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07-26-2011 , 06:30 PM
that's just weird...
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07-26-2011 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by UAW710
vyk07

Obviously not majing hifi
do you guys get 1 mulligan tomorrow when Hifi flips wolf tonight?

After tomorrows lynch, does it have to be perfect-perfect-perfect?
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07-26-2011 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
Low contribution, emotion out of proportion to her "plight" at the very beginning of the day, which is usually just a tell if you're terrible but with her seems a more subtle tell because she knows she has to flip out about ZOMBIE JESUS and everything and ***** ***** because she's HiFi and that's what HiFi does.

I mean, she hit all her marks pretty fast before she took off for her new job (CONGRATS HIFI <3!!!!!!) and that's what bugs me.
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
Just to clarify, "low contribution" means low compared to her posts. She has 19. If I have 19 posts I definitely get some content in there.
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
CPHoya- would you feel better about HiFi being a villager if she only made 10 fluff posts before heading off to work? 5?

I mean she clearly only had a brief time window to enter the thread and that seems to be the crux of your case on her.
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
I dunno, I think she knows she has to do it to seem role neutral but she checked off like every box this morning. Peek? Check. Flip out? Check. Zombie Jesus? Check.

I dunno, I don't like it.
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Originally Posted by Zayana
I'm comparing her to Dark Materials, but I don't know that that's a fair comparison because she was godfather. Plus I had "additional information" to judge her on. In that game I knew Mets was villa, not literally knew it no peek or anything... but I knew it, I had him at <3% chance to be a wolf. And HiFi who I assumed should be able to read him better than I can, was calling him a wolf and pressuring him. We all know how mets gets when he's pressured, he goes defensive and stops trying to play the game. It was a really good play for her as a wolf, but I was also pretty sure she was a wolf because of it. Here I'm not sure what to think of her Supine exchange because I don't know Supine well. So, does she pressure him here as villa or wolf? He voted her first, so her vote and pressure is possibly role neutral.

I think this is standard for her, no offense meant to her, but she often reacts to things in ways far beyond what I'd expect.
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Originally Posted by HerbieGRD
I think this misses the point. I feel like what Hoya was saying is that she knows what's expected of her as a villager and he feels like she basically went down the checklist of what she's supposed to do as a villager. This is also a solid tell that was successfully used against me in the past.

Hoya correct me if I'm wrong about what you meant yo
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
Score one for Herbie.
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Originally Posted by Zayana
*laugh* someone else mentioned lists as a wolf... maybe systo? or dean? I was surprised that people actually did that. I mean maybe, I admit my villa guess on her is based on very little and probably not an accurate comparison besides. I wouldn't assume she was a wolf yet though based on so little. I can see how most of the posting in the thread is uber-villagery though which makes it hard to find the wolves. People that haven't posted yet are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rand to be wolves right now imo.
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
OK, I get it.

But she clarified that nut wasn't her peek and actually didn't leave one. So that whittles the checklist down to zombie jesus + flip out, which basically go hand in hand and altogether really isn't much of a checklist.
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Originally Posted by Zayana
Why Zombie Jesus? or was that just for emphasis. FWIW, my opinion on HiFi probably shouldn't count for a whole lot if someone knows her better. I am going to keep her as villa lean for now though. Other than HDM, I haven't played with HiFi for a long time because I like playing with Mets cause I feel like I can read him and they don't play together.
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
^ that's a peek bro
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
orly hoya?
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
I would say the second one can still be a peek but it's an interesting point.

It's especially interesting because it's pretty weird. Actually looks sorta like a mistake but I'm biased now.
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
Oh so you mean that she forgot she said that boj wasn't her peek and then left a fakepeek of him like 2 mins later?

Yeah that would be kinda weird.
That's basically the series, regarding the defense.
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07-26-2011 , 06:36 PM
I think I was randed villa like my first 15 or so ww games. I got lynched early, a lot. It was not fun.
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07-26-2011 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by vyk07
do you guys get 1 mulligan tomorrow when Hifi flips wolf tonight?

After tomorrows lynch, does it have to be perfect-perfect-perfect?
I think we have 3 mislynches, but I haven't done all the math. Maybe 2 and a no lynch. I will work it out in a day or two.

Hell, I'll do it now.

I think we have 12 left now, 8V 4W
Tomorrow 10 left, 7V 3W

So that means 1 mis is 5V to 3 W, 1 no lynch leaves 4V to 3W.

The differential stays the same if we lynch correctly on the way, so we have 1 mis lynch and 1 no lynch? That is actually pretty tight.
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07-26-2011 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
That's basically the series, regarding the defense.
That's hard defense? Because my experience with her in the past has been HiFi = brash...

For Hoya, I'm pretty sure if you read these, you'll be able to get into my head... I was trying to figure out what she was. People said her frustration felt forced and that's the reason she was getting heat. You had your checklist... I mean I get those thoughts, but I just didn't see it. I haven't really played with HiFi in months... and by months, probably 4-5... ever since she and mets started dating and stopped playing together. The only game was the HDM mishmash and I got to play that what a grand total of like 4 hrs... I did not rail that one afterwards, just the last day. After comparing a villa and wolf game she was obv wolf to me though. The last time I remember playing with HiFi as villa she completely flipped out on T1ghter... and was aggressive/brash and felt more like this game.

She wasn't the obvious wolf to me as she was to you, but that is not hard-defense. Hard defense would have been leave her alone, lay off her, whatever... I think Dean's wolf list was pretty close at this point.

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Originally Posted by Zayana
Alright, gonna start with a little HiFi analysis since everyone thinks she's wolfy, this is her entry, starting here.

justifiably annoyed and this doesn't feel forced to me

Dean and Supine are the two that had voted her... it's actually kinda villagery to automatically suspect the two voting her.

Some jokes and fluff

Hoya touched on this yesterday

Fluffy stuff

Her vote

fluff, well not really, someone told her not Supine and this is her response if I recall correctly, it's an image so trying remember here

fakepeek talk has been done, Hoya covered this

Can't remember who this is to, she is really defensive but in fairness she came in to two votes without posting. I'd probably be a little defensive too.


Kinda weird if she really thinks he's a wolf


at Supine


Don't recall who this was directed to


or this...

ok, she called Dean and Supine wolves, this is what they had posted at the time:








And Dean:






Self preservation so early on day 1 always makes me go "what?"








Talks about wolfy jokes


What I assume is a joke, but includes HiFi




Really?


Ok, so going through these, not making judgements about Dean or Supine's roles... but of these two, why does she go Supine over Dean? I'd have picked Dean between the two if I was limiting myself that way.

Ok, next batch...
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Originally Posted by J.D.
Ok, starting my re-read but no clue how far I will get. I also am going to assume its all been done before, but whatever.

For Page 1: HiFi not looking good, she combines "anger" and jokes in multiple post in a very short time span. IMO anger is fake.



So I caught this. In a previous game Herbie was a wolf with Dean, and cleared him on Page 1...



This is Herbies 5th post of zero content.

Villa lean: Herbie
Wolf Lean: HiFi

Want to clear nutjob for the million posts, but pretty easy to post that many times with noone to challenge you, no matter the role.
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Originally Posted by Zayana
Ok, so the next batch by HiFi...



















Ongoing game is over, I'm interested














I don't agree with this in terms of zero data points, but I can see why she's frustrated. I just don't know that I play with her enough to tell if it's fake or not, so I'm just going to stop at this point. I don't really see any wolf hunting on further skim of her remaining posts, there is a lot of joking and defensiveness. I can understand the defensiveness though. I'm still at nfi for her. I'd lean wolfy based on lack of villagery content. I was hoping to come out with she's w or v, but I could go either way. I don't see anything particularly villagery, no post that makes me say, she HAS to be a villa here. I'll do Dean, I think I can figure him out at least.
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Originally Posted by J.D.
Zaya, did you look at the timestamps between HiFi's "justifiably annoyed" posts, and her "joke and fluff" posts?
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Originally Posted by Zayana
Those groups were literally groups of HiFi in the thread... so the first group was all bang bang bang bang... the second groups was all bang bang bang bang... she flips back and forth within them. I can understand the frustration, but I think I see what you are saying... the frustration is interspersed with jokes therefore it's fake? Hold on, I think I have a good reference point for that. When Duck tilted me hardcore? I'll see if I let his pissing me off affect my interactions with everyone else. I remember someone telling me thought I was faking anger, when I was genuinely pissed (and a vilager). I know I'm not HiFi, but it'll help me get in her head maybe.
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Originally Posted by J.D.
FWIW: angry posts: 9:05/9:06/9:06
nutjob non-peek: 9:07
Joke posts: 9:07/9:08
Fluff Herbie/"tilt post": 9:09
Joke post: 9:10
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Originally Posted by Zayana
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=904 Here's the beginning of Duck "peeking" me wolf, I know it's more drastic then a couple of votes, but meh... I did try to not let it influence my interaction with others... a heart for mets a wink for YG, but I can tell I'm definitely more "touchy" than I normally am. I was touchy the rest of the game though, but that's cause I was wagoned every single day for the dumbest reason. And people kept saying I was not being pro-villa when I was doing everything I could for the village and solved the game at the end, to the point where wolves conceded.
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Originally Posted by Zayana
ok, I'm not really joking in those posts, I'm pretty frustrated and it's obvious on tone if you read them.

Oh and I found this funny on skimming, some of you will greatly appreciate this, it is completely not relevant to this game, but it is to the one I wolfed with Sun and Sooted:
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Originally Posted by Zayana
Dean why do you think HiFi picked Supine over you? Curious if there is meta I'm missing
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Originally Posted by Zayana
It's not all of them, just the first two batches, I stopped quoting when I realized it wasn't really helping me decide. She's always wolfy to me, no offense HiFi .
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Originally Posted by bojtun
That's where I'm asking for a little help, and I need to read this thread more and don't want to find a Hi-Fi wolf game and villager game to peruse.

Apparently she's been a wolf a lot lately, so is her tone similar or different? (I'm an ass sometimes. lol)
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Originally Posted by Zayana
don't want to? or want to?
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Originally Posted by Zayana
I can help with both if the answer is want to, though the villa game is not recent.
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Originally Posted by bojtun
don't want to because I need to focus on re-reading this thread. But if you have recent links to villa Hi-Fi and wolf Hi-Fi, I will make a quick speed read of a couple of pages of each just to see if I see any differences.

(haha I just can't ****ing help myself sometimes.)
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Originally Posted by bojtun
Not too concerned about it being really recent I guess.
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Originally Posted by Zayana
You sound like me :P I have nothing for recent villa hifi, I do have one where she tilted and went off on t1ghter and the self banned for a while. But that was a while ago and imo she's been much more composed since then. So I don't know that it will help too much. I'll dig though Wolf game is easy though, cause I was just going through miencraften
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Originally Posted by Zayana
HiFi wolf game
I'll look for villa...
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Originally Posted by Zayana
HiFi villager game

It's a vanilla+, she's a mason
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Originally Posted by Zayana
That's the most recent non-mishmash recent game I found
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Originally Posted by Zayana
If we can figure out if she's villa or wolf it could help eliminate a potential mislynch for the wolves. I know she gets heat a lot.
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Originally Posted by Zayana
She is way more jokey as a wolf it seems, at least quick compare of those two games. Might just be her mood on a given day...
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Originally Posted by Zayana
I hate to say this, but comparing the games I think she's a wolf here. Before someone asks, I hate to say it because it seems like she really just can't catch a break with the rand. I can't imagine how frustrating it would be to get randed wolf as often as she has recently.
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Originally Posted by Zayana
Her villa game feels villa. I know I used to think she always felt wolfy because her personality was more aggressive than I was used to. But really, skimming that no seer game it feels good.
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Originally Posted by bojtun
Nope was reading.

OK, only read a few pages of each, so small sample size:

In the meincraft (wolf) game she storms out of the gate aggro. She is interacting with read-related stuff and has a game-solving quality that is not as present here. But that's exhausting to do as a wolf and if she's a wolf yet again, maybe she's just tired of putting in the extra effort. But she is letting a whole bunch of people have it with stuff like this:









In the villager game, she is cool, calm, collected, insightful.









She is decidedly more like the wolf game in this game. AINEC
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Originally Posted by Zayana
Yeah, we came to the same conclusion. She also is very jokey in her wolf game, not so in her villa game.
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Originally Posted by bojtun
Well, we can't let run-bad at rand affect our decisions.

As for Sooted (aside from right nut sack making me laugh my ass off) I remember him being a really good villager and way more involved than this.
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Originally Posted by Zayana
I only have like another 30 minutes tonight, after that I have to crash.

Right now I have as villas
Anarchist
Supine
CPHoya
nut
Sun
Dean

and for wolf so far I have
HiFi

I'm disappointed that Vyk didn't post at all when I totally gave him all day to change my mind. I thought I was being extremely fair about it, laying off so he didn't have to be defensive. Hopefully he'll surprise me and villager it up between 2-4am or something.
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07-26-2011 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by vyk07
do you guys get 1 mulligan tomorrow when Hifi flips wolf tonight?

After tomorrows lynch, does it have to be perfect-perfect-perfect?
Ok I'm nitpicking here... more weirdness from Vyk... you guys... not we

This is the FOURTH I'm a wolf post from Vyk.
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07-26-2011 , 07:01 PM
There is 100% NO way he's villa... I'm pushing/voting him tomorrow... just for advanced notice... HiFi today, Vyk tomorrow.
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07-26-2011 , 07:01 PM
Night
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07-26-2011 , 07:02 PM
Final vote count, doubt that I need corrections.

[0] Anarchist voted for HiFi
[0] CPHoya voted for HiFi
[0] fnord_too voted for HiFi
[0] HerbieGRD
[5] HiFi
[0] J.D. voted for HiFi
[0] Sun Tzu
[0] Supine
[0] UAW710 voted for vyk07
[1] vyk07 voted for unvote
[0] XXsooted voted for HiFi
[0] Zayana
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07-26-2011 , 07:04 PM
HiFi has been lynched, she was



Emma Frost, a member of the Hellfire Club (wolf).

Night kill by 6am.
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07-27-2011 , 06:00 AM
Sun Tzu has been killed, he was



Dr. Hank McCoy aka Beast, a villager.

Player list:
  1. Anarchist
  2. CPHoya
  3. fnord_too
  4. HerbieGRD
  5. J.D.
  6. Supine
  7. UAW710
  8. vyk07
  9. XXsooted
  10. Zayana

It is day.
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07-27-2011 , 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by HiFi
This is sooooo good.

Ty hifi.
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07-27-2011 , 07:16 AM
So the NK. Obviously the peeks were either Sun and HiFi or the wolves want us to assume it was those two.

I am going with the assumption that they were the peeks.

Vyk, were you wolf or villager in that mason game? Who was your mason?

Does anyone know xxsooteds opinion on bussing?
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07-27-2011 , 07:19 AM
QFvotecount

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Originally Posted by derwipok
Final vote count

[0] Anarchist voted for TheDean1
[0] bojtun voted for HiFi
[0] CPHoya
[0] fnord_too voted for HiFi
[0] HerbieGRD
[5] HiFi voted for TheDean1
[0] J.D. voted for HiFi
[0] loosekanen voted for HiFi
[0] Sun Tzu voted for TheDean1
[0] Supine voted for TheDean1
[7] TheDean1 voted for unvote
[0] UAW710 voted for TheDean1
[0] vyk07 voted for TheDean1
[0] XXsooted voted for TheDean1
[0] Zayana voted for HiFi

10 minutes to PM me corrections.
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07-27-2011 , 07:24 AM
Did Fnord have a post somewhere where he called dean wolfy? For some reason I think he did. If so, I am going to clear him completely, because he still voted HiFi.

On my iPad and don't think I can search by poster.

Interesting that both supine and UAW voted dean. I have a thought that they probably aren't w/v.
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07-27-2011 , 09:27 AM
Alright fortunately this thread isn't so long that a full reread is overly difficult, so I'm going to do that either today or tonight

aorn I feel like HiFi coming up wolf means that Sooted is very very likely to be a wolf, but he's the only one I feel confident about right now.

The good news is that I think this game is probably solvable from here, I just need to make time to actually do it
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07-27-2011 , 09:38 AM
Also if it matters I'm starting from a guess of

XXSooted
Vyk
J.D.

being the wolves
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07-27-2011 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
wolf team is probably something like

CPHoya
HiFi
loosekanen
mikey obviously

that's my soulread of the player list.
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
Well I have a hard time differentiating between spastic wolf HiFi and spastic villager HiFi, but I feel inclined to say that this is the latter.

So the wagons are prob v/v so let's all CFD Herbie

gogogogogogo
Just FYI people, he didn't peeked HiFi N0... This was early day 1 Rereading for vyk and Sun stuff right now.
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07-27-2011 , 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDean1
they aren't totally independent.

if xxsooted is a wolf he doesn't really fit with either hifi or vyk because he was pushing both of them and i don't think he busses d1

anarchist had a couple of interactions with hifi/vyk that seemed kinda not ww but i wouldn't clear him for either or both of them flipping wolf.

fwiw fnord fits in with a lot of possible wolf teams right now
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Kind of wondering about this statement. I dismissed fnord because of him not being in both lists, but this is the very next post.
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07-27-2011 , 11:00 AM
ok, seriously going to reread Vyk now. I need to get Dean out of my head for a while.
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07-27-2011 , 11:03 AM
I like the new avatar Zaya

And this one doesn't look to be in imminent danger of starvation either, so that's good
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07-27-2011 , 11:10 AM
TY I found the other with a quick search of drawing of tonks or something... this one I just searched tonks and waded through the pics. I like it a LOT better!
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07-27-2011 , 11:38 AM
lol
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07-27-2011 , 11:40 AM
No comments at all on Vyk's "you guys" last night?
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