him and it went smoothly" instead of "I vouch for the guy and can say he's honest" because it seems like everyone is throwing it around recently.
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Old 08-09-2011, 06:03 PM   #18
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you are quite the revolutionary
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Old 08-09-2011, 06:40 PM   #19
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thats super****ty
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Old 08-09-2011, 07:00 PM   #20
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UL OP

*Chino gonna chino* it seems :/
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Old 08-09-2011, 07:16 PM   #21
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Re: Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

starting to think i might be the only person to get paid back by chino in the history of mankind. i bet him $100 he couldn't make some putt or something (i was wasted) and he missed. 2 years later, BAM, that bet paid off!
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Old 08-09-2011, 07:19 PM   #22
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sounds sketchy
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Old 08-09-2011, 08:04 PM   #23
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really odd pokerstars couldn't reverse the transfer for you... at least you'd be down 20k and not 40k... seems like they should be somewhat responsible here...
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Old 08-09-2011, 08:04 PM   #24
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Think there should be a new way of "vouching" for someone in the community. Everyone asking for references of someone should say "yes, I did a transaction with him and it went smoothly" instead of "I vouch for the guy and can say he's honest" because it seems like everyone is throwing it around recently.

In Rounders when Mike McDermott vouched for Worm he took on that debt as his own. Grinder better watch out for the Canadian mob imo...



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Old 08-09-2011, 08:20 PM   #25
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Re: Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

I may be way off base here, but these actions (as opposed to other "scams" in recent threads) seem criminal. Shouldnt the police be notified that he stole money from you. If i am incorrect in this assertion, ok... but explain to me please why I am wrong.
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