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Originally Posted by oldsilver
Hi mate
I’m not posting much these days coz work but after such a sensational OP I just want to know more about the paratrooper
It was over ten years ago when I was a regular in the Foxwoods 20/40 LHE game (the biggest regular LHE game at FW). It was close to if not the best 20/40 LHE game in the country. There were so many fish. On Friday and Saturday there were at least five full tables through the night. Flops were often 4 to 6 way after pre-flop hit the 4 bet limit (only 3 raises allowed per round multi-way).
The paratrooper was one of the 190 or so regular players in the game (and I knew all of the regs). There were rarely any new players. He was egregiously bad stats wide. When I played online I used software that analyzed each type of player I played with and he was in basically the 2nd worst category. Loose passive preflop and loose passive postflop (the symbol for the player type was a fish). The worst category was Loose Aggressive pre flop and loose passive postflop (whose symbol was a pair of dice - gamblers who tended to lose more than the fish because they were playing bigger pots and in LHE it makes it harder to fold postflop because you are getting a statistically decent price on long shot hands but you are going to lose more than you win over time).
But the thing that killed me was that he was a consistent winner. Like 80% of the time he had a big stack after playing 10 to 12 hours (I used to play from 10am until 2am to 5am because the massively tilted players who were down were always there and he was never there late).
I couldn't figure it out from a strategy standpoint. He called about 70% to 80% of raises in the BB. He called a ton of raises pre-flop in late positions (HJ+).
Until one day I decided to emulate his play. And I got in a hand with him where he had raised in EP and I called OTB with like T7s. I called his flop cbet. I called on the turn and I bet the river with some middle pair and won a decent sized pot vs AK I figured. I thanked him after the hand for teaching me how to do it and he exploded. He started yelling at me that he had been a paratrooper in the Korean war (50 years earlier) and he would be damned if he would let me get away with taking him down. And that was when the lightbulb went off for me. He had spent at least 2 years being dropped out of airplanes in either enemy territory or in neutral zones typically at night where people on the ground might be able to see him but maybe not. Maybe he was invisible. Gliding down into danger in so many forms.
Being shot at while in the air (raises pre-flop after he had called a limp or raise). So he had to be able to dodge bullets without firing back (he never 3-bet or 4-bet pre-flop)
Hitting the ground attached to his parachute and not being able to run immediately (making pre-flop calls from the SB or BB where he was out of position but paying more attention to what other players were gearing up to do while he scoped out the competition).
Then blending into the darkness so nobody could tell he had landed (calls on the flop like he was just going to see another card, never raising and never calling attention to the strength of his hand).
During the day he worked his way to positions of cover but also of strength. He took the high ground. Whether it was in trees or high up on a hill behind rocks, waiting for the enemy to show themselves so he could kill them at ease (this is why he often called raises in position so that when the original raiser showed any weakness he would pounce. Also because he was a regular he knew everybody. Really well. His reads were like he was back in life and death situations where he never made a mistake. And he never made a mistake post flop).
When his mission was done (he had made $1,500+ for the day) he got back to his base and safety (he never played tired or unable to respond quickly and accurately).
This is basically what I most loved about watching Daniel Negreanu. He would talk in a very friendly way to people about their lives as if he cared. Amusing, polite, kind and always interested (listening for details of what they had done and how that would characterize their play). And in that moment when the paratrooper got enraged with me and spilled the beans I knew that when he was in a hand with me I always had to play exactly the same way regardless of the strength of my hand. Never firing at him first.
I started checking every flop after my pre-flop raises had been called by him IP to see what he would do. And he never bet himself because he didn't want to come out of hiding. So we checked it down a bit. When he was in a blind I tended to bet only when the flops favored my range vs almost ATC. He almost always bet the turn if the flop was checked through when he was in the blinds. So I made him come out first.
Truth was he still was amazing. He could read me anyway. Most of the time. But I was now losing less money when he won hands and sometimes winning more when he lost (bigger sized bets on the turn and river where I would have checked before because he had called my flop bet).
If the paratrooper had asked me why I cared that he was a paratrooper I would have told him that as a child I grew up in an alcoholic home. My father's rage was always one step away from ruining my day. I had to know what kind of mood he was in when he came home from work at night so I would know whether to stay in hiding or not. I did not know he was an alcoholic (until I worked as a kitchen bartender for him in his restaurant one summer and served him at least 3 vodka tonics from 10:30am through 2:30pm my shift) but I did know what mood he was going to be in by the sound the key made when he was unlocking the door to our apartment. So even though I never served in the military I had basically learned how to remain hidden until it was safe to come out. Just like the paratrooper had to do. And I respected him (the paratrooper) for being so amazing at his job that he not only survived but that he used his experience to be a solid winner at poker at FW. I always had really liked the guy but up until that moment I had been unable to figure him out. But yes I would have let him know because why not I was already an open book to him and what I love most about poker isn't the winning but having a good time with the other players regardless of the outcome.
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The PFR on that action is fine but I’d size down the cbet on the monotone because it scares the s out of everyone with huge+s in your range
Once it’s called you have a couple of options, either check or size up to a milking type sizing ott. But I’m not jamming. Ever.
As for the tournament structure, jhc. Either don’t play it with the ridiculous commute to day 2, or commit to the commute and play it like any other tournament and accept the travel cost as part of the mtt expense. Most of the best mtts in Australia are played in Gold Coast QLD atm and I have a two hour flight and accom expenses just to enter the series. Just accept that overhead and play the best mtt poker you can. Travel 2.5 hours with 1.5bb on day 2? Google some amazing thing to do in city 2 for maximum life EV even if $ev is laughable.
I have started jamming. Double pot size on the flop or turn. Its a GTO thing and not that I am a GTO player I just want people to think I might be. Because in order to do that in a balanced way (to print money) I have to be bluffing a lot which is unlikely for me.
I have done it 3 times that I can remember.
Once this hand which is a bluff. A value bluff yes (because I was actually ahead) but nevertheless a bluff in my mind. And somehow I managed to win the hand. Which meant that I would have been destined for Rosvadov if only my KK had held up vs AK in a 160,000 chip pot (he 4-bet all in pre-flop when I had 3-bet as BB) and/or if QQ had held up vs AK in a 140,000 chip pot (same thing different player, he 4-bet all-in preflop after I had 3-bet in the SB)... But apparently I had used up my luck in this 67% spot vs K
8o...
Once in a tournament that I wrote about here where I had AK that I had 3-bet with and it remained a 5 way pot and the flop came AKT two clubs I think and I didn't want any QXs/JXs to call a relatively small flop bet (any other sizing would have been pot committing for me but implied odds perfect for them) so I jammed the flop. And everyone did fold. One guy hesitated awhile (ATs/KTs probably though it could have been AQ/AJs because he had cold called my 3-bet in the SB pre-flop)
And then there was a $600 Venetian deep stack where I had AA OOP on Q987 board with 2 hearts and 2 clubs. By the time we got to the turn there was about 75,000 chips in the pot. I jammed ~150,000 so that any draws or double draws wouldn't be getting the right price. I also had a read that he would jam any 2 pair+ hands and I would have to call because he would also jam some but not all double draws. And yet he called with KTs which was mathematically very wrong though he probably thought he had 3 extra outs if a K hit. I lost that one (6 on the river). Knocked out. I basically would have been close to chip leader had I won that 67% shot.
But you could be right. And I should stop doing it. I guess its the paratrooper in me (OK the Adult Child Of an Alcoholic). I'm taking action before I have time to think it through. I'm trusting every ounce of my perception in the moment. Though to be completely honest my hands are moving my chips all in before I know what is happening really.
Last edited by Mr Rick; 05-09-2023 at 10:24 AM.