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Old 01-26-2011, 02:14 AM   #201
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Re: biggest mtt downswing?

^ thats what i feel like right now
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Old 01-26-2011, 03:40 AM   #202
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Re: biggest mtt downswing?

Like 130-140 buy ins ATM. Seems like itl never end
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Old 01-26-2011, 04:32 AM   #203
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At what point do we stop calling it a downswing and start calling it losing? I'm more inclined to say I've lost $10k since my last big score, than to just say I'm downswinging. Assigning all your losses to variance seems too easy, I'd rather just accept that a good % of it is down to me doing stuff wrong.
Had a huge upswing from Sep to Dec, build up my BR and moved up stakes. I am in a 15 thou downsing now, there's probably some decent amount of spew in the latter part of the year mixed with inevitable regression to the mean.

Since my buyins are polarized (anywhere from $12 to $200 majors) and my MTT game still has leaks I expect it to go for a while.

As long as my BR is cushy, I ll be alright though. But if I start feeling insecure about it, it's going to become a heavy burden.
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:49 AM   #204
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Drop those higher buyins from a polarized schedule long long before it becomes a heavy burden. Wish I had
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:55 AM   #205
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Drop those higher buyins from a polarized schedule long long before it becomes a heavy burden. Wish I had
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:56 AM   #206
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Re: biggest mtt downswing?

remember when 100-150 buyins was standard "never go broke" bankroll management? ****ing UIGEA.
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Old 01-26-2011, 07:09 AM   #207
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~40k playing anywhere from $20-$1000 mtts.
Basically this.

If you havn't had a downswing of at least 40K playing everything-ish online your super lucky.
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Old 01-26-2011, 07:23 AM   #208
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remember when 100-150 buyins was standard "never go broke" bankroll management? ****ing UIGEA.
yeah. Reading this thread is really making me think about what ones bankroll management should be for online tournys in this day and age. Assuming a reg is playing 1-2K of tournys a day abi of like 140 probs need a br of like 100K?
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Old 01-26-2011, 10:51 AM   #209
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I just had my worst run now of 41 mtts without cashing. Thought that was a terrible downswing but I dont feel so bad anymore, Thanks
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Old 01-26-2011, 11:13 AM   #210
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Re: biggest mtt downswing?

Not trying to have a whine but watching SFD the other day i see him win 2 flips and a 20/80 to finish it off.

I look back at times i won an MTT, i obv think i played well but when it comes down to it you just need that run good in 1-2 crucial moments to ship. eg, like 13 left in DNG sunday i had T9 on T9xdd board and lost to Q9dd, I win that and i have the chip lead by far with 12 left, instead i limp into final table and get 7th. If you play enough volume you will inevitably hit that heat.

This is all obvious stuff but im kinda reminding myself. Not to take away from SFD being a sick human, but im sure there are a lot of players out there on the cusp of having some decent scores.
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Old 01-27-2011, 11:29 AM   #211
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Not trying to have a whine but watching SFD the other day i see him win 2 flips and a 20/80 to finish it off.

I look back at times i won an MTT, i obv think i played well but when it comes down to it you just need that run good in 1-2 crucial moments to ship. eg, like 13 left in DNG sunday i had T9 on T9xdd board and lost to Q9dd, I win that and i have the chip lead by far with 12 left, instead i limp into final table and get 7th. If you play enough volume you will inevitably hit that heat.

This is all obvious stuff but im kinda reminding myself. Not to take away from SFD being a sick human, but im sure there are a lot of players out there on the cusp of having some decent scores.
def agree, but its not only those flips. its also what you do in the meantime to get often enough in a position where you need to win those 2 or 3 crucial flips
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Old 01-27-2011, 11:56 AM   #212
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Re: biggest mtt downswing?

i think someone said its "timex theory" that good mtt players never get to become good mtt players cause they never win that important flip for that important score.
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Old 01-27-2011, 12:14 PM   #213
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i think someone said its "timex theory" that good mtt players never get to become good mtt players cause they never win that important flip for that important score.
think thats bs. bcause of the amount of MTTs running per day. In live MTTs, def. On-line if you play over 20K MTTs you should be able to hit some good scores.

Shipping majors however means you run good, if you are playing good or running good, it depends the player obviously. But winning enough daily MTTs should do the job to be defined as 'good' mtt player.
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Old 01-27-2011, 12:22 PM   #214
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yea pretty sure i worded it wrong, but the point is if you win a big flip late you make more money than if you dont
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Old 01-27-2011, 12:26 PM   #215
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Re: biggest mtt downswing?

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On-line if you play over 20K MTTs you should be able to hit some good scores.
If you start your carreer with a huge down you might never play 20k mtts..
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Old 01-27-2011, 02:57 PM   #216
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If you start your carreer with a huge down you might never play 20k mtts..
Who the phuck plays 20k mtts? Even dudes like daize, which played everyday literally of 2010 put in <10k....and he played all buy ins. For a reg who maybe play 4 days a week and 5-6k mtts a year, that's 3-4 years. Also, depending on when you started poker could have a huge effect on your win rate. Poker is absurd with mtts. Basically have to grind all day 5/7 days of the week just to hope you can even try to run at expectation, and even then you have to pray you do.
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Old 01-27-2011, 03:02 PM   #217
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Re: biggest mtt downswing?

had a 3 month stretch now over about 1300 MTTs being down 24k (124 avg BI)...guess this isn't too out of the ordinary though
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Old 01-27-2011, 03:17 PM   #218
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yeah. Reading this thread is really making me think about what ones bankroll management should be for online tournys in this day and age. Assuming a reg is playing 1-2K of tournys a day abi of like 140 probs need a br of like 100K?
sounds about right. this is assuming ur 100% certain u have a decent edge in all u play and are willing to move down if u dust off like 70k.
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Old 01-27-2011, 04:48 PM   #219
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Re: biggest mtt downswing?

11k with max buy in 55 prolli avg around 25.. but just got out of it
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Old 01-27-2011, 05:16 PM   #220
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~ 400 buyins
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Old 01-27-2011, 08:48 PM   #221
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I'm currently in like a 100-120 bi downswing with an ABI around $5. Really sucks bc it feels like it will never end and when i finally do bink, im just going to be paying my backer makeup which sucks imo.
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Old 01-27-2011, 11:48 PM   #222
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$12k at a $22 ABI, so about 550 BI's

Just ended it with a chop in the 64k last night for $12k.

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Old 01-27-2011, 11:55 PM   #223
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Re: biggest mtt downswing?

Not sure why this hasn't been posted here yet:

NoahSD breaks down how swongs are one thing
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Old 01-28-2011, 12:16 AM   #224
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Not sure why this hasn't been posted here yet:

NoahSD breaks down how swongs are one thing
yah it always amazes me when ppl don't crosspost articles from blogs that were written earlier in the day!

Last edited by LetMeLive; 01-28-2011 at 12:16 AM. Reason: especially when you consider the fact this thread originated in 2008
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Old 01-28-2011, 12:20 AM   #225
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Was referring to how it was being discussed in the monthly thread, figured someone would've thrown it over here by now. but yeah, you got me as I wasn't really unsure why it hadn't been posted itt yet.
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