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02-17-2011 , 07:55 AM
Hello. I'm Max Katz.

First of all, sorry for my poor english . I burn in Russia, grew up in Israel, now live 50-50 in Russia and Vegas, but my english skills are "not perfect". May be it would be better to start my blog in 2015, when my english will be perfect, but I decided to start it now

If you ever sold shares to offline events in the past 6 month, you definitely heard about me. I buy almost all the action in the "offline shares" forum. In the past 6 month's we bought shares for 950K, and had 4 big hits.

I am planning to continue with this business, some people think I will bust our bankroll during the WSOP, others believe that we will win shares from at least 2 bracelets... So may be it will be interesting for you to follow my blog during this year

I also heard some stories about myself, for example that I work for the Russian secret agency, and that my father is a Russian oil millionaire. All the stories are false ofcorse, later in the blog I will write about myself, how I started and worked in the poker world in Russia.

I have a mania of writing, this can be easily proofed by visiting my blog in Russia here, 1469 posts in the last 5 years, little bit less than one a day. And most of them are long, like this for example, about Cuba.
I have some "haters" in Russia, people that run after me everywhere and write false stuff about me, if they will appear here — don't believe them

So, if you have questions about staking in general or me in personal —*please ask, I will continue in a few days with some posts here
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02-17-2011 , 08:01 AM
what do you look for in the people you buy shares of?

how did you get started in this business?
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02-17-2011 , 08:20 AM
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02-17-2011 , 08:31 AM
Here some more pictures
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02-17-2011 , 08:32 AM
is it true that in soviet russia katz max you?



jokes aside I think that your presence in the marketplace alone is interesting enough people will enjoy hearing about you.
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02-17-2011 , 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by tonymark01
what do you look for in the people you buy shares of?

how did you get started in this business?
This is not interesting .

1. Online results,
2. Offline experience,
3. Markup.

There is some interesting stuff on how to analyze online stats and how to estimate what ROI online player will have in a given offline event, but this is not a thing that I will tell at this point


Started in Russia by making the "shares revolution" we call it . Last February I made series of posts in my blog in Russian about selling shares, and explained what it is good to sell it — it developed rapidly in Russian community, now everybody buy and sell shares .
Then we made one shot to foreign player, and it happened to be David Vamplew
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02-17-2011 , 08:38 AM
2 bracelets and ME final table, at least :-)
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02-17-2011 , 08:39 AM
why do you think online results has any great significance for offline play?
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02-17-2011 , 08:40 AM
cool story tho, like your blog
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02-17-2011 , 08:42 AM
any chance VanUA on FTP is backed by you ?
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02-17-2011 , 08:47 AM
Whats the most markup you will play? Say Jason Mercier was selling pieces to a random NAPT. Would you pay 1.6-1? Are there many russians that are in on this buying of shares or is it just you?
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02-17-2011 , 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by DavidTth
why do you think online results has any great significance for offline play?
It's the same game, just much harder. Online players know what to do, they have all the instruments to be winning offline players in most of the cases, especially if they make rare shots and not go pro. If someone made his way to NL600 he will easily adjust to offline
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02-17-2011 , 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by aseHigh
any chance VanUA on FTP is backed by you ?
I don't think so, but I'm not sure
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02-17-2011 , 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Maxkatz
Here some more pictures
Niagara is not in Washington
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02-17-2011 , 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by charder30
Whats the most markup you will play? Say Jason Mercier was selling pieces to a random NAPT. Would you pay 1.6-1? Are there many russians that are in on this buying of shares or is it just you?
In very rare cases I will go more than 1,25. 1,3 it's almost the maximum excluding very special events.

There are many russians, but most of them are in our fund. It's not only me, we are 16 players there, I'm the manager and the biggest investor.
There is another Russian fund starting to work now, but it managed buy strange person, I don't think it will live long
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02-17-2011 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by charder30
Niagara is not in Washington
orly
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02-17-2011 , 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by aseHigh
any chance VanUA on FTP is backed by you ?
VanUA got 100% of himself in this ftops
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02-17-2011 , 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Maxkatz
It's the same game, just much harder.
can you elaborate on this? after playing a ton of live mtts in the last 2 years i think it's significantly different and much easier, but if a very good online hsmtt reg played (for the most part) live like an online hsmtt reg they would not be a winning live mtt player
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02-17-2011 , 09:07 AM
the adjustments from online to live are much harder than vice-versa
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02-17-2011 , 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by krondix
VanUA got 100% of himself in this ftops
cool, he plays well, gl him in the HU
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02-17-2011 , 09:08 AM
Max I sent you a PM. Thanks for reading when you get a chance.

Every single person who has played live poker knows you cannot really play like you do online. A lot of adjustments need to be made, but in general terms it's the same game. I haven't played live MTTs, but no one I've EVER spoke to has told me they are tougher or harder to learn than online MTTs.

@OMG, you really think a live pro will be able to adapt to online easier than an online pro adjusting to live? I think results alone will prove that statement incorrect. Many of the best HSMTT players online have absolutely demolished live with ease. Not many live pros have beaten HSMTTs, and most of them are considered quite bad at online MTTs.

Online players in general are probably more prone to spew due to boredom in live, which I think would be the biggest leap. Live pros switching to online discover a completely different (more aggressive mostly) dynamic and find it harder to keep up.
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02-17-2011 , 09:15 AM
Do the players you invest in have to have an ABI as high as the buyin of the live event, for you to be interested in buying pieces? Or does that not effect ur potential in investing in them too much?
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02-17-2011 , 09:18 AM
Even the highest stakes MTT players online have ABIs lower than almost any live event that's worth selling action for. The ABIs between online MTTs and live MTTs do not directly correlate. Someone who beats online MTTs with a ~$100 ABI should be able to crush the WSOP ME, and most live big series main events with very large ROIs.

Max, is this a well or what? Can we pretty much ask you any question related to backing, your life, come up in the poker world, etc?
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02-17-2011 , 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by CompleteDonk

Every single person who has played live poker knows you cannot really play like you do online.
http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=172001

Last edited by DavidTth; 02-17-2011 at 09:19 AM. Reason: done trolling, this is actually a rly interesting thread
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02-17-2011 , 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DavidTth
can you elaborate on this? after playing a ton of live mtts in the last 2 years i think it's significantly different and much easier, but if a very good online hsmtt reg played (for the most part) live like an online hsmtt reg they would not be a winning live mtt player
I meant that the online much harder
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