Button winrate seems a bit low in comparison with other positions which are excellent. I'm just guessing but maybe you're being a bit too aggro on the button. At any rate you're a big winner in the games and yes it sucks to have those winrates and not get the results, but that's just the nature of the format.

You could squeeze out some more bb/100 but the simple reality is that it's not going to make that massive of a difference to your $ev and at the end of the day if you're going to have a 20k or 100k year is mostly down to luck.

yeah you're right that im struggling on the button, i guess its not about being overaggro but because of im calling station and i'm calling off with weak hands and its costs me a lot, but im working on it

Make sure to filter it so it doesn't include ante tournaments (i.e. where the blinds as 5/5 the whole time, just the antes increase)

im not playing ante tournaments at all

the #s are good, not great

you don't have any one position that is very low

but they can all go up a bit considering you're stakes

Can any holdem manager 2 users chime in on this? When you click on stack size and then look at those stack sizes like i posted above, is that what you should be looking at?


Thus the most important stack sizes would be


41-60bb
25-40bb
16-25bb
10-15bb
Under 10bb


But there should be more weight on 40bb and below? Also if you play 180 mans, isn't the 25bb and below stack what you should look at? So if someone has a 5bb or more at each of these levels at 25bb and below, that mean they are a winning player then?

Interesting topic, I will add my 2c, here is my graph:



At $20 ABI I'm around 15ish BB/100, there is some lower stakes clustered in there. At lower stakes (sub $10), I've maintained 25ish over 50k hands IIRC and I seldom dropped more than 20 BIs.

Basically, if you are above 10bb/100, it's very hard to severely downswing. I've dropped 40 BIs in that graph, but it was mostly using aggressive rebuy strategies which I've realized was adding to the issue, without them it'd probably be around 30ish, so still downswinging but that only last 2-3 weeks and now I'm back up over 100 BIs at since I started with the graph.

I will also add that there have been some very close calls which the difference between flips/JJ v AA or QQ v KK/flush over flush on final tables is possibly even 500+ BIs over the last month, some of the placings:

6/115, 11/1600, 23/124, 18/150, 18/800, 26/720, 19/140, 45/706, 17/132, 2/166, 6/283, 11/900

So although expecting to win them all is not realistic at all, with slightly better luck I could be up a lot more than just 100 BIs over that sample.

On further consideration, Big Mick wins this thread

Where do you get the 15bb/100? So is that your net bb/100? On holdem manager, it shows your bb/100 and there is a section where it shows your bb/100 per different stack size such as under 10bb, 11-15bb, 16-25bb, 26-40bb and 41-60bb etc.


Can anyone that use HEM2 confirm to me that is what you should be looking at? Im mainly a 180 man player and also low stakes tournament player and want to know if i am indeed a winning player or not. Because i been on a very long downswing but my bb/100 shows a pretty good number. Thanks.

Does anybody have an idea how turbo and hyper turbo blind structure affects bb/100?

I am assuming it decreases BB/100 as edge is reduced, but does anybody have significant numbers on how etc?

thx

Hi, these are my stats. I think I have a good bb / 100, but still I still have not been profitable .. It does not worry me much, because I know it's just keeping grind. What worries me is the mind set, can you help me in strategies to combat tilt by accumulating bad results, even beating the field? How to fill this .. thanks


Hands: 134944
BB/100: 8.32
Allin adj bb/100: 9.62
Net won /hour date: -€1.06
Net won / hour mounth: -€0.05

Here are some interesting SSs





European being on a 7 month downswing where he dropped 100-150 BIs depending how he counts his BIs





Nearly 9 month dowswing for 150-250 BIs (again depending on how it is counted)





Even happens to Godly Darwin

So at the highest stakes, it's likely they are in the 5-10bb range and still having big drops.

100bi downswing is not a big drop

Can someone tell me what stats do i look at or filter on holdem manager 2 for this?


Some say look at preante vs antes. But almost all tournaments start with ante... so isn't preante useless?


Do you filter in tournament stack size and it shows your bb/100? Or does that not matter?

For that it shows


Greater than 200bb
very large 61-200bb
large 36-60bb
medium 26-35bb
small 16-25bb
very small 11-15bb
short 6-10bb
micro 1-5bb




What about the stack size tab on hem2? It shows bb/100 at different bb stacks such as


101-150bb
81-100bb
61-80bb
41-60bb
26-40bb
16-25bb
11-15bb
0-10bb




Do you look at the bb/100 for each level? What about the overall bb/100 at the bottom?



I want to know what specific stat im suppose to look at here because others say bb/100 tells you if you are a winner or not.

Someone mentioned that in HEM2, you click on stats and then add the EV bb/100 to the reports. That is your EV bb/100 and if you look at it at stack size or tournament stack size, you see what it is at each stack size. Can someone confirm this is where you find the bb/100? So the EV bb/100 is what people say is their bb/100? I thought it was the bb/100 that shows on hem2.


So to see how you do at specific stack sizes, look at your EV bb/100 for each one? But the overall one at the bottom matters since it averages everything out right?

EV bb/100 is what you are expected to have been winning/losing at. So that's all in adjusted EV. The bb/100 at the bottom is what you have actually won at averaged out, same as the EV one at the bottom will be averaged out. You can of course filter for different stack sizes to see if you maybe are playing a certain stack size worse than other sizes but obviously it's possible to win more with 100bbs than it is with 5bbs.

Hopefully that's what you were asking.

It's okay to just look at your overall EV bb/100
10+ supposedly is crushing level

You have to filter out ante tournaments tho, as it will show way incorrectly this stat if you dont. You just have to add filter for your stack to be less than 500 big blinds, it should do

Thanks for the responses. So looking at your bb stack sizes such as


41-60bb
26-40bb
16-25bb
10-15bb
0-10bb



Its important to look at your EV bb/100 at each specific stack size... but in the end. the EV bb/100 is the most important thing right? But you would agree that having a positive number EV bb/100 at the shorter stacks such as 40bb and below is much more important than deeper stack play early on right? Since the average stack in the middle and late of tournaments avg bb stack is always under 40bb?



You say the bb/100 at the bottom is what you have won at averaged out. Well it is possible for you to have a ridiculous number like 20bb/100 in that stat but you ran very bad and lose flips and run below EV?



What do you mean filter out ante tournaments? All tournaments have an ante when you start nowadays whether its stars or 888 or party. Do you mean ante tournaments where its a huge portion of the big blind or something? If so, i dont think these tournaments even happen much at all? Or do you mean don't include any progressive tournaments? Such as bounty builders and hunters and progressive tournaments?



So basically the EV bb/100 should be completely disregarded in any type of bounty tournament because it would not be correct? Thus only look at the EV bb/100 for freezeout tournaments only?

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