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About bb/100 in tournaments and variance About bb/100 in tournaments and variance

12-02-2016 , 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by masterxcvt
i will post my stats for some of the filters that chuck suggested :
I am :

@ bb vs sb openraise : -51,42bb / -38bb EV over 7k hands
@ in bb vs SB any action: 24bbs / 53bb EV over 3.6k hands
@ in bb vs SB limp: 16bbs / 25bb EV over 2k hands
@ in sb vs CO/BTN single raiser: -8bbs / -11bb EV over 20k hands
@ in BTN and unopened: 38bbs / 41bb EV over 25k hands
@ in SB and unopened: 17bbs / 16bb EV over 15k hands
@ in bb and steal attempted: -42bbs / -42bb EV over 23k hands
It looks we have similar database size atm, runned my database and here is results
Filters:
Antes > 1
4+ players at table

@ bb vs sb openraise : -7bb / -17bb EV over 8k hands
@ in bb vs SB any action: 92bb/ 70bb EV over 3k hands
@ in bb vs SB limp: 89bbs / 78bb EV over 2k hands
@ sb vs btn/co steal -10bb / -13bb EV 19k hands
@ in btn and unopened 50bb / 46bb EV 24k hands
@ in sb and unopened 46bb / 46bb ev 15k hands
@ in bb vs co/btn/sb steal -34bb / -36bb EV over 23k hands

Last edited by kamitis; 12-02-2016 at 11:25 PM.
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12-05-2016 , 09:33 PM
Can someone tell me how do i filter the bb/100 on HEM2? I asked on the hem2 thread on software forum but they asked to ask someone here on this thread.


Someone mentioned only filter it to bb is greater or equal to 100? I see the filter on hem2 but could not get it to work at all.
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12-06-2016 , 12:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kamitis
It looks we have similar database size atm, runned my database and here is results
Filters:
Antes > 1
4+ players at table

@ bb vs sb openraise : -7bb / -17bb EV over 8k hands
@ in bb vs SB any action: 92bb/ 70bb EV over 3k hands
@ in bb vs SB limp: 89bbs / 78bb EV over 2k hands
@ sb vs btn/co steal -10bb / -13bb EV 19k hands
@ in btn and unopened 50bb / 46bb EV 24k hands
@ in sb and unopened 46bb / 46bb ev 15k hands
@ in bb vs co/btn/sb steal -34bb / -36bb EV over 23k hands

Filters:
Antes > 1
4+ players at table
abi 60ish over 2yrs

@ bb vs sb openraise : -25bb / -18bb EV over 11k hands
@ in bb vs SB any action: N/A filter fail
@ in bb vs SB limp: 50bbs / 59bb EV over 5k hands
@ sb vs btn/co steal -11 / -14b EV 32k hands
@ in btn and unopened 44bb / 45bb EV 43k hands
@ in sb and unopened 30bb / 29bb ev 25k hands
@ in bb vs co/btn/sb steal -33bb / -31bb EV over 40k hands

that said I also ran numbers just for 2016 and for example sb vs btn/co steal is -2 / -7bb ev over 18k hands. Either improvement or variance. This sort of comparison is still useful to see some glaring positional leaks but otherwise meh

Last edited by Alexos; 12-06-2016 at 12:46 AM. Reason: 2016 numbers
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12-07-2016 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulyJames200x
Can someone tell me how do i filter the bb/100 on HEM2? I asked on the hem2 thread on software forum but they asked to ask someone here on this thread.


Someone mentioned only filter it to bb is greater or equal to 100? I see the filter on hem2 but could not get it to work at all.
You dont need to filter for bb/100 there´s a default report that shows this stat what you need to filer is for the different spots mentioned in here.
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12-07-2016 , 03:26 PM
This is probably a noob question but why are people posting 2 numbers for each spot?
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12-07-2016 , 07:32 PM
because one is the outcome winrate and the other is the expected winrate (EV = expected value)

if you win a 10bbs allin preflop with AA against 22 you get a stack of 20bbs and if you lose a 0bb stack but in average your stack will be 80% of the pot.
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12-07-2016 , 11:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xPISCIVOROUSx
You dont need to filter for bb/100 there´s a default report that shows this stat what you need to filer is for the different spots mentioned in here.

Yes i see this in reports, tournament, overall. However how do you filter it is my question. Someone mentioned you have to make the bb is greater or equal to 100... is that right? If so, how do you do this?


I did trial and error and not sure how you do this. Someone said click on more filters but where do you do this and how? Which available filter is it and how do i do the bb is greater or equal to 100? Someone in another thread said to filter it by stack size but where is the bb is greater or equal to 100?
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12-07-2016 , 11:34 PM
I see the report for stack size


0-10bb
11-15bb


all the way to


250-300bb.



But basically most of it is from 0-10bb to say 81-100bb.


So which bb are you suppose to look at? Which is also the most important So the last number at the bottom is the average bb/100 correct? But what about the filter bb is greater or equal to 100 that others mentioned here?



Basically every level bb i have is a positive number except 71-100bb.


Is there also a chart where it shows how much bb/100 is good for each level such as 0-10bb, 11-15bb, 41-60bb etc?
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12-19-2016 , 09:48 PM
Reading this thread and realising that my 8.26bb/100 overall just drop to 4.55 with antes in play.

Surprisely i discovered this:
0-10bb: 4.38
10-20bb: 5.09
20-30bb: -0.43
30-40bb: 7.75
+40bb: 6.79

Wtf?

What you say?
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12-19-2016 , 11:07 PM
Sample? Maybe just an outlier.

If not there could be many reasons. Too much or too little opening, raise folding, reshoving, peeling etc. You'd need to have someone look at your stats.
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12-19-2016 , 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by getmeoffcompletely
Sample? Maybe just an outlier.

If not there could be many reasons. Too much or too little opening, raise folding, reshoving, peeling etc. You'd need to have someone look at your stats.
37k hands. I'll look into them.
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12-20-2016 , 11:33 AM
37k is nothing.
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12-20-2016 , 12:38 PM
yeah i normally play between 2k and 3k hands per session so thats around 2 weeks worth of grinding imo
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12-20-2016 , 12:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by getmeoffcompletely
37k is nothing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by xPISCIVOROUSx
yeah i normally play between 2k and 3k hands per session so thats around 2 weeks worth of grinding imo
37k with 20-30bb, antes in play. Not the total sample.
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01-05-2017 , 07:45 PM
Hey guys. So i play mostly 180 man mtt and low stakes tournaments. I have gotten decent volume on it. Almost all volume is on 180 mans.


I use HEM2. So after every session, i multitable a lot of these 180 mans, i would then click the tournament tab on HEM2 and then overall tab. They show my BB/100. Almost always this number is positive. I have seen it go as high as in the mid 20s. I believe someone mentioned that if its 10bb/more then you should be crushing this format.


I'm pretty sure im running very bad in these. Can someone here confirm how would i know if im running bad or not? I did add the stack size tab on HEM2 and it filters the bb/100 for


0-10bb
11-15bb
16-25bb

All the way to like 250-350bb etc.


So i assume i have to make the date range the entire period in my hem2 database... then see what number it is for each bb level etc? Which bb level is the most important? Someone mentioned its hard to get a big bb/100 like when its 11bb-15bb i believe?


I also noticed that when sometimes i play and know im playing bad, the BB/100 after im done playing when i check it surely reflects it.
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01-06-2017 , 12:33 AM


i play SNGs but sometimes mix in MTTs

im a +7ev bb/100 winner when i filter for MTTs (370k hands), yet im down 5k after 2,200games

is this standardish for such a sample?

possible reasons for this?

ps. i hate MTTs...wish i could ban myself in the lobby
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01-06-2017 , 12:34 AM
my picture didnt get uploaded...i suck at this...

heres a link:

http://prnt.sc/ds376x
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01-07-2017 , 03:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pop.


i play SNGs but sometimes mix in MTTs

im a +7ev bb/100 winner when i filter for MTTs (370k hands), yet im down 5k after 2,200games

is this standardish for such a sample?

possible reasons for this?

ps. i hate MTTs...wish i could ban myself in the lobby
Depends field size and buyin (5k down for abi 5$ is different thing then abi 50$) some, but in general being in hole after 2k games of mtt is nothing unusual.
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01-08-2017 , 06:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pop.


i play SNGs but sometimes mix in MTTs

im a +7ev bb/100 winner when i filter for MTTs (370k hands), yet im down 5k after 2,200games

is this standardish for such a sample?

possible reasons for this?

ps. i hate MTTs...wish i could ban myself in the lobby
You can at PokerStars!

Tools > Responsible Gaming > Restrict Tournament Buyin

There you have the option of setting a buyin limit or restricting all. Doing it for tournaments does not affect SNGs. You can adjust those on the same page.
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01-08-2017 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by kamitis
Depends field size and buyin (5k down for abi 5$ is different thing then abi 50$) some, but in general being in hole after 2k games of mtt is nothing unusual.
26$ abi

weird....i just realized that the 7bb win rate includes some 18-180mans i played cause they fall under mtt filter i guess

so when i filter for mtts AND players in tornament greater than 181 it says
im +17ev bb and +29.5 bb winer...and im still down 5k, wtf

so im running almost twice above ev but loosing real money, nice


doesnt make much sense to me


http://prntscr.com/dt1j3t

Last edited by Pop.; 01-08-2017 at 01:23 PM. Reason: adding the last sentance
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01-08-2017 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by UPAY4DINNER
You can at PokerStars!

Tools > Responsible Gaming > Restrict Tournament Buyin

There you have the option of setting a buyin limit or restricting all. Doing it for tournaments does not affect SNGs. You can adjust those on the same page.

i actually heard someone say this but wasnt sure if it was true...i was hoping some one would say something here when i mention it, thank you
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01-08-2017 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Pop.
i actually heard someone say this but wasnt sure if it was true...i was hoping some one would say something here when i mention it, thank you
No worries - glad to help!

If you change your mind at any stage your restrictions CAN be lifted, however, please keep in mind that it takes 24 hours to do so. Well, pre-Amaya, it used to be 24 hours (and I assume that hasn't changed) however, it is Amaya that we are talking about and it may have changed!
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01-10-2018 , 09:23 AM
Hi guys,
I want to ask for advise or better listen your opinion. I was just checking my stats for last year and i have my personal feeling that my game is struggling, results are not as sufficient as i'd expect.
I'm playing avg. stakes about 15$ mostly on winamax and party and like to hear some feedback on positional wr and compare it with others to see in which position i should focus and improve.

.

I can filter it as well if its necessary.

Thanks for any feedback
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01-10-2018 , 12:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thatsright3
Hi guys,
I want to ask for advise or better listen your opinion. I was just checking my stats for last year and i have my personal feeling that my game is struggling, results are not as sufficient as i'd expect.
I'm playing avg. stakes about 15$ mostly on winamax and party and like to hear some feedback on positional wr and compare it with others to see in which position i should focus and improve.

.

I can filter it as well if its necessary.

Thanks for any feedback
What are ur results?
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01-10-2018 , 12:52 PM
results are not that important and sample for last year is small.... about 4k games and avg. ROI about 60% .. but im almost BE on party and sth. like + 10k on wina.

Primarily i'd like to know whether those numbers on these stakes are low or avg. or for what i should aim
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