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07-27-2011 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by derwipok
Final vote count

[0] Anarchist voted for TheDean1
[0] bojtun voted for HiFi
[0] CPHoya
[0] fnord_too voted for HiFi
[0] HerbieGRD
[5] HiFi voted for TheDean1
[0] J.D. voted for HiFi
[0] loosekanen voted for HiFi
[0] Sun Tzu voted for TheDean1
[0] Supine voted for TheDean1
[7] TheDean1 voted for unvote
[0] UAW710 voted for TheDean1
[0] vyk07 voted for TheDean1
[0] XXsooted voted for TheDean1
[0] Zayana voted for HiFi

10 minutes to PM me corrections.
UAW and xxsooted should both be at the top of everyone's lynch lists along with myself here

Supine we need to hear more from you
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07-27-2011 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
i can't fathom how vyk is still alive in this game
With all the mountains of evidence against me here, I swear I would be posting heaps and heaps of LOLcats right now if I was a wolf

But, I'm not

Please reference my Risk or noob mason game for clarification on my wolf games

Thank you anarchist
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07-27-2011 , 02:52 PM
Seriously, do not reference ongoing games for any reason in any thread. That's just the rule.
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07-27-2011 , 02:53 PM
I'm a bit loath to post strong reads this game, but from rereading I don't see how we don't go xxsooted or vyk.
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07-27-2011 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by HerbieGRD
I didn't even see it until I read your post

Yeah that's pretty bad
NO ITS NOT

assuming I am being 100% locked lynch this day, it's not a question from a subgroup it's a question from someone no longer involved in the game as a dead villa

why the hell would I make so many ridiculous oversights if I am still attempting to fool you as a flailing, LOLcat FREE, villager here?
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07-27-2011 , 02:58 PM
Vyk

If you're a villager don't worry about it, just find wolves imo

Given how little effort Sooted is putting in right now I'm pretty sure I want to lynch him before you anyways
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07-27-2011 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by HerbieGRD
The good thing about Vyk being a wolf here is that I really believe if he is one then we can clear Supine 100% due to the similarities in their day 2 - I can't imagine TWO wolves would separately soft fake seer with Dean as a wolf on the same day
So the opposite conclusion would be something like "the good thing about vyk being lynched villa, is that we can now implicate Supine 100%"?

Just double checking
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07-27-2011 , 03:04 PM
supine is off the table because he claimed villager and is reliant on that streak

this doesn't change in any game until he breaks it once

it's silly but that's how it is
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07-27-2011 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by HerbieGRD
Vyk

If you're a villager don't worry about it, just find wolves imo

Given how little effort Sooted is putting in right now I'm pretty sure I want to lynch him before you anyways
it's a slow game, I'm taking it easy.

I've been voting hifi since d1 and I haven't bussed since 2008.
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07-27-2011 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Zayana
1)


2)


3) if not when, this is weak, I've seen villagers do this. Typically a villager thinks "when" though, not "if"


4) This was the real 3




4)




5) you guys, not we... he's not thinking of himself as a member of the village
Great detective work Zaya. It looks like a lock solid open and shut case.

Time to break out the LOLcats.

Oh wait!
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07-27-2011 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by HerbieGRD
aorn I feel like HiFi coming up wolf means that Sooted is very very likely to be a wolf, but he's the only one I feel confident about right now.
explain
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07-27-2011 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Zayana
The remaining content of your post implied that the you guys referred to villagers.

Curious what you do in real life? Job wise...
Student
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07-27-2011 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by HerbieGRD
Vyk

If you're a villager don't worry about it, just find wolves imo

Given how little effort Sooted is putting in right now I'm pretty sure I want to lynch him before you anyways
Thanks Herbie

Sooted and UAW are at the top of my list right now

You guys are better off POEing Sooted before me when you lynch anyways
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07-27-2011 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by vyk07
With all the mountains of evidence against me here, I swear I would be posting heaps and heaps of LOLcats right now if I was a wolf
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
supine is off the table because he claimed villager and is reliant on that streak
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Originally Posted by XXsooted
I've been voting hifi since d1 and I haven't bussed since 2008.
Ok well we now have 3 iron clad excuses about why the wolfiest people in the thread can't be wolves

Obv time to lynch Zaya and Hoya, since these aren't the least bit exploitable or anything

Oh, wait...........
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07-27-2011 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by J.D.
So the NK. Obviously the peeks were either Sun and HiFi or the wolves want us to assume it was those two.

I am going with the assumption that they were the peeks.

Vyk, were you wolf or villager in that mason game? Who was your mason?

Does anyone know xxsooteds opinion on bussing?
I can quote you my last 5 wolf games. Or 10 even. Doing this will be horrible for my future wolf games, but I seriously never bus.

My reason for doing this is that IMO villages never really give you THAT much credit for bussing (as you can see here I am a wolf candidate despite going after hifi early) so bussing just ends up hurting your team for no reason.
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07-27-2011 , 03:15 PM
This is page 3-5 for HiFi spew... It's a lot because it's a big convo about her started by Hoya. Interestingly, Hoya said he had her as wolf, and there was almost a page of talking before I finally asked why (I reread her before asking), but no one else asked either... So I should maybe note who was around as part of that spew, since wolves might be more likely to avoid wolf accusations? I'm reaching there though...

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
I see why you and mets are together
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
I was just thinking the same thing

see what I mean?
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
After considerable reflection, I've decided HiFi is probably a wolf.
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Originally Posted by Zayana
Why's this?
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
Low contribution, emotion out of proportion to her "plight" at the very beginning of the day, which is usually just a tell if you're terrible but with her seems a more subtle tell because she knows she has to flip out about ZOMBIE JESUS and everything and ***** ***** because she's HiFi and that's what HiFi does.

I mean, she hit all her marks pretty fast before she took off for her new job (CONGRATS HIFI <3!!!!!!) and that's what bugs me.
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
Wait, SHE? There are 2 girls ITT?

I didn't even know there were 2 girls in the entire internet!
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
Just to clarify, "low contribution" means low compared to her posts. She has 19. If I have 19 posts I definitely get some content in there.
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Originally Posted by HerbieGRD
Ok I'm not being nice I'll stop it now

hifi, zaya, and hoya ldo
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Originally Posted by Zayana
I'm comparing her to Dark Materials, but I don't know that that's a fair comparison because she was godfather. Plus I had "additional information" to judge her on. In that game I knew Mets was villa, not literally knew it no peek or anything... but I knew it, I had him at <3% chance to be a wolf. And HiFi who I assumed should be able to read him better than I can, was calling him a wolf and pressuring him. We all know how mets gets when he's pressured, he goes defensive and stops trying to play the game. It was a really good play for her as a wolf, but I was also pretty sure she was a wolf because of it. Here I'm not sure what to think of her Supine exchange because I don't know Supine well. So, does she pressure him here as villa or wolf? He voted her first, so her vote and pressure is possibly role neutral.

I think this is standard for her, no offense meant to her, but she often reacts to things in ways far beyond what I'd expect.
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
CPHoya- would you feel better about HiFi being a villager if she only made 10 fluff posts before heading off to work? 5?

I mean she clearly only had a brief time window to enter the thread and that seems to be the crux of your case on her.
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
I dunno, I think she knows she has to do it to seem role neutral but she checked off like every box this morning. Peek? Check. Flip out? Check. Zombie Jesus? Check.

I dunno, I don't like it.
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Originally Posted by HerbieGRD
I think this misses the point. I feel like what Hoya was saying is that she knows what's expected of her as a villager and he feels like she basically went down the checklist of what she's supposed to do as a villager. This is also a solid tell that was successfully used against me in the past.

Hoya correct me if I'm wrong about what you meant yo
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
Score one for Herbie.
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Originally Posted by Zayana
*laugh* someone else mentioned lists as a wolf... maybe systo? or dean? I was surprised that people actually did that. I mean maybe, I admit my villa guess on her is based on very little and probably not an accurate comparison besides. I wouldn't assume she was a wolf yet though based on so little. I can see how most of the posting in the thread is uber-villagery though which makes it hard to find the wolves. People that haven't posted yet are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rand to be wolves right now imo.
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Originally Posted by HerbieGRD
What I used to do as a wolf (and I guess still do to some extent, it's hard not to because it's so powerful) is make sure at the very beginning of each wolf game to do all the things that people normally cleared me for when I was a villager but actually had absolutely nothing to do with whether I was a villager or not. I think it was GT1T who finally caught me doing it.
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
Yeah see this makes sense to me.
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
OK, I get it.

But she clarified that nut wasn't her peek and actually didn't leave one. So that whittles the checklist down to zombie jesus + flip out, which basically go hand in hand and altogether really isn't much of a checklist.
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Originally Posted by Zayana
Why Zombie Jesus? or was that just for emphasis. FWIW, my opinion on HiFi probably shouldn't count for a whole lot if someone knows her better. I am going to keep her as villa lean for now though. Other than HDM, I haven't played with HiFi for a long time because I like playing with Mets cause I feel like I can read him and they don't play together.
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Originally Posted by HerbieGRD
This one I don't know

I mean I kinda cleared you in my head when you initially made the post because I think it's an awesome villagery thought process that I doubt a wolf would have, but I'm not sure exactly how it clears you to the rest of the thread if I'm a villager

Actually I don't think it's possible for me to clear you if I'm a villager

And yes, I made another read, w/e, apparently I can't help it
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
^ that's a peek bro
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
orly hoya?
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
I'm talking about in your brain - not for the rest of the thread - you cleared me after I made that post about HiFi. I think I know why. I want you to tell me the details about the blue.

I didn't mean to imply it had anything to do with clearing me to the rest of the thread.
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
I would say the second one can still be a peek but it's an interesting point.

It's especially interesting because it's pretty weird. Actually looks sorta like a mistake but I'm biased now.
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
Oh so you mean that she forgot she said that boj wasn't her peek and then left a fakepeek of him like 2 mins later?

Yeah that would be kinda weird.
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Originally Posted by Zayana
I've cleared or given villa leans to 8 people even if I take HiFi back out... just a couple more and the game is a lock. How many of the 8 are wolves is the question though?
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07-27-2011 , 03:15 PM
ok I'll link my last 10 wolf games and prove it
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07-27-2011 , 03:17 PM
Herbie the supine thing is different, that's an unbroken rule with him that I know is true from previous games. If he chose to break it to win a one-off slow game vanilla 17'r, I mean, interesting decision.
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07-27-2011 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by XXsooted
I can quote you my last 5 wolf games. Or 10 even. Doing this will be horrible for my future wolf games, but I seriously never bus.

My reason for doing this is that IMO villages never really give you THAT much credit for bussing (as you can see here I am a wolf candidate despite going after hifi early) so bussing just ends up hurting your team for no reason.
Who was the first person to vote me in Forsy's game? Though I was obv peeked so it's a little different than bussing for no reason.
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07-27-2011 , 03:18 PM
And we ended up turning it around and sweeping
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07-27-2011 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Anarchist
Wait, SHE? There are 2 girls ITT?

I didn't even know there were 2 girls in the entire internet!
I KNOW wolves do this, I just don't know if he'd think of it that quickly as a new wolf.
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07-27-2011 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
Herbie the supine thing is different, that's an unbroken rule with him that I know is true from previous games. If he chose to break it to win a one-off slow game vanilla 17'r, I mean, interesting decision.
It really almost doesn't matter

I have trouble seeing a scenario where I'm ever going to want to lynch Supine regardless of whether or not his "tell" is actually worth anything

But on principle I'm just not ok with letting someone choose a game that they're going to win as a wolf by breaking some kind of meaningless exploitable "streak" that has nothing at all to do with their actual role
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07-27-2011 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by HerbieGRD
It really almost doesn't matter

I have trouble seeing a scenario where I'm ever going to want to lynch Supine regardless of whether or not his "tell" is actually worth anything

But on principle I'm just not ok with letting someone choose a game that they're going to win as a wolf by breaking some kind of meaningless exploitable "streak" that has nothing at all to do with their actual role
Well then for what it's worth he agreed with my HiFi read, bolstered it, and voted her on day 1.
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07-27-2011 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Zayana
Who was the first person to vote me in Forsy's game? Though I was obv peeked so it's a little different than bussing for no reason.
lol I went into that day expecting it to be one of those boring obv lynch days.

And then you. didn't. get. lynched.

lol
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07-27-2011 , 03:27 PM
I have a lot to say about Anarchist eventually. We can start with potentially angleshot clearing himself, which was obvious and went unremarked upon out of discomfort, I suppose.
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